Official Trade Thread - Part XXXII

[Illmatic12]

We don't know if Mahinmi will even play this season. As of now it doesn't sound good

[deneem4]

I wouldn't trade beal atleast to after these playoffs...

I think guys are forgetting playoff beal...
The season before the last playoffs he was a tier 4 player he became a bordelime tier 2 player almost putting up 25/5/5 against good defense...

This season he's playing like a tier 3 guy...if he locks in during these playoffs....I can see him being a borderline tier 1 player....

These playoffs will evaluate our core going forward but we shouldn't make any moves until then

[Ruzious]

We do need rim protection pretty bad and Gortat has played an incredible amount of minutes this season, so sanders is a pretty good fit in that regard.

That'd make sense if basketball was a platoon sport. For everything he did well on defense, he did at least as poorly on offense.

Good thing we have a point guard named John Wall who got JaVale McGee to average 12 points per game. Signing Larry Sanders would be this year's Drew Gooden. A very Grunfeld move.

Javale McGee was a disaster here. He should never be used as the poster boy reason to acquire someone.

[J-Ves]

We do need rim protection pretty bad and Gortat has played an incredible amount of minutes this season, so sanders is a pretty good fit in that regard.

That'd make sense if basketball was a platoon sport. For everything he did well on defense, he did at least as poorly on offense.

If I knew Mahinmi was coming back I wouldn't even consider signing Sanders. Instead I would be looking to upgrade the backup guard situation, but as of right now I don't know or think Mahinmi will be back this year so Sanders fits a large need.

The Wizards have preformed as a top 10 offense this season and over the past 10 games or so have been an elite offense. What this team needs is defense, specifically interior defense which Sanders might be able to provide.

[NatP4]

But he's also a moron with questionable character that gets called for a technical every other play lol

You get a focused Larry sanders, that makes this team dangerous. It's like adding whiteside, dude averaged 12 rebounds and 4 blocks per 36 in his good season. Do we have the type of culture built now that can handle a guy like that? Idk

[Ruzious]

Larry sanders was one of my favorite players at the time he was good, but this just sounds like a bad idea, especially if Mahinmi is about to return. We have good chemistry right now, we're playing hard, team is coming together, I probably don't do it.

The Sanders, Henson, Giannis front court was going to be the longest and best defensive front court... ever.

But if Sanders stayed there, I doubt the Greek Freak would have developed. And if Henson hadn't been around Sanders so long, maybe he wouldn't have the questionable work ethic that we've seen from him year after year.

[Illmatic12]

But he's also a moron with questionable character that gets called for a technical every other play lol

You get a focused Larry sanders, that makes this team dangerous. It's like adding whiteside, dude averaged 12 rebounds and 4 blocks per 36 in his good season. Do we have the type of culture built now that can handle a guy like that? Idk

What is wrong with the culture? Since drafting Wall, the team chemistry now is the best it's ever been imo

[NatP4]

But he's also a moron with questionable character that gets called for a technical every other play lol

You get a focused Larry sanders, that makes this team dangerous. It's like adding whiteside, dude averaged 12 rebounds and 4 blocks per 36 in his good season. Do we have the type of culture built now that can handle a guy like that? Idk

What is wrong with the culture? Since drafting Wall, the team chemistry now is the best it's ever been imo

That's exactly what I'm saying, but is it at the point where we can start bringing in guys like this? The misconception is that Keef was one of those guys, which he is not, Keef is an unselfish team first guy. Larry sanders .... littl different

[NatP4]

But hey, signing a focused Larry Sanders and then moving Mahinmi's contract plus our 1st round pick for a backcourt player, could be a home run. Never know

[Illmatic12]

But he's also a moron with questionable character that gets called for a technical every other play lol

You get a focused Larry sanders, that makes this team dangerous. It's like adding whiteside, dude averaged 12 rebounds and 4 blocks per 36 in his good season. Do we have the type of culture built now that can handle a guy like that? Idk

What is wrong with the culture? Since drafting Wall, the team chemistry now is the best it's ever been imo

That's exactly what I'm saying, but is it at the point where we can start bringing in guys like this? The misconception is that Keef was one of those guys, which he is not, Keef is an unselfish team first guy. Larry sanders .... littl different

From what I know of Sanders, I don't believe he's the character that he was maligned to be . Obviously he hasn't been the best desicion maker in his life, but he was dealing with a depression/anxiety disorder which is something that a lot of people find difficult to understand, and I think that gets overlooked.

[gambitx777]

You've pointed out that we'd never be able to deal Mahinmi now (& who knows when?).

PIF let me ask you a question bro.
I mentioned a Mello tade a few pages back.
Mahinmi, nicholson, and burke, 3 unprotected firsts and 2 seconds for mello.
That's 5 picks. yes I know. But Adding mello and no talent net loss, since mahinmi has not played and nicholson and burke are basically net negatives or neutrals. Is a pure 100 percent gain talent wise, if mello buys in to the john wall style of play and we can keep his minutes down by playing morris off the bench, while dumping Mahinmi and Nicholson, and still having the ability to max Otto. is that worth it? Thats a huge gain and addition by subtraction? Because with nicholson and mahinmi basically being what mellos contract it and the cap going up a little more, we will be in the same cap situation with a much better team.

[NatP4]

We really need to start a list of off the bench guards out there that would be worth our first round pick. Maybe Ernie reads realgm.

[gambitx777]

We really need to start a list of off the bench guards out there that would be worth our first round pick. Maybe Ernie reads realgm.

We should not give up a first for a bench guard, unless it involves a team taking Mahinmi. or a team taking Nicholson and getting 2 solid bench players in return.

[stevemcqueen1]

No thanks on that trade for Melo. The Clippers are going to end up with him for far less. Melo is going to get traded for a ham sandwich.

[NatP4]

We really need to start a list of off the bench guards out there that would be worth our first round pick. Maybe Ernie reads realgm.

We should not give up a first for a bench guard, unless it involves a team taking Mahinmi. or a team taking Nicholson and getting 2 solid bench players in return.

Yes that's what I meant.

[gambitx777]

I'm just saying an over pay for Mello, if he wants to be here and buys in to the john wall style of play and what his role would then be. all for Mahinmi, Nicholson, and Burke, removing those mistakes and adding Mello would make us legit finals contenders. So it would be worth the picks right ?

[gambitx777]

We really need to start a list of off the bench guards out there that would be worth our first round pick. Maybe Ernie reads realgm.

We should not give up a first for a bench guard, unless it involves a team taking Mahinmi. or a team taking Nicholson and getting 2 solid bench players in return.

Yes that's what I meant.

but not what you said. Its just say what you mean next time. No worries.

[Dat2U]

You've pointed out that we'd never be able to deal Mahinmi now (& who knows when?).

PIF let me ask you a question bro.
I mentioned a Mello tade a few pages back.
Mahinmi, nicholson, and burke, 3 unprotected firsts and 2 seconds for mello.
That's 5 picks. yes I know. But Adding mello and no talent net loss, since mahinmi has not played and nicholson and burke are basically net negatives or neutrals. Is a pure 100 percent gain talent wise, if mello buys in to the john wall style of play and we can keep his minutes down by playing morris off the bench, while dumping Mahinmi and Nicholson, and still having the ability to max Otto. is that worth it? Thats a huge gain and addition by subtraction? Because with nicholson and mahinmi basically being what mellos contract it and the cap going up a little more, we will be in the same cap situation with a much better team.

Wow your really treating draft picks like candy on Halloween.

No, just no. You can't mortgage the future like that. That's 3 1st rounders over the next 5 years. There's no way to predict what will happen in 2019 or 2021. Those unprotected picks your giving up may be very high picks. There's a good chance we'd become what the Nets are today.

We are simply stuck with Mahinmi until he gets healthy and proves himself, unless he decides to retire. Teams don't typically trade for guys who can't pass a physical with $56 million left on their deal. You would be hard pressed to find one example of where this has happened before.

[NatP4]

We should not give up a first for a bench guard, unless it involves a team taking Mahinmi. or a team taking Nicholson and getting 2 solid bench players in return.

Yes that's what I meant.

but not what you said. Its just say what you mean next time. No worries.

You do realize that there are plenty of bench guards that are worth a 1st round pick right?

[gambitx777]

You've pointed out that we'd never be able to deal Mahinmi now (& who knows when?).

PIF let me ask you a question bro.
I mentioned a Mello tade a few pages back.
Mahinmi, nicholson, and burke, 3 unprotected firsts and 2 seconds for mello.
That's 5 picks. yes I know. But Adding mello and no talent net loss, since mahinmi has not played and nicholson and burke are basically net negatives or neutrals. Is a pure 100 percent gain talent wise, if mello buys in to the john wall style of play and we can keep his minutes down by playing morris off the bench, while dumping Mahinmi and Nicholson, and still having the ability to max Otto. is that worth it? Thats a huge gain and addition by subtraction? Because with nicholson and mahinmi basically being what mellos contract it and the cap going up a little more, we will be in the same cap situation with a much better team.

Wow your really treating draft picks like candy on Halloween.

No, just no. You can't mortgage the future like that. That's 3 1st rounders over the next 5 years. There's no way to predict what will happen in 2019 or 2021. Those unprotected picks your giving up may be very high picks. There's a good chance we'd become what the Nets are today.

We are simply stuck with Mahinmi until he gets healthy and proves himself, unless he decides to retire. Teams don't typically trade for guys who can't pass a physical with $56 million left on their deal. You would be hard pressed to find one example of where this has happened before.

For 5 draft picks. they might. They can waive the physical (I think). I get it Obviously you offer two firsts and 2 seconds first, but im just saying. You have a realistic show at a ring, this year and for the next 2-4 years if you do that. I get you don't want to make a bad move, But you're not doing what the nets did. they did all that pick swapping **** too which, ruined their picks on the years they did have them.I get it, but if there is blood in the water, and a ring is up for grabs, Take it. You are not wrong in anyway, but if we did it, and things did go to **** 5 years later. but we one a ring this year or next, is it not worth it?