prime1time wrote:...But the reality is there's no evidence of anything (
i.e. about Deni as an NBA player. Preseason starts December 10th with the season starting December 22nd. His game will speak for itself. One way or another.
But I must say I watched over 2 hours of tape and I disagree with many of your conclusions. Maybe you should include actual youtube clips with time stamps to support your conlcusions. His lateral quickness is actually pretty solid and most scouts projected him as a solid defender. Not to mention he is great with rotations.
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At 29:20 the scout Mike Schmitz literally says he's impressed with his defense. I find it fascinating that your whole post is bent on attacking him. You find me how many wings in this draft that showed anywhere near the awareness that Deni did defensively. He's light years ahead of Rui defensively. But because you don't like the player all we get is paragraph after paragraph of his supposed flaws.
You talk about his FT % and it is a concern, but you leave out the fact that he shot 33% from 3 on 183 shots. How many players have completely broken jumpers at put up those kinds of numbers? More so, those numbers don't even do him justice because since then he has actually worked on his game. He tweaked his jumper before his league restarted in the summer and he's tweaking his jumper again now. The video above talks about his jumper, but tbh, it is so outdated. Since his league ended, he has become much more lean and in cut working at P3 in Atlanta. So again, even if you were right about his lack of lateral speed (which I question), we would have to point out that he's in a completely different shape.
Ultimately the problem with your post is this. If a guy had no flaws he wouldn't have fallen to us....
He wouldn't be human!

This is all on the money, prime. This stuff, however,...
Which means what...? I saw mocks that had Rui in late R1 > early R2. There were plenty of people who rated Clarke higher than Rui. For good reason, since he was obviously the better player at Gonzaga -- by a lot not a little.
prime1time wrote:...1 year in it's not clear that Clarke is "clearly the better player."
Yes, there is still time for Clarke to become horrible & for Rui to become an average or better NBA player. Doesn't mean either one will happen.
But, here's what is clear -- utterly clear: Brandon Clarke was better than Rui as an NBA rookie. Far better. & he was better at Gonzaga too.
Not to mention that, if Rui had put up Clarke's numbers as a rookie, & Clarke had put up Rui's numbers, you wouldn't be saying what you just did. You'd be crowing through the roof about how great Rui is -- & certainly about how obviously way much better than Clarke he was.

Don't deny it!
prime1time wrote:...As Rui continues to improve his game, I look forward to the incessant posts on this board reminding us of just how bad he is...
Have their been incessant posts so far about how
bad Rui is? Can you point to a few of them? Or do you mean posts pointing to things he hasn't done well? Is that it?
prime1time wrote:...And if I had to guess unless Advija ends up becoming Doncic it'll be the same incessant denigrating posts about him also...
Actually, many of us who didn't like the pick of Rui Hachimura (which is, of course, different from not liking
him -- it'd be hard not to like Rui!) do like the pick of Deni Avdija.
prime1time wrote:...for posters who are interested in actually breaking down Deni's game and having a genuine conversation about his strengths, weaknesses, and future potential in the near future I'll be posting breakdowns of his game film.
Do you mean you'll do that instead of just criticizing people who disagree with you for reasons that you make up? That would be great! Look forward to that.