2025 Draft Thread - Part 3

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If I were picking today, w/o trades, it'd be:

6 - Khaman Maluach
18 - Cedric Coward if he's there, but he's probably gone in which case it'd be Collin Murray-Boyles
40 - Johni Broome if he's there, otherwise Kam Jones
Undrafted - Mark Sears

But, I'd prefer to trade all our picks to the Nets for all their picks. In that case...

8. Maluach if he's there, but he won't be. So, make it one of Noa Essengue or Carter Bryant.
26. Jase Richardson or Drake Powell (the latter is kind of a developmental project, but very talented with great athleticism, so a good fit for Will....?)
27. Maxime Raynaud -- assuming that none of Sorber, Newell or Wolf are still on the board. Otherwise one of them -- in the listed order of preference.
36. Johni Broome or Rocco Zikarsky
Undrafted - Mark Sears

[tontoz]

The Philadlephia 76ers are believed to be zeroing in on VJ Edgecombe with the No. 3 overall pick. Edgecombe visited the Sixers last week.

"Edgecombe is said to have impressed with his work ethic, personality and interviews," writes Jake Fischer.

Tyrese Maxey also flew in to meet with Edgecombe. The Sixers are bullish on how Edgecombe could help offset Maxey on the defensive end of the floor, while the Baylor product also has upside on offense.

Edgecombe has yet to meet with any other teams and there's been some speculation that he might not conduct any additional ones. The Charlotte Hornets could select Edgecombe at No. 4 if he's not selected by the Sixers.

Additionally, league executives believe the Washington Wizards have interest in trading up for Edgecombe. The Wizards own the No. 6 and No. 18 selections in the first round.

"They’re keeping the pick or they’re trading down a few slots," said one Eastern Conference executive.

[nate33]

I'm high as hell on Coward. I feel like his measurements fit what Dawkins is looking for, his production went up at every level, and I get the sense because he's such an unknown, Dawkins will more than happily take him and bank on the unknown upside. I would take him at 6 at this point. I could see the Thunder drafting him.

No way they take Coward at 6. He’s almost 22, and his production was moderate in college. At his age, you wonder if theres going to be that much improvement in his game.

One thing worth noting about Coward is that he basically put up the exact same stats last year. Yes, he is going to be 21.77 years old on Draft Day, which is old, but he entered the draft last year with the same basic resume, and was mocked in the second round despite having basically the exact same draft profile.

He then re-enrolled in college but got hurt after just 6 games.

The optimistic take is that if you like him now at age 21.77, you should have liked him last year at age 20.77. Only now if you draft him, he is one year further along in development and physical maturity, and is likely to be a more impactful player for most of his rookie contract.

[NatP4]

The Philadlephia 76ers are believed to be zeroing in on VJ Edgecombe with the No. 3 overall pick. Edgecombe visited the Sixers last week.

"Edgecombe is said to have impressed with his work ethic, personality and interviews," writes Jake Fischer.

Tyrese Maxey also flew in to meet with Edgecombe. The Sixers are bullish on how Edgecombe could help offset Maxey on the defensive end of the floor, while the Baylor product also has upside on offense.

Edgecombe has yet to meet with any other teams and there's been some speculation that he might not conduct any additional ones. The Charlotte Hornets could select Edgecombe at No. 4 if he's not selected by the Sixers.

Additionally, league executives believe the Washington Wizards have interest in trading up for Edgecombe. The Wizards own the No. 6 and No. 18 selections in the first round.

"They’re keeping the pick or they’re trading down a few slots," said one Eastern Conference executive.

Sounds like we might be striking out. Philly is trying to move up for Harper, interest in Edgecombe seems legit if they are unable to move up.

Dallas: Flagg
Philly: Harper
SA: Bailey
Charlotte: Edgecombe/Kneuppel
Utah: Tre Johnson
Washington: ???

[AFM]

The Philadlephia 76ers are believed to be zeroing in on VJ Edgecombe with the No. 3 overall pick. Edgecombe visited the Sixers last week.

"Edgecombe is said to have impressed with his work ethic, personality and interviews," writes Jake Fischer.

Tyrese Maxey also flew in to meet with Edgecombe. The Sixers are bullish on how Edgecombe could help offset Maxey on the defensive end of the floor, while the Baylor product also has upside on offense.

Edgecombe has yet to meet with any other teams and there's been some speculation that he might not conduct any additional ones. The Charlotte Hornets could select Edgecombe at No. 4 if he's not selected by the Sixers.

Additionally, league executives believe the Washington Wizards have interest in trading up for Edgecombe. The Wizards own the No. 6 and No. 18 selections in the first round.

"They’re keeping the pick or they’re trading down a few slots," said one Eastern Conference executive.

Sounds like we might be striking out. Philly is trying to move up for Harper, interest in Edgecombe seems legit if they are unable to move up.

Dallas: Flagg
Philly: Harper
SA: Bailey
Charlotte: Edgecombe/Kneuppel
Utah: Tre Johnson
Washington: ???

It's probably Maluach then, no? I would be okay with anyone mocked to us tbh outside of Kneuppel.

[nate33]

The Philadlephia 76ers are believed to be zeroing in on VJ Edgecombe with the No. 3 overall pick. Edgecombe visited the Sixers last week.

"Edgecombe is said to have impressed with his work ethic, personality and interviews," writes Jake Fischer.

Tyrese Maxey also flew in to meet with Edgecombe. The Sixers are bullish on how Edgecombe could help offset Maxey on the defensive end of the floor, while the Baylor product also has upside on offense.

Edgecombe has yet to meet with any other teams and there's been some speculation that he might not conduct any additional ones. The Charlotte Hornets could select Edgecombe at No. 4 if he's not selected by the Sixers.

Additionally, league executives believe the Washington Wizards have interest in trading up for Edgecombe. The Wizards own the No. 6 and No. 18 selections in the first round.

"They’re keeping the pick or they’re trading down a few slots," said one Eastern Conference executive.

Sounds like we might be striking out. Philly is trying to move up for Harper, interest in Edgecombe seems legit if they are unable to move up.

Dallas: Flagg
Philly: Harper
SA: Bailey
Charlotte: Edgecombe/Kneuppel
Utah: Tre Johnson
Washington: ???

I'm not sure this means we are striking out. It might simply mean that Philly is trying to convince us to up our offer.

I really don't see Philly's rationale to go so hard for Harper. They already have a lead ball handler in Maxey. They should be content to just land Edgecomb or Bailey or Johnson at #3.

I think the real issue here is that San Antonio doesn't really want Harper and would rather extract as much value as they can from the pick while moving down just a little to grab either Bailey or Johnson.

[NatP4]

I'm not sure this means we are striking out. It might simply mean that Philly is trying to convince us to up our offer.

I really don't see Philly's rationale to go so hard for Harper. They already have a lead ball handler in Maxey. They should be content to just land Edgecomb or Bailey or Johnson at #3.

I think the real issue here is that San Antonio doesn't really want Harper and would rather extract as much value as they can from the pick while moving down just a little to grab either Bailey or Johnson.

Agreed, but no way Philly makes a deal to move down if they know Harper will be there at 3.

Seems like Charlotte/Utah/Washington might be better trade parters for SA actually. Could be the reason why Philly has legit interest in Edgecombe at 3.

The bar is probably 3+McCain. Our problem is that at 6, it's far from a guarantee that either Bailey or Johnson will still be on the board.

[Gig18]

The Philadlephia 76ers are believed to be zeroing in on VJ Edgecombe with the No. 3 overall pick. Edgecombe visited the Sixers last week.

"Edgecombe is said to have impressed with his work ethic, personality and interviews," writes Jake Fischer.

Tyrese Maxey also flew in to meet with Edgecombe. The Sixers are bullish on how Edgecombe could help offset Maxey on the defensive end of the floor, while the Baylor product also has upside on offense.

Edgecombe has yet to meet with any other teams and there's been some speculation that he might not conduct any additional ones. The Charlotte Hornets could select Edgecombe at No. 4 if he's not selected by the Sixers.

Additionally, league executives believe the Washington Wizards have interest in trading up for Edgecombe. The Wizards own the No. 6 and No. 18 selections in the first round.

"They’re keeping the pick or they’re trading down a few slots," said one Eastern Conference executive.

Sounds like we might be striking out. Philly is trying to move up for Harper, interest in Edgecombe seems legit if they are unable to move up.

Dallas: Flagg
Philly: Harper
SA: Bailey
Charlotte: Edgecombe/Kneuppel
Utah: Tre Johnson
Washington: ???

I dunno. To me it sounds like there's still a pretty good player there for us at 6. I think I'd lean toward Maluach or Fears, but I wouldn't be all that upset with Knueppel. We need scoring, we need outside shooting. And it's always good to have high Basketball IQ...

[Kanyewest]

DeMarcus suffered a devastating injury during his best season on his best team

And the team finished out the season with a better record without Cousins than they had with him.

The Pelicans also traded for Mirotic after Cousins got hurt. Mirotic was playing out of his mind but ultimately it wasn't sustainable the following season.

[dobrojim]

Really hadn't been paying attention to how close we're
getting to having things more substantial than rumors
to talk about although we're sure to get the usual talk
based on rumors that didn't happen.

[Rafael122]

I tried to make sense of what's what with our picks over the next 2 seasons.

2025 - 6th, 18th

2026 - we have a Phoenix swap, protected 9-30.

Our pick is top 8 protected. Let's say Phoenix finishes 5th in the lottery and we finish 8. We can swap with Phoenix, and all we would owe the Knicks are two second round picks. So if you're cheering for something, its for us to be bad enough to land in the top 8 lottery wise but also pray Phoenix stinks too.

We also have this convoluted 4 team rights/swap. OKC has 3 first round picks in 2026: their own, Houston (top 4 protected), and the unprotected Clippers pick. OKC has the rights to the two most favorable. For the sake of this exercise, let's say the 2 most favorable picks are the Clippers pick and Houston, Washington receives the least favorable, which in this case would be the OKC pick.

Long story short, we're guaranteed at least 1 FRP in 2026, which means Dawkins has 3 first round picks at his disposal to make a move. There really does appear to be smoke on the Harper situation. Kevin O'Connor from Yahoo had an article where after reading it, it doesn't make sense to have Harper, Castle and Fox all on the same roster.

Would the Spurs take 6, 18, and the OKC first for #2? I wouldn't throw a player in this situation.

[Hibachi_0]

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[SUPERBALLMAN]

Don't know of anyone put this up yet, its Matt Moderno and our old pal Kevin...

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Draft 2 weeks away! I've totally burned myself out... After watching an unusually large amount of college games this season to see all the prospects and so CD the end of the season just an endless amount of videos and highlights and scouting reports and mock drafts and big boards and podcasts and discussion and articles and opinions and debates and more videos and videos about videos and mocks and reactions to mocks, I think my brain is full. Its reached max capacity of draft information.

[PaulinVA]

The Athletic's (Sam Vecenie's) latest mock:

4. PROJECTED TRADE: WASHINGTON WIZARDS
Ace Bailey | 6-8 wing/forward | 18 years old | Rutgers
(Wizards trade No. 6 and No. 18 to Sixers for No. 4 and Eric Gordon)
Again, I project the Sixers trade down. Why would the Wizards jump the Utah Jazz for No. 4? It’s hard to figure out what the Jazz will do at No. 5. With a new key decision-maker in Austin Ainge, league sources want to see how he operates after nearly 15 years in the Boston Celtics’ front office. So if Washington wants a certain player, it will probably need to jump Utah (and any other team that would be talking trade with Philadelphia in this instance). The price point here is No. 18 and taking the Gordon deal into the trade exception that the Wizards created in the Johnny Davis deal at the deadline. It’s not small, but it’s a worthwhile move if they love someone, and the Wizards have several young players on rookie-scale deals on the roster already in Alex Sarr, Bub Carrington, Bilal Coulibaly, AJ Johnson and Kyshawn George.

Evaluations from scouts on Bailey remain wide, but no one doubts his athleticism and tools as a shot-maker. The ceiling for Bailey is that he can be the second-best player in the class if all breaks right. His pull-up game is highly impressive for a player his age, and he’s a good catch-and-shoot 3-point shooter already, even if it’s not his natural inclination. I like several of those Wizards players listed above, but only Carrington and potentially Johnson project as shot creators. Bailey would give them something on the wing that they don’t have, as much as I love Coulibaly’s game.

Bailey will be a project. He averaged 17.6 points and seven rebounds while shooting 46 percent from the field and 34 percent from 3. But his style of play did not seem conducive to winning basketball. He settles for a lot of long jumpers because he struggles to get to the rim (he has a high handle and high center of gravity that gets knocked off its line too easily). Defensively, he wasn’t always engaged in help situations unless he saw an opportunity to go get the basketball.

But Rutgers was a catastrophe when Bailey wasn’t on the court. Even in Big Ten play, the Scarlet Knights lost Bailey’s minutes by only three points per 100 possessions. When he was off the court, they lost those minutes by 23 points per 100, per CBB Analytics. Bailey is enormous, he’s long, he is a real shooter, and he showed some defensive moments that were very positive in switch situations.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6411513/2025/06/12/nba-mock-draft-2025-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper-vj-edgecombe/?campaign=13860870&source=athletic_targeted_email&userId=7030725

[9 and 20]

6 plus Middleton and Kispert for Paul George and 3. They get off PG and get a decent rotation guy and a good locker room guy (and an actual good player when healthy). Can quibble about Eric Gordon into the exception.

18 included is too much though.

[penbeast0]

The Athletic's (Sam Vecenie's) latest mock:

4. PROJECTED TRADE: WASHINGTON WIZARDS
Ace Bailey | 6-8 wing/forward | 18 years old | Rutgers
(Wizards trade No. 6 and No. 18 to Sixers for No. 4 and Eric Gordon)
Again, I project the Sixers trade down. Why would the Wizards jump the Utah Jazz for No. 4? It’s hard to figure out what the Jazz will do at No. 5. With a new key decision-maker in Austin Ainge, league sources want to see how he operates after nearly 15 years in the Boston Celtics’ front office. So if Washington wants a certain player, it will probably need to jump Utah (and any other team that would be talking trade with Philadelphia in this instance). The price point here is No. 18 and taking the Gordon deal into the trade exception that the Wizards created in the Johnny Davis deal at the deadline. It’s not small, but it’s a worthwhile move if they love someone, and the Wizards have several young players on rookie-scale deals on the roster already in Alex Sarr, Bub Carrington, Bilal Coulibaly, AJ Johnson and Kyshawn George.

Evaluations from scouts on Bailey remain wide, but no one doubts his athleticism and tools as a shot-maker. The ceiling for Bailey is that he can be the second-best player in the class if all breaks right. His pull-up game is highly impressive for a player his age, and he’s a good catch-and-shoot 3-point shooter already, even if it’s not his natural inclination. I like several of those Wizards players listed above, but only Carrington and potentially Johnson project as shot creators. Bailey would give them something on the wing that they don’t have, as much as I love Coulibaly’s game.

Bailey will be a project. He averaged 17.6 points and seven rebounds while shooting 46 percent from the field and 34 percent from 3. But his style of play did not seem conducive to winning basketball. He settles for a lot of long jumpers because he struggles to get to the rim (he has a high handle and high center of gravity that gets knocked off its line too easily). Defensively, he wasn’t always engaged in help situations unless he saw an opportunity to go get the basketball.

But Rutgers was a catastrophe when Bailey wasn’t on the court. Even in Big Ten play, the Scarlet Knights lost Bailey’s minutes by only three points per 100 possessions. When he was off the court, they lost those minutes by 23 points per 100, per CBB Analytics. Bailey is enormous, he’s long, he is a real shooter, and he showed some defensive moments that were very positive in switch situations.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6411513/2025/06/12/nba-mock-draft-2025-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper-vj-edgecombe/?campaign=13860870&source=athletic_targeted_email&userId=7030725

Just a detail, Philly is picking 3 rather than 4. (Charlotte, Utah, Wiz)

[AFM]

The Athletic's (Sam Vecenie's) latest mock:

4. PROJECTED TRADE: WASHINGTON WIZARDS
Ace Bailey | 6-8 wing/forward | 18 years old | Rutgers
(Wizards trade No. 6 and No. 18 to Sixers for No. 4 and Eric Gordon)
Again, I project the Sixers trade down. Why would the Wizards jump the Utah Jazz for No. 4? It’s hard to figure out what the Jazz will do at No. 5. With a new key decision-maker in Austin Ainge, league sources want to see how he operates after nearly 15 years in the Boston Celtics’ front office. So if Washington wants a certain player, it will probably need to jump Utah (and any other team that would be talking trade with Philadelphia in this instance). The price point here is No. 18 and taking the Gordon deal into the trade exception that the Wizards created in the Johnny Davis deal at the deadline. It’s not small, but it’s a worthwhile move if they love someone, and the Wizards have several young players on rookie-scale deals on the roster already in Alex Sarr, Bub Carrington, Bilal Coulibaly, AJ Johnson and Kyshawn George.

Evaluations from scouts on Bailey remain wide, but no one doubts his athleticism and tools as a shot-maker. The ceiling for Bailey is that he can be the second-best player in the class if all breaks right. His pull-up game is highly impressive for a player his age, and he’s a good catch-and-shoot 3-point shooter already, even if it’s not his natural inclination. I like several of those Wizards players listed above, but only Carrington and potentially Johnson project as shot creators. Bailey would give them something on the wing that they don’t have, as much as I love Coulibaly’s game.

Bailey will be a project. He averaged 17.6 points and seven rebounds while shooting 46 percent from the field and 34 percent from 3. But his style of play did not seem conducive to winning basketball. He settles for a lot of long jumpers because he struggles to get to the rim (he has a high handle and high center of gravity that gets knocked off its line too easily). Defensively, he wasn’t always engaged in help situations unless he saw an opportunity to go get the basketball.

But Rutgers was a catastrophe when Bailey wasn’t on the court. Even in Big Ten play, the Scarlet Knights lost Bailey’s minutes by only three points per 100 possessions. When he was off the court, they lost those minutes by 23 points per 100, per CBB Analytics. Bailey is enormous, he’s long, he is a real shooter, and he showed some defensive moments that were very positive in switch situations.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6411513/2025/06/12/nba-mock-draft-2025-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper-vj-edgecombe/?campaign=13860870&source=athletic_targeted_email&userId=7030725

Just a detail, Philly is picking 3 rather than 4. (Charlotte, Utah, Wiz)

They have this trade at 3:

3. PROJECTED TRADE: Charlotte Hornets
VJ Edgecombe | 6-4 guard | 19 years old | Baylor
(Hornets trade No. 4 and No. 32 to Philadelphia 76ers for No. 3 and Andre Drummond)
No deal is close, and I’m sure the Sixers will continue to field offers until they get exactly what they want. But the most logical move is to trade down. At No. 3, the Sixers are atop a talent tier led by Edgecombe, Tre Johnson, Kon Knueppel and Ace Bailey. Some evaluators around the league would also throw Khaman Maluach and Jeremiah Fears into this group, and others would place prospects like Edgecombe and Bailey ahead and into their own mini-tier. For the Sixers, none of these prospects makes perfect sense.

With a couple of early second-round picks and salary flexibility to help the Sixers, the Hornets have the assets to jump one spot. Edgecombe makes the most sense with Charlotte’s team build in between LaMelo Ball and Brandon Miller in the backcourt. He’s tough and competitive, cares about winning and has been highly impressive in the pre-draft process. The Hornets need a better defensive infrastructure surrounding their franchise centerpieces, and Edgecombe is a terrific defensive player with elite athleticism. He’d be a running mate in transition for Ball early in his career while taking on the toughest perimeter defensive assignments. He also has a lot of potential offensively because of his special athleticism, mixed with his ability to hit catch-and-shoot jumpers. But he needs to continue working on his ball skills, particularly with his left hand and the tightness of his handle. Still, he averaged 15 points, nearly six rebounds and three assists as a freshman and has a long track record of knocking down shots off the catch.

If the Hornets think he’s the guy, paying one of your two second-round selections while taking on Drummond’s $5 million this year is worth trading up. The Sixers get financial flexibility by taking the Drummond deal off their books and would have an additional asset at the top of the second round. Maybe they could move into the latter portion of the first round? Sell it for future picks? They’d have options.

[PaulinVA]

The Athletic's (Sam Vecenie's) latest mock:

4. PROJECTED TRADE: WASHINGTON WIZARDS
Ace Bailey | 6-8 wing/forward | 18 years old | Rutgers
(Wizards trade No. 6 and No. 18 to Sixers for No. 4 and Eric Gordon)
Again, I project the Sixers trade down. Why would the Wizards jump the Utah Jazz for No. 4? It’s hard to figure out what the Jazz will do at No. 5. With a new key decision-maker in Austin Ainge, league sources want to see how he operates after nearly 15 years in the Boston Celtics’ front office. So if Washington wants a certain player, it will probably need to jump Utah (and any other team that would be talking trade with Philadelphia in this instance). The price point here is No. 18 and taking the Gordon deal into the trade exception that the Wizards created in the Johnny Davis deal at the deadline. It’s not small, but it’s a worthwhile move if they love someone, and the Wizards have several young players on rookie-scale deals on the roster already in Alex Sarr, Bub Carrington, Bilal Coulibaly, AJ Johnson and Kyshawn George.

Evaluations from scouts on Bailey remain wide, but no one doubts his athleticism and tools as a shot-maker. The ceiling for Bailey is that he can be the second-best player in the class if all breaks right. His pull-up game is highly impressive for a player his age, and he’s a good catch-and-shoot 3-point shooter already, even if it’s not his natural inclination. I like several of those Wizards players listed above, but only Carrington and potentially Johnson project as shot creators. Bailey would give them something on the wing that they don’t have, as much as I love Coulibaly’s game.

Bailey will be a project. He averaged 17.6 points and seven rebounds while shooting 46 percent from the field and 34 percent from 3. But his style of play did not seem conducive to winning basketball. He settles for a lot of long jumpers because he struggles to get to the rim (he has a high handle and high center of gravity that gets knocked off its line too easily). Defensively, he wasn’t always engaged in help situations unless he saw an opportunity to go get the basketball.

But Rutgers was a catastrophe when Bailey wasn’t on the court. Even in Big Ten play, the Scarlet Knights lost Bailey’s minutes by only three points per 100 possessions. When he was off the court, they lost those minutes by 23 points per 100, per CBB Analytics. Bailey is enormous, he’s long, he is a real shooter, and he showed some defensive moments that were very positive in switch situations.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6411513/2025/06/12/nba-mock-draft-2025-cooper-flagg-dylan-harper-vj-edgecombe/?campaign=13860870&source=athletic_targeted_email&userId=7030725

Just a detail, Philly is picking 3 rather than 4. (Charlotte, Utah, Wiz)

They have this trade at 3:

3. PROJECTED TRADE: Charlotte Hornets
VJ Edgecombe | 6-4 guard | 19 years old | Baylor
(Hornets trade No. 4 and No. 32 to Philadelphia 76ers for No. 3 and Andre Drummond)
No deal is close, and I’m sure the Sixers will continue to field offers until they get exactly what they want. But the most logical move is to trade down. At No. 3, the Sixers are atop a talent tier led by Edgecombe, Tre Johnson, Kon Knueppel and Ace Bailey. Some evaluators around the league would also throw Khaman Maluach and Jeremiah Fears into this group, and others would place prospects like Edgecombe and Bailey ahead and into their own mini-tier. For the Sixers, none of these prospects makes perfect sense.

With a couple of early second-round picks and salary flexibility to help the Sixers, the Hornets have the assets to jump one spot. Edgecombe makes the most sense with Charlotte’s team build in between LaMelo Ball and Brandon Miller in the backcourt. He’s tough and competitive, cares about winning and has been highly impressive in the pre-draft process. The Hornets need a better defensive infrastructure surrounding their franchise centerpieces, and Edgecombe is a terrific defensive player with elite athleticism. He’d be a running mate in transition for Ball early in his career while taking on the toughest perimeter defensive assignments. He also has a lot of potential offensively because of his special athleticism, mixed with his ability to hit catch-and-shoot jumpers. But he needs to continue working on his ball skills, particularly with his left hand and the tightness of his handle. Still, he averaged 15 points, nearly six rebounds and three assists as a freshman and has a long track record of knocking down shots off the catch.

If the Hornets think he’s the guy, paying one of your two second-round selections while taking on Drummond’s $5 million this year is worth trading up. The Sixers get financial flexibility by taking the Drummond deal off their books and would have an additional asset at the top of the second round. Maybe they could move into the latter portion of the first round? Sell it for future picks? They’d have options.

Sorry, and thanks for pointing that out. I should have done so.

[payitforward]

I'm high as hell on Coward. I feel like his measurements fit what Dawkins is looking for, his production went up at every level, and I get the sense because he's such an unknown, Dawkins will more than happily take him and bank on the unknown upside. I would take him at 6 at this point. I could see the Thunder drafting him.

No way they take Coward at 6. He’s almost 22, and his production was moderate in college. At his age, you wonder if theres going to be that much improvement in his game.

One thing worth noting about Coward is that he basically put up the exact same stats last year. Yes, he is going to be 21.77 years old on Draft Day, which is old, but he entered the draft last year with the same basic resume, and was mocked in the second round despite having basically the exact same draft profile.

He then re-enrolled in college but got hurt after just 6 games.

The optimistic take is that if you like him now at age 21.77, you should have liked him last year at age 20.77. Only now if you draft him, he is one year further along in development and physical maturity, and is likely to be a more impactful player for most of his rookie contract.

His shooting numbers are off the charts great for a wing. TBH, it'll be a shock to see him on the board at 18.

[dckingsfan]

No way they take Coward at 6. He’s almost 22, and his production was moderate in college. At his age, you wonder if theres going to be that much improvement in his game.

One thing worth noting about Coward is that he basically put up the exact same stats last year. Yes, he is going to be 21.77 years old on Draft Day, which is old, but he entered the draft last year with the same basic resume, and was mocked in the second round despite having basically the exact same draft profile.

He then re-enrolled in college but got hurt after just 6 games.

The optimistic take is that if you like him now at age 21.77, you should have liked him last year at age 20.77. Only now if you draft him, he is one year further along in development and physical maturity, and is likely to be a more impactful player for most of his rookie contract.

His shooting numbers are off the charts great for a wing. TBH, it'll be a shock to see him on the board at 18.

I am with you guys on Coward. The aggregate mocks have him going between 16 and 30 - I think it is going to be close to 16. I just don't see him falling past OKC/Orlando unless someone else they really like drops. But... there is a chance

I would love him on this team at 18.