TheBlackCzar wrote:prime1time wrote:TheBlackCzar wrote:
This isn't a fair comparison... Dylan is better at everything besides shooting... He's a better passer, driver, ball handler, defensive player, has a more NBA ready body, his father is a multitime NBA Champion, so he has many advantages.... Doesn't mean Tre won't be good, but you gotta be realistic about things... It's a reason Harper is so highly regarded.... Won't surprise me if he wins ROY......
Tre has a chance to be the best player in the class.
Maybe, but not likely.... I just see 2-3 people who will be better than him in time, and he could still be great, but I just don't think he'll be the greatest from this draft.... He's got to be better than Flagg, Harper and Bailey and I really don't think he will..... If he does wonderful for us, but I'm trying to be realistic, and a guy who's main skill is shooting, with average handles, average athleticism, average driving ability, it's a lot of hopium going around.... He can improve some of these things, but some things aren't improvable but by small margins of progress.....
It's fascinating how narratives get constructed. Johnson has a higher standing vert than both Edgecombe, Harper, Bailey and Flag. Edgecombe max vert beat Johnson by 1 inch. He also had the fasted lane agility measurement than all of those guys. As for the average driving ability and average handles, this is also a myth.
The best that can be said is that he struggled on 2 point fgs. But even this should be put in context. Most good teams will create several easy looks a game. These inflate the 2-point % of players. Not only did Tre rarely get this bump he actually experienced 2-point fg% deflation. He was the "bailout guy" for Texas. So late in the shot clock they gave Tre the ball and prayed that he make something happen. If you think he has average handles you haven't watched him play. Now what can be said is that he's not an elite scorer on offense. But no one is in college. Only a handful of players in the NBA are succeeding inside the 2-point line without adequate spacing and they are all HOFs.
Shooting is the most important skill in the NBA. Off of screens Johnson shot an insane 54.8% from 3. You're trying to make it sound like Johnson can't put the ball on the floor and he can't attack. This isn't true. Tre has one dribble pull-ups, two dribble pull-ups, a floater, a fadeway jumper, can finish with both hands and can attack the hoop with both hands. He has the most developed offensive game I've seen from a freshman in a very long time. A good comparison is
The Kentucky game shows that.
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He put up 34/9/3 while going 1/8 from 3 and going 9/10 from the free throw line. If he made 3's at his normal rate he would have put up 40 easily.
We should put Tre Johnson's season in perspective. He played in a dysfunctional offensive system with bad pg play. Everything he created, he created by himself. And he was the teams leading scorer by far. Every time he stepped on the floor he was the priority of the defense. Every defense he saw was game planned to stop him. And unlike Harper and Bailey he didn't have another incredible player to take the attention of the defense. Deep in the shot clock Texas would just give the ball to Johnson and hope.
I love the "all he does is better is shooting." The moment Tre Johnson steps onto the floor he'll be one of the best shooters in the NBA. His 39.7% from 3 includes crazy 3's like this one at 20 seconds where he uses the screen takes one dribble and shoots an off the dribble 3. How many players in the NBA are knocking down 3's like this?
And this isn't unsual.
