2024 Draft Thread - Part III

[pcbothwel]

What the hell, I'll throw my short list out there (Tiers matter, Rankings within tiers do not)
Bolded = Im higher on vs Mocks:
HOF/Generational:
N/A

All-NBA:
N/A

Impact Starters/AS:
Sarr
Sheppard
Edey
Buzelis

Impact Starter/No AS:
Castle
Topic
Holland
Clingan

Solid Starter/Bench player on Contendar:
Dillingham
Knecht
Risacher
Carter
Durisic
Simpson
Shannon Jr
Da Silva
Ware
Collier
Holmes
Dadiet
Christie

Fringe Starter/Bench player:
Ighodaro
Shead
Alexander
Salaun
Cody Williams
Walter
Filipowski
Missi
Kolek
Furphy
George
Hall

[payitforward]

I’m in France right now but my sleep schedule is all f’d up so maybe I’ll be awake when the draft happens 2 AM here. Either way I’m sure tomorrow we’ll have a lot to talk about god speed gentlemen

& I'm in Mexico City with tickets to the National Folkloric Ballet (only available night, & yes I am married). I'll catch the beginning of R1 but be gone by the middle.

[DCZards]

I’m in France right now but my sleep schedule is all f’d up so maybe I’ll be awake when the draft happens 2 AM here. Either way I’m sure tomorrow we’ll have a lot to talk about god speed gentlemen

& I'm in Mexico City with tickets to the National Folkloric Ballet (only available night, & yes I am married). I'll catch the beginning of R1 but be gone by the middle.

PIF, please restrain from screaming out when the Zards make a trade for 6 additional picks. That’s not a good look at the ballet.

[payitforward]

you llaigh, but I'm alredy trying to figre out if i can stream silently on my phone to catch updates! sorry for spelling...

[Endless Loop]

What the hell, I'll throw my short list out there (Tiers matter, Rankings within tiers do not)
Bolded = Im higher on vs Mocks:
HOF/Generational:
N/A

All-NBA:
N/A

Impact Starters/AS:
Sarr
Sheppard
Edey
Buzelis

Impact Starter/No AS:
Castle
Topic
Holland
Clingan

Solid Starter/Bench player on Contendar:
Dillingham
Knecht
Risacher
Carter
Durisic
Simpson
Shannon Jr
Da Silva
Ware
Collier
Holmes
Dadiet
Christie

Fringe Starter/Bench player:
Ighodaro
Shead
Alexander
Salaun
Cody Williams
Walter
Filipowski
Missi
Kolek
Furphy
George
Hall

I'd second this, except that I'd put Topic up with the Sarr group. The only reason no one talks about him anymore is the ACL tear, which apparently isn't career-threatening. If the Wiz were somehow to obtain a pick in the 5-10 range, he'd have to be a possibility. Especially because he'd fit their timeline so well. Wouldn't hurt the 2024-25 tank a bit!

[pancakes3]

I'd also take a flyer on DJ Burns as an UFA/2way guy.

[NatP4]

I'd second this, except that I'd put Topic up with the Sarr group. The only reason no one talks about him anymore is the ACL tear, which apparently isn't career-threatening. If the Wiz were somehow to obtain a pick in the 5-10 range, he'd have to be a possibility. Especially because he'd fit their timeline so well. Wouldn't hurt the 2024-25 tank a bit!

Best player in the draft. Guy is walking around with no limp, no brace, nothing. It’s a minor tear. He’ll have reconstructive surgery and a full 15 month recovery and get back on the court and still be younger than Reed Sheppard is right now.

No one else separated themselves and locked up the top pick in the draft. Only reason Topic didn’t is because of his injury. Not another player in the class with the same size/touch/downhill/rim pressure/vision skill set and production, while being the 2nd youngest player in the class.

Last time I’ll say it, just makes way too much sense for a team that needs a lead guard of the future, and needs to maintain the tank for the 2025 class, keep their pick.

[badinage]

^ if this is true, or close to truth, then a trade into the late lotto would be great.

But I don’t want to just give Kuz away for, say, a Jared McClain.

And I’m sorry, PIF, but last night’s deal did up the fetching price. No way can I just give away a 22 pt. scorer who can board and plays hard and is a great teammate for one FRP in a putatively weak draft.

He’s not as valuable as Bridges, but whoever gets him is getting a very nice 3rd/4th piece.

[DCZards]

And I’m sorry, PIF, but last night’s deal did up the fetching price. No way can I just give away a 22 pt. scorer who can board and plays hard and is a great teammate for one FRP in a putatively weak draft.

He’s not as valuable as Bridges, but whoever gets him is getting a very nice 3rd/4th piece.

Kuz on a team like Sac where he’d be a third or fourth option has the potential to be a better, more efficient player than he is on the Zards where he is typically the first or second option.

[badinage]

And I’m sorry, PIF, but last night’s deal did up the fetching price. No way can I just give away a 22 pt. scorer who can board and plays hard and is a great teammate for one FRP in a putatively weak draft.

He’s not as valuable as Bridges, but whoever gets him is getting a very nice 3rd/4th piece.

Kuz on a team like Sac where he’d be a third or fourth option has the potential to be a better, more efficient player than he is on the Zards where he is typically the first or second option.

Yes. Absolutely.

And that has to come at a cost.

Maybe not 5 picks — which, insane — maybe not 4. Maybe not even 3. But 2, at least, and one of them in another draft. And a young player.

Otherwise? Go fly a kite.

[nate33]

And I’m sorry, PIF, but last night’s deal did up the fetching price. No way can I just give away a 22 pt. scorer who can board and plays hard and is a great teammate for one FRP in a putatively weak draft.

He’s not as valuable as Bridges, but whoever gets him is getting a very nice 3rd/4th piece.

Kuz on a team like Sac where he’d be a third or fourth option has the potential to be a better, more efficient player than he is on the Zards where he is typically the first or second option.

Yes. Absolutely.

And that has to come at a cost.

Maybe not 5 picks — which, insane — maybe not 4. Maybe not even 3. But 2, at least, and one of them in another draft. And a young player.

Otherwise? Go fly a kite.

All picks are not the same.

I think when Wizards management leaks that they expect 2 picks in a Kuzma trade, they are assuming that they will be trading Kuzma to a playoff-caliber team and those 2 picks are likely to be in the mid-to-late 20's. But two picks in the 20's are roughly equivalent to one pick in the late lotto. So, by that rationale, getting the #13 pick is arguably the same type of value they were expecting.

All that said, I would be in favor of getting picks from 2025 and/or 2026 more so than picks in this draft.

[tontoz]

If I am the Spurs the guy I want the most is Sheppard, but I don't want to give up too much to get him. The 8th pick and next year's first (via Atlanta) seems reasonable to move up to 2.

Then they could get Sheppard at 2 and Castle or Risacher at 4.

[badinage]

I hear you, Nate, but last night changed the calculus.

We’re not in February anymore, Toto.

A pretty good but not great — far from great! — wing just fetched 5 picks.

[badinage]

I read somewhere that Ris is atop the Wizards’ board and Sarr no. 2 — don’t know if that’s true; I don’t think anyone knows.

But.

What if ATL takes Clingan at 1, do we take Ris at 2 and pass on Sarr?

[closg00]

This feels like the Anthony Bennett draft. I would not be shocked if Atlanta stuns the world.

I'm also going to laugh if Zach Edey turns out to be the Giannis-like steal that dominates and puts up 20 & 10 every night.

The trending line I have heard from people who covers hoops is that “the draft starts at the 6th pick”

I am expecting Edey to be double-double machine from the jump.

[NatP4]

No way he’s going to ATL lol

Read on Twitter

[doclinkin]

Welp. Who do we want at 14 from the Deni trade?

[tleikheen]

Avidja gonee ...... for Brogden ,OMG

[tleikheen]

It seems to me this is not equal value for his age and what he did last yr .Avidja is on the rise .... for the Blazers.

[doclinkin]

This feels like the Anthony Bennett draft. I would not be shocked if Atlanta stuns the world.

I'm also going to laugh if Zach Edey turns out to be the Giannis-like steal that dominates and puts up 20 & 10 every night.

Not me. I'm going to sulk so damned hard. Stef Curry level. I'll be peeved with a capital Pee.