How Concerned — or Alarmed — Should We Be?

[doclinkin]

Well, it does seem like this FO is having to rely on luck. So, luck it is with our fingers and toes crossed.

One more thing - if they make the current youngsters available for more trade assets, then we have a better chance to "luck out". I don't think the draft class of '24 will yield anything that is all that.

My biggest cause concern is that this FO will "value" who they picked AND that they have to be lucky.

Seems to me the issue some fans have with this team is that they have been ruthless in trading their assets. They see improvement in Deni and ship him. They rehab the value of Jared Butler and trade him. All for extra chances to get lucky. If anything the critique could be that they value draft picks more than actual players.

They're going to regret trading Butler.

Depends who they get with that 2026 draft pick. Or if they bundle it and move up. I don't think this front office wastes a lot of time on regrets. Unlike this fanbase

[AFM]

Can you guys please answer the OP? My level of concern is about a 3 right now out of 10. As long as Terd is in charge I can never be at a 1 or 2. Never trust a Greek or a Billionaire. That's my double bottom line.

[dckingsfan]

Seems to me the issue some fans have with this team is that they have been ruthless in trading their assets. They see improvement in Deni and ship him. They rehab the value of Jared Butler and trade him. All for extra chances to get lucky. If anything the critique could be that they value draft picks more than actual players.

They're going to regret trading Butler.

Depends who they get with that 2026 draft pick. Or if they bundle it and move up. I don't think this front office wastes a lot of time on regrets. Unlike this fanbase

If they do that with Sarr, Bub, Bilal, George and AJ as well for the appropriate value. I am all onboard with this approach. Well, and they need to cut out the signings like Kuz and Kizpert (IMO).

So:
rebuild - terrific.
play young guys - terrific.
trade for more draft assets - terrific.

Trades, not bad.

Signings - not so much.
Trading into bad draft years - meh.

Luck - we shall see. We need a heavy dose. And luck has to be the plan at this point.

Get lucky and then move the franchise! There won't be any more fans at that point

[payitforward]

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It's a lot easier (& more fun) being a fan now than it was at this time 2 years ago.

[penbeast0]

Last time I felt this positive was the year we signed rookie Rick Mahorn and traded for Jeff Ruland and then actually played them. I don't know if any of these guys will ever be good but they are fun to root for.

[payitforward]

Last time I felt this positive was the year we signed rookie Rick Mahorn and traded for Jeff Ruland and then actually played them. I don't know if any of these guys will ever be good but they are fun to root for.

Hear hear!!

[DCZards]

I like this FO’s approach—draft or trade for as many young players as possible over the next couple of years…and develop them with the anticipation/hope that you’ll come away with a star (or two) and 3-4 good to very good players.

[tontoz]

We need some lottery luck but at least we have a chance now. There is definitely a fall off in talent after the top 3.

For so long we had no chance, making short term win now moves to make that 8 seed.

[payitforward]

Yep.
I don't feel concerned, & I certainly don't feel alarmed!

What I feel is interested & excited. The future is not guaranteed, but we're headed in the right direction.

[AFM]

All I know is since they traded Kuz they've at least been very watchable!!!!

[dckingsfan]

Change this to How Concerned - or Alarmed - or how Optimistic - Should we be? With a side of "are we having fun yet?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Seems to me the issue some fans have with this team is that they have been ruthless in trading their assets. They see improvement in Deni and ship him. They rehab the value of Jared Butler and trade him. All for extra chances to get lucky. If anything the critique could be that they value draft picks more than actual players.

They're going to regret trading Butler.

Depends who they get with that 2026 draft pick. Or if they bundle it and move up. I don't think this front office wastes a lot of time on regrets. Unlike this fanbase

Also, it depends on who falls to round two.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10150092-2025-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-and-pro-comparisons

Johni Broome and Ryan Kalkbrenner plus Jared Butler?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Can you guys please answer the OP? My level of concern is about a 3 right now out of 10. As long as Terd is in charge I can never be at a 1 or 2. Never trust a Greek or a Billionaire. That's my double bottom line.

My level of concern is at 5 or 6 out of 10.

I think Sarr will always be soft. He doesn't convert inside. He's only a decent rebounder. He's very good handling the ball in transition. Maybe he'll fill out and add power finishes to his game.

Bub Carrington isn't explosive enough to ever be All-NBA. He'll be an okay pro. Juwan Howard was solid for many years.

George is an impressive defender who gets to the basket. I'm very optimistic about his future, but his shooting is iffy.

I also like Bilal Coulibaly as a two-way player. He's the most promising young talent on the team.

AJ Johnson looks to be as promising as Carrington because he's very athletic. He finishes at the rim.

The Wizards are so young. They'll lose another year, at least. From being terrible, they have to get beyond being mediocre.

Guess what? At mediocre, what must happen? Then they get good. When is this? 2027?

Just because they tore it all down won't mean much if they don't strike gold in the lottery. OKC will be a dynasty. Houston is set with Udoka at the helm. Memphis is the youngest team in the league. Boston is Boston. Like Golden State, they have better organizations and will be more successful. San Antonio will kill it again with two picks. Yes, doclinkin, they could get Flagg (and Queen). Am I concerned?

I'm a realist. It's been 50 years since 50 wins...

The best Washington can hope for is to be a mid-tier team in three years. Right?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

They're going to regret trading Butler.

Depends who they get with that 2026 draft pick. Or if they bundle it and move up. I don't think this front office wastes a lot of time on regrets. Unlike this fanbase

If they do that with Sarr, Bub, Bilal, George and AJ as well for the appropriate value. I am all onboard with this approach. Well, and they need to cut out the signings like Kuz and Kizpert (IMO).

So:
rebuild - terrific.
play young guys - terrific.
trade for more draft assets - terrific.

Trades, not bad.

Signings - not so much.
Trading into bad draft years - meh.

Luck - we shall see. We need a heavy dose. And luck has to be the plan at this point.

Get lucky and then move the franchise! There won't be any more fans at that point

Let's pray that we get lucky!

We deserve it now that Ernie Grunfeld and Tommy Sheppard are history. .

[AFM]

Can you guys please answer the OP? My level of concern is about a 3 right now out of 10. As long as Terd is in charge I can never be at a 1 or 2. Never trust a Greek or a Billionaire. That's my double bottom line.

My level of concern is at 5 or 6 out of 10.

I think Sarr will always be soft. He doesn't convert inside. He's only a decent rebounder. He's very good handling the ball in transition. Maybe he'll fill out and add power finishes to his game.

Bub Carrington isn't explosive enough to ever be All-NBA. He'll be an okay pro. Juwan Howard was solid for many years.

George is an impressive defender who gets to the basket. I'm very optimistic about his future, but his shooting is iffy.

I also like Bilal Coulibaly as a two-way player. He's the most promising young talent on the team.

AJ Johnson looks to be as promising as Carrington because he's very athletic. He finishes at the rim.

The Wizards are so young. They'll lose another year, at least. From being terrible, they have to get beyond being mediocre.

Guess what? At mediocre, what must happen? Then they get good. When is this? 2027?

Just because they tore it all down won't mean much if they down strike gold in the lottery. OKC will be a dynasty. Houston is set with Udoka at the helm. Memphis is the youngest team in the league. Boston is Boston. Like Golden State, they have better organizations and will be more successful. San Antonio will kill it again with two picks. Yes, doclinkin, they could get Flagg (and Queen). Am I concerned?

I'm a realist. It's been 50 years since 50 wins...

The best Washington can hope for is to be a mid-tier team in three years. Right?

More or less. They have to be terrible next year or we lose our lottery pick.

So much hinges on luck. The difference between getting Flagg and whoever we could draft at 5 is monumental, no pun intended.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Yep.
I don't feel concerned, & I certainly don't feel alarmed!

What I feel is interested & excited. The future is not guaranteed, but we're headed in the right direction.

I like reading this. I bet you're closer to the truth.

I feel like we are certainly at a point of inflection. This front office is innovative, energetic, and has a clear set of objectives based on a master archetype.

We won't ever see anything again like the time EG acquired two similar players, Andrew Nicholson and Jason Smith, from an opponent's bench.

At least Dawkins is using the OKC or a finding Giannis approach.

[TheBlackCzar]

Yep.
I don't feel concerned, & I certainly don't feel alarmed!

What I feel is interested & excited. The future is not guaranteed, but we're headed in the right direction.

I like reading this. I bet you're closer to the truth.

I feel like we are certainly at a point of inflection. This front office is innovative, energetic, and has a clear set of objectives based on a master archetype.

We won't ever see anything again like the time EG acquired two similar players, Andrew Nicholson and Jason Smith, from an opponent's bench.

At least Dawkins is using the OKC or a finding Giannis approach.

You coming around

[dckingsfan]

Let's pray that we get lucky!

Indeed!!!

[DCZards]

Another solid game tonight against Indy for Bub and George.

18pts, 8rebs, 5assts & 4/6 on 3s for Bub.

George had 14pts, 9rebs & 3/4 on 3s.

[dobrojim]

Last time I felt this positive was the year we signed rookie Rick Mahorn and traded for Jeff Ruland and then actually played them. I don't know if any of these guys will ever be good but they are fun to root for.

McFilthy and McNasty

Some interesting times those were