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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#301 » by Ruzious » Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:56 pm

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Grunfeld: Wizards Searching For Team Identity

The Wizards are still searching for their identity with two months left to go during a frustrating, unpredictable season.

“I think we are trying to find an identity and who we are and what kind of team we are,” said president Ernie Grunfeld. “I think we are playing much harder and are taking advantage of the resources we have including speed, length, and athleticism. We have a point-guard that likes to get up and down the floor and we need players that can play with John.”

The Wizards will be in line for a high draft pick, which could net another franchise cornerstone.

“We want to play the game the right way,” Grunfeld added. “ That’s making the extra pass, helping out on the defensive end, rebounding the basketball, and playing with high energy and high intensity at all times. We have seen a lot of that, but when you have young players you are going to be inconsistent. Still those young payers are getting valuable minutes at an NBA level and that will be helpful over time.”

http://www.csnwashington.com/blog/wizar ... eedID=6356

While the team is searching for a new identity, Ted should be searching for a new GM. Ernie want's the team to rebound, yet he has never valued putting a rebounder on the team among a long list of offences. This spin is as all about conning Ted into giving him a extension.



This whole article is completely embarrassing. What was the prompting of Ernie making this announcement?? "The Wizards are still searching for their identity with two months left to go" just displays complete ineptitude throughout this team's management.

Like Closg said - hopefully, they're "searching" for a new GM who focuses more on putting together a quality roster than coming up with empty catch-phrases.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#302 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:05 pm

The Wizards never try to go big using Seraphin with McGee. Instead of getting frustrated with Javale's defense they could try for more points in the paint at the other end by going big. Seraphin defends better but can also score inside and with hook shots. He and McGee would score even better than Booker with McGee IMO. At times, Booker could be with the two of them at SF.

Instead of allowing guards to jack shots they really could try to let the bigs have a crack at it.

The Wizards lack imagination on how to use their personnel.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#303 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:27 pm

WASHINGTON: Flip Saunders took the fall even though he had nothing to do with assembling this squad of extremely talented players who don’t understand how to play basketball. Ernie Grunfeld must have in his possession a photograph of Ted Leonsis in a highly compromising position. Grade: F+

http://hoopshype.com/columns/rosen/the-mid-term-grades

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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#304 » by tontoz » Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:44 pm

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WASHINGTON: Flip Saunders took the fall even though he had nothing to do with assembling this squad of extremely talented players who don’t understand how to play basketball. Ernie Grunfeld must have in his possession a photograph of Ted Leonsis in a highly compromising position. Grade: F+

http://hoopshype.com/columns/rosen/the-mid-term-grades

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EG scored some points with Ted with the Arenas and Hinrich trades. Hopefully that wont be enough for him to get a new contract.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#305 » by WizarDynasty » Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:47 pm

If EG sings Jeff Green, we can focus on getting a starting caliber two way shooting guard with a high bbiq and starting powerforward.
I think Green being from the area makes alot of sense and is a starting caliber small forward. who can shoot
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#306 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:03 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:If EG sings Jeff Green, we can focus on getting a starting caliber two way shooting guard with a high bbiq and starting powerforward.
I think Green being from the area makes alot of sense and is a starting caliber small forward. who can shoot


There was a lot of discussion about Green in the FA thread, interest in him was luke-warm at best.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#307 » by tontoz » Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:06 pm

Green was mediocre before he got hurt. The last thing we need to do is sign a mediocre player coming off an injury to a long term deal.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#308 » by Newk Rollins » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:34 am

Just one quick note about whether or not to keep Grunfeld. From where we stand, the record of Ernie is mixed, though this year's draft seems very weak.

BUT from the perspective of Leonsis, there by now should be no doubt at all as to whether or not to keep Ernie. That's because Ted should have a TON more data than we do to evaluate Ernie. Ted should be tracking not only the performance of draft picks by the Wizards, but also the performance of ALL players from each draft year- the reality of how they have done versus the forecast of Ernie.

For instance, we debate over whether the Wizards should have taken Wall or Cousins or somebody else. All we know is that Ernie graded Wall #1. But who did he have as #2... #3? and so on. If Ted's evaluating Ernie properly, then there really shouldn't be much doubt about Grunfeld's abilities as a talent evaluator. Because he should have 30 times as much data about Ernie as we do.

There also shouldn't be much doubt about Ernie's capacity as a deal maker. Because for every deal that Ernie actually makes, there are probably several times that many deals he doesn't make. In hindsight, Ted should be able to evaluate whether or not Ernie should have made those deals.

If Ted's not gathering all this data, then he should start right away.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#309 » by hands11 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:07 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The Wizards never try to go big using Seraphin with McGee. Instead of getting frustrated with Javale's defense they could try for more points in the paint at the other end by going big. Seraphin defends better but can also score inside and with hook shots. He and McGee would score even better than Booker with McGee IMO. At times, Booker could be with the two of them at SF.

Instead of allowing guards to jack shots they really could try to let the bigs have a crack at it.

The Wizards lack imagination on how to use their personnel.


Hey, now there is an idea :D
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#310 » by closg00 » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:28 am

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WASHINGTON: Flip Saunders took the fall even though he had nothing to do with assembling this squad of extremely talented players who don’t understand how to play basketball. Ernie Grunfeld must have in his possession a photograph of Ted Leonsis in a highly compromising position. Grade: F+

http://hoopshype.com/columns/rosen/the-mid-term-grades

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EG scored some points with Ted with the Arenas and Hinrich trades. Hopefully that wont be enough for him to get a new contract.


*Bump* Just hoping one of Ted's people is reading the board tonight.
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Re: Official Countdown 2 Ernie"NoLowPostOffense"Grunfeld#2 

Post#311 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Mar 6, 2012 2:37 am

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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#312 » by WizarDynasty » Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:38 am

Ernie just has no clue on how to spend your money. You use your cap space to steal other team's difference makers in their prime. You have to over pay in order to steal difference makers. Marc Gasol was difference maker.
Eric Gordon, James Harden. You have to pay above the market value to steal another team's difference maker and Ernie hasn't done that. I would rather over pay for a difference maker, instead of paying 1/3 of his salary to 3 players that don't make a consistent difference each night.
difference makers almost always shoot above .45 percent. They almost always hold their opponent to below his average defensively. Difference makers almost always have a superior physical body strength to the average strength at their position.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#313 » by 7-Day Dray » Tue Mar 6, 2012 4:44 am

WizarDynasty wrote:Ernie just has no clue on how to spend your money. You use your cap space to steal other team's difference makers in their prime. You have to over pay in order to steal difference makers. Marc Gasol was difference maker.
Eric Gordon, James Harden. You have to pay above the market value to steal another team's difference maker and Ernie hasn't done that. I would rather over pay for a difference maker, instead of paying 1/3 of his salary to 3 players that don't make a consistent difference each night.
difference makers almost always shoot above .45 percent. They almost always hold their opponent to below his average defensively. Difference makers almost always have a superior physical body strength to the average strength at their position.


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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#314 » by no D in Hibachi » Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:59 pm

Is it evil for me to hope the Caps don't make the playoffs??

Here's my logic. The Caps are Ted's baby and if they fail, while the Wiz are also completely miserable, maybe he'll be more inclined to reevaluate who he has managing his sports teams? At that point he'll cast off GMGM and GMEG. I'm not really a fan of the Caps so I don't care whether they succeed or fail, but if missing the playoffs causes Ted to dump Ernie I'd be happy to see the Caps not in the playoffs for years.

I know, I'm grasping at straws, but I have this sneaky suspicion that EG gets retained.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#315 » by tontoz » Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:09 am

7-Day Dray wrote:^Just looked at your sig? How the hell do you do a backwards hopstep?


I could use an explanation for this as well

Jumpin ability highly correlated Olympic power cleans.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#316 » by queridiculo » Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:10 am

Leonsis wasted a lot of time and quite possibly Ovechkin's prime not reacting to his team failure in the playoffs. Quite reminiscent of the Wizards build around Butler, Jamison and Arenas.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#317 » by go'stags » Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:22 am

Even worse, I have a bad feeling that Ted hasn't even given much thought to firing Ernie. That's surely just me being pessimistic, right?
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#318 » by closg00 » Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:28 am

David Kahn will be back next season to continue rebuilding the Minnesota Timberwolves. Kahn, 50, is in the third year of a three-year contract as president of basketball operations. But the deal includes two more years at the team's option, and owner Glen Taylor said Wednesday night he wants Kahn back. "I like David; I'm happy with him," Taylor said. Taylor said he and Kahn will firm up the option at season's end.


Kahn's r_a_p_e of Ernie was probably the feather in his cap. Yeah, Ernie will be in the drivers seat for our next draft :crazy:
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#319 » by JonathanJoseph » Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:14 am

go'stags wrote:Even worse, I have a bad feeling that Ted hasn't even given much thought to firing Ernie. That's surely just me being pessimistic, right?


Ted spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the franchise. I'm sure he has given thought to who he wants to run it.

Grunfeld's contract is up. Until I hear otherwise, I think it's a safe assumption that Grunfeld will not be signed to another contract.
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Re: Official Countdown to Firing Ernie Grunfeld #2 

Post#320 » by no D in Hibachi » Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:09 am

JonathanJoseph wrote:
go'stags wrote:Even worse, I have a bad feeling that Ted hasn't even given much thought to firing Ernie. That's surely just me being pessimistic, right?


Ted spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the franchise. I'm sure he has given thought to who he wants to run it.

Grunfeld's contract is up. Until I hear otherwise, I think it's a safe assumption that Grunfeld will not be signed to another contract.

If he's not going to be back why wait until after the trade deadline to get rid of him? It totally wastes the opportunity to set the deck for the off-season.

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