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[Nivek]

Guys stop growing at around 25 yes? He has 7 years of growth in him if that were the case. I wouldn't be surprised if he grew an inch, inch and a half between now and then. It's entirely possible.

It varies. Most men have reached their full height by the end of puberty. Most will stop growing before age 21. A few may have a growth spurt up to age 25.

[TGW]

I don't believe it. Him and Crawford were standing neck and neck in that pic and Crawford is 6'4.

[Ruzious]

Dan Steinberg just Tweeted this:

Flip Saunders tells the Junkies that John Wall is still growing, might be 6-5 now, and will peak at nearly 6-6.

Wow.

Maybe the really are interested in a smaller guard (Kemba/Knight) or trading for someone like Steph Curry to run with Wall.

Wall 6'6"? Look out, league.

Dayam! That extra inch or 2 and just more experience should make him one of the better finishers in the NBA.

That's what she said. Sorry, I watched too many episodes of The Office lately.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I don't believe it. Him and Crawford were standing neck and neck in that pic and Crawford is 6'4.

+1

[Ed Wood]

Every NBA player under the age of 24 is going to grow between 1-3 inches every off season. Every skinny player is going to put on between 10-25 pounds of muscle, every fat player is going to lose about the same. Everybody spent the off season shooting 1000 jumpers every day.

Next year in a league of 8 foot tall Greek statues with laser beam jumpers my friend.

edit: Kwame will be 8.5 feet tall.

[theboomking]

According to the draftexpress database, Wall and Crawford's measurements at the combine were as follows:

Crawford: 6'3" barefoot 6'4.5" shoes 6'7"wingspan 8'5"standing reach 198#
31.5" no step vert 34.5" max vert 11'3.5" max vert reach

Wall: 6'2.75" barefoot 6'4" shoes 6'9.25"wingspan 8'5.5"standing reach 198#
30" no step vert 39" max vert 11'8.5" max vert reach

Wall was 1/4" shorter than Crawford in bare feet, so maybe he's grown 1/2". Still, 6'4.5" in shoes is pretty great for a PG. If Wall is done growing, he is still very tall for his position, and even longer than he is tall, and even more athletic than he is long.

One also has to consider that it is possible that Crawford has also grown in the last year.

[bullitz]

I usually prefer to lurk but I couldn't resist. I watched the jersey unveiling live yesterday and noticed that Wall seemed to be a bit taller than Crawford when they stood side by side. I don't think the pics of them with someone in between are giving the right picture so to speak.

[theboomking]

I usually prefer to lurk but I couldn't resist. I watched the jersey unveiling live yesterday and noticed that Wall seemed to be a bit taller than Crawford when they stood side by side. I don't think the pics of them with someone in between are giving the right picture so to speak.

It is hard to tell with Crawford. He is so slouchy. I've never seen an athlete with such rounded shoulders and poor posture. I think he needs some physical therapy to loosen up his pec minors.

It would be nice if we just got a re-measurement before the beginning of next season. I bet if enough of us ask Ted, he may give us the skinny.

Does anyone here worry that Wall will get too tall to effectively guard smaller, quicker PG's? He is pretty tall and lean, and already has a pretty high center of gravity.

[Ruzious]

I usually prefer to lurk but I couldn't resist. I watched the jersey unveiling live yesterday and noticed that Wall seemed to be a bit taller than Crawford when they stood side by side. I don't think the pics of them with someone in between are giving the right picture so to speak.

It is hard to tell with Crawford. He is so slouchy. I've never seen an athlete with such rounded shoulders and poor posture. I think he needs some physical therapy to loosen up his pec minors.

It would be nice if we just got a re-measurement before the beginning of next season. I bet if enough of us ask Ted, he may give us the skinny.

Does anyone here worry that Wall will get too tall to effectively guard smaller, quicker PG's? He is pretty tall and lean, and already has a pretty high center of gravity.

That kind of thing actually happens in baseball with shortstop prospects. Teams draft 18 year old shortstops, and scouts project whether or not they will "outgrow the position".

[FAH1223]

I usually prefer to lurk but I couldn't resist. I watched the jersey unveiling live yesterday and noticed that Wall seemed to be a bit taller than Crawford when they stood side by side. I don't think the pics of them with someone in between are giving the right picture so to speak.

It is hard to tell with Crawford. He is so slouchy. I've never seen an athlete with such rounded shoulders and poor posture. I think he needs some physical therapy to loosen up his pec minors.

It would be nice if we just got a re-measurement before the beginning of next season. I bet if enough of us ask Ted, he may give us the skinny.

Does anyone here worry that Wall will get too tall to effectively guard smaller, quicker PG's? He is pretty tall and lean, and already has a pretty high center of gravity.

No, that length will actually help... considering John is already pretty quick and athletic to hold his own on defense (assuming he gets better on defense, which he will cause of his work ethic)

[Illuminaire]

Yeah, it seems like length is the best quality for defending quick guards, even more than your own footspeed. No one can actually stay in front of speedy guards; length lets you play a half-step further back while still contesting jump shots, giving you more time to recover and push driving players towards your help.

[dangermouse]

I was watching some of that John Wall Porn on youtube from around the draft, testing his quickness with and without the ball and how fast he can change direction to get around an opponent.

Yeah, hes quick, with and without the ball. He also seems to have well above twenty-twenty vision. Nash said that was one of his own most important attributes. Also his reflexes seem to be quicker than average.

I think he will come back and be a much better defender next season even without much coaching. He knows what to expect now. He should anticipate screens coming better and know how to handle them. He has all the physical tools to excel on that end.

A 6'5" Wall with the ability to guard most PG's and even some SG's is a great weapon to have... Wall and Nick could turn out to be one of the better defensive back courts in the league. If McGee and Blatche get it together and we re-sign Howard who comes back strong, that is a good lineup. Even without any major acquisitions I think we are another 10-15 games better if not more.

[dangermouse]

Going back to Wall's physical attributes, he looks more Ectomorph than Endomorph body type, so while i think he will bulk up a bit more, it won't be much at all. Hes all greyhound.

For comparison, Rose is probably a good example of an Endomorph PG. If you look at Durant and LeBron, you can see two good examples at either end of the spectrum.

I'd prefer if he didnt bulk up at all really. It would only help him if he had to guard bigger SG's. He isnt going to face many bigger PG's. Rose is probably the strongest PG in the league but Wall has the height and length advantage over him right now, and im not sure their strength differential is enough that Rose could post him up and score that way efficiently.

[theboomking]

Bulking up a bit and getting stronger can also really help players finish through contact and absorb the punishment that gets doled out to players that attack the rim a lot.

That being said, John is always going to be thinner. I'd also prefer that he doesn't gain a lot of weight.

[Dark Faze]

With a guy like Wall who tries to lay the ball up at the rim it would be pretty stupid for him not to bulk up. He's going to need to build on his explosiveness by hitting the weight room. Judging by some of what I've seen I think he's already at it.

[Zonkerbl]

I usually prefer to lurk but I couldn't resist. I watched the jersey unveiling live yesterday and noticed that Wall seemed to be a bit taller than Crawford when they stood side by side. I don't think the pics of them with someone in between are giving the right picture so to speak.

It is hard to tell with Crawford. He is so slouchy. I've never seen an athlete with such rounded shoulders and poor posture. I think he needs some physical therapy to loosen up his pec minors.

It would be nice if we just got a re-measurement before the beginning of next season. I bet if enough of us ask Ted, he may give us the skinny.

Does anyone here worry that Wall will get too tall to effectively guard smaller, quicker PG's? He is pretty tall and lean, and already has a pretty high center of gravity.

CLYDE DREXLER

It's like no one reads my posts.

[doclinkin]

Also: Pecherov. Dude would have been 7'2" if he could stand up straight, but was bent into a candy cane from all those years hunching over his plate trying to eat quick before the rest of the village stole it from him.

Nick Young is another lazy slopey individual. Bad posture is the only plausible explanation for how you show a 7 foot wingspan and a standing reach shorter than Michael Redd's. You just didn't even bother to try, dude.

[daSwami]

go check out some old clips of earl monroe - crawford's physique is almost indentical.

[pineappleheadindc]

I usually prefer to lurk but I couldn't resist. I watched the jersey unveiling live yesterday and noticed that Wall seemed to be a bit taller than Crawford when they stood side by side. I don't think the pics of them with someone in between are giving the right picture so to speak.

It is hard to tell with Crawford. He is so slouchy. I've never seen an athlete with such rounded shoulders and poor posture. I think he needs some physical therapy to loosen up his pec minors.

It would be nice if we just got a re-measurement before the beginning of next season. I bet if enough of us ask Ted, he may give us the skinny.

Does anyone here worry that Wall will get too tall to effectively guard smaller, quicker PG's? He is pretty tall and lean, and already has a pretty high center of gravity.

CLYDE DREXLER

It's like no one reads my posts.

If feels like nobody reads your posts because nobody reads your posts.

[Zonkerbl]

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