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Post#301 » by hands11 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:59 am

TGW wrote:Hands you were right—should have gave the kid some playing time, especially considering how garbage Maynor and Temple are.

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NP. I put some hot sauce on mine. Goes down easier.

A nice bottle of wine is always nice also.

I'm not sure he was the right pick when what you needed was a PG and Center, but if you traded up to pick him, and he played well in preseason, then give the kid some minutes to keep his momentum going from preseason to regular season.

If we kept Crawford, it would have been fun to see those two out there together. I think JCraw would have gotten along with Rice and played well together.
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Post#302 » by fishercob » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:52 pm

I saw him play in person for the first time at the Clipper game. In start contrast to Porter, his legs are enormous. He has anvils for calves. It certainly seems like his body will be able to grow to withstand the NBA grind. He's got to work on his skills/game and get much better, but the upside is there.

I'm more concerned about Porter than I have been since before the draft. I worry about him being able to withstand the physical pounding. I hope I'm wrong.
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Post#303 » by AFM » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:57 pm

Don't worry fisher, I'll do all the worrying for you. i was worried that Ernie was going to draft him no matter what, i was worried that he slipped and hurt his wittle tiny hip, I was worried that the kid has terrible "Shawn Marion" shooting form, and I'm worried that he'll never be good.
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Post#304 » by nate33 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:57 pm

fishercob wrote:I saw him play in person for the first time at the Clipper game. In start contrast to Porter, his legs are enormous. He has anvils for calves. It certainly seems like his body will be able to grow to withstand the NBA grind. He's got to work on his skills/game and get much better, but the upside is there.

I'm more concerned about Porter than I have been since before the draft. I worry about him being able to withstand the physical pounding. I hope I'm wrong.

There are a couple of examples of extremely skinny, lanky athletes who somehow manage to stay healthy for years: Garnett and Prince come to mind. But I think they are the exception rather than the rule.
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Post#305 » by DCZards » Wed Dec 18, 2013 4:10 pm

AFM wrote:Don't worry fisher, I'll do all the worrying for you. i was worried that Ernie was going to draft him no matter what, i was worried that he slipped and hurt his wittle tiny hip, I was worried that the kid has terrible "Shawn Marion" shooting form, and I'm worried that he'll never be good.


I wouldn't be worrried about Porter's "Shawn Marion" shooting form...it seems to have served Marion well for more than a decade. Kevin Martin also has an odd shooting form...and yet he's still a damn good shooter. My view on Porter's form is "if it ain't broke don't fix it."
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Post#306 » by Nivek » Wed Dec 18, 2013 6:28 pm

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fishercob wrote:I saw him play in person for the first time at the Clipper game. In start contrast to Porter, his legs are enormous. He has anvils for calves. It certainly seems like his body will be able to grow to withstand the NBA grind. He's got to work on his skills/game and get much better, but the upside is there.

I'm more concerned about Porter than I have been since before the draft. I worry about him being able to withstand the physical pounding. I hope I'm wrong.

There are a couple of examples of extremely skinny, lanky athletes who somehow manage to stay healthy for years: Garnett and Prince come to mind. But I think they are the exception rather than the rule.


I tried to look at this in a systematic way a couple years ago, but it's just too arbitrary deciding who's "skinny/lanky" and who's not aside from some obvious ones. Rip Hamilton was skinny; Shaq was not. KG: skinny; Barkley: not. Reggie Miller, who rarely missed games? Rudy Gay? You mentioned Prince. And so on. i I remain thoroughly unconvinced that skinny guys are any more injury prone than guys who are "other than skinny." And vice versa.
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Post#307 » by mhd » Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:48 pm

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fishercob wrote:I saw him play in person for the first time at the Clipper game. In start contrast to Porter, his legs are enormous. He has anvils for calves. It certainly seems like his body will be able to grow to withstand the NBA grind. He's got to work on his skills/game and get much better, but the upside is there.

I'm more concerned about Porter than I have been since before the draft. I worry about him being able to withstand the physical pounding. I hope I'm wrong.

There are a couple of examples of extremely skinny, lanky athletes who somehow manage to stay healthy for years: Garnett and Prince come to mind. But I think they are the exception rather than the rule.


I tried to look at this in a systematic way a couple years ago, but it's just too arbitrary deciding who's "skinny/lanky" and who's not aside from some obvious ones. Rip Hamilton was skinny; Shaq was not. KG: skinny; Barkley: not. Reggie Miller, who rarely missed games? Rudy Gay? You mentioned Prince. And so on. i I remain thoroughly unconvinced that skinny guys are any more injury prone than guys who are "other than skinny." And vice versa.



That's true. I think you DO NEED an NBA boday to play. Porter wasn't strong enough to battle Stephen Jackson in the Clippers game. I don't know if his body is condusive enough to develop an NBA body (which Beal & Rice have).
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Post#308 » by Nivek » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:00 pm

I think the keys are strength and toughness. Porter is 20 years old. Unless he has some kind of medical disorder, he'll get stronger if he eats well and works hard in the weight room. I don't see any reason to think he won't add strength and some pounds of muscle as he gets older and in better condition.
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Post#309 » by GeeWiz » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:10 pm

Nivek wrote:I think the keys are strength and toughness. Porter is 20 years old. Unless he has some kind of medical disorder, he'll get stronger if he eats well and works hard in the weight room. I don't see any reason to think he won't add strength and some pounds of muscle as he gets older and in better condition.


Exactly. The pick before the draft seemed as though it would be more of a win-now pick with an NBA-ready player.

At this point, it looks like its the exact opposite. If Porter can put on 20-30 pounds, hell be fine. And 20-30 pounds doesn't come quickly, so the pick looks like it will pay off down the line.




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Post#310 » by Nivek » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:25 pm

Nah -- I'm not suggesting Porter NEEDS to add weight. I don't think that's the case at all, unless he's going to be a full-time PF. I think he needs to get stronger. As he does that, his weight will probably go up a little.

And yeah, I know he was sold a bit as "NBA ready." I never really bought that, in part because few 19-20 year olds are TRULY NBA ready. I think he'll have a good career, though.
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Post#311 » by verbal8 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 8:36 pm

Nivek wrote:Nah -- I'm not suggesting Porter NEEDS to add weight. I don't think that's the case at all, unless he's going to be a full-time PF. I think he needs to get stronger. As he does that, his weight will probably go up a little.

And yeah, I know he was sold a bit as "NBA ready." I never really bought that, in part because few 19-20 year olds are TRULY NBA ready. I think he'll have a good career, though.


Usually I pretty much ignore the combine bench press measurements when looking at prospects, however I do think it is somewhat promising with Porter. I feel optimistic that a young guy with a good reach and decent bench press will be able to add the strength he needs to be successful in the NBA.
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Post#312 » by nuposse04 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 10:16 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WashWizards/status/413431400105123840[/tweet]

welp

typical. Lol.




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Post#313 » by GeeWiz » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:41 pm

Nivek wrote:Nah -- I'm not suggesting Porter NEEDS to add weight. I don't think that's the case at all, unless he's going to be a full-time PF. I think he needs to get stronger. As he does that, his weight will probably go up a little.

And yeah, I know he was sold a bit as "NBA ready." I never really bought that, in part because few 19-20 year olds are TRULY NBA ready. I think he'll have a good career, though.


Otto is barely 200 pounds at 6-8. He needs weight just to play SF, forget PF.


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Post#314 » by hands11 » Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:56 pm

nuposse04 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WashWizards/status/413431400105123840[/tweet]

welp

typical. Lol.




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Post#315 » by mohammed10 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:38 pm

nuposse04 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WashWizards/status/413431400105123840[/tweet]

welp

typical. Lol.




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Post#316 » by AFM » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:41 pm

He fractured his wrist celebrating. Wow.
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Post#317 » by mohammed10 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:46 pm

AFM wrote:He fractured his wrist celebrating. Wow.


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Post#318 » by Nivek » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:23 pm

I'm reminded of Magic Johnson sprinting across the court to hug Kareem after the Big Fella sky-hooked a buzzer beater to win Magic's NBA debut. Later, in the locker room after Magic had calmed down, (as Magic told the story), Kareem came over and said to him, "Earvin...we have 81 more games."
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Post#319 » by hands11 » Fri Dec 20, 2013 8:01 am

http://www.csnwashington.com/basketball ... unbearable

Seems the wrist had been hurting before the game. Whatever happened in the celebration was just the tipping point.

Lets hope that had something to do with him not shooting that well.

"He went into Monday's game at the New York Knicks with soreness in the wrist and he didn't play."

" It had been hurting before the game. It just got to the point afterward where I said, 'This is all I can take.' It got tender right after the game. Walking back to the locker room I realized its a little bit more pain than usual."
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Post#320 » by MarcoPolo » Mon Jan 20, 2014 4:51 pm

OFFICIAL: WIZARDS ASSIGN GLEN RICE TO IOWA ENERGY

Posted on January 20, 2014
WASHINGTON, D.C. - Washington Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld announced today that guard Glen Rice has been assigned to the Iowa Energy of the NBA Development League.

Rice has appeared in 11 games, including one start, this season for Washington while averaging 2.9 points in 10 minutes per game. He was recently cleared to resume all basketball activities following surgery to repair a fracture in his right wrist on December 17.

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