GT #51: Wizards @ Grizzlies 8 PM CSN

[nuposse04]

I'm irritated with Wall, but he just had an honest post game interview. No excuses. Give him props for that.

This is why I'm annoyed. He ALWAYS says the "right things" but doesn't act on em. He gets shown up FAR too often by "lesser" PGs. He's allowed to have bad shooting games but he isn't a 20 year ol rookie or anything he can't let it abuse his entire game. Until he consistently acts upon the things he says, he's a fake leader just covering his ass. Jamison was a helluva leader too but we all know he was one of the reasons weren't going anywhere. John needs to actually care about the things he's saying, because these "wtf" moments are happening far too often for a guy who will be making max money.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

80sballboy wrote:

You're a f-ing moron. You really think Randy wanted Wall to fumble the ball and dribble it around for 10 seconds and launch a 25 foot 3? Sure that was the play drawn up.

Take a long freaking hike, buddy. I apologize for my ignorance, I was watching from ESPN's Gamecast.

[hands11]

I'd take George Karl or Hollins tbh. Anyone but randy. Dude is gutless. Wall never should have been allowed back in. Doesn't help that Randy also promotes one of the more "special" NBA offenses out there.

Exactly. Wall should have never returned from the bench once he went out and they started playing better.

What was the reason to put him back in. If its not broken, don't change it.

I believe temple was getting beaten by Nick at that point, so we were down already...but at least Temple played like he gave a damn.

Nights where wall plays with LBJ's intensity are awesome.

Tonight he exuded D-Wade level mid-season intensity....which is turrible.

Your are talking about the last two possessions where Temple went over the pick and couldn't get back in front of his. Nick Calathes on one play got in front of him and then literally back up into Temple to keep him back and then hit a floater. Its was a great play by Nick Calathes. Temple would have need help from a big that was in front to stop that.

But the Wizards did still have the lead I believe. I think they had just missed two 3 balls. Beal missed one and I think Temple from the right corner. But they were still balling. Momentum hadn't turned or anything. Your not going to make every shot.

[Illmatic21]

I fear Lin may go off on Wall again!!!

As if that wasn't already a given. Lin loves playing Wall. Only thing I'm wondering is will Beverly get in on the action as well

Houston is a notorious party town too..

Of course, lol. This guy is not even remotely worried about his NBA team right now

[jeffsays]

Of course, lol. This guy is not even remotely worried about his NBA team right now

Yep, it seems like he could care less about these last two games. I can understand if your shot isn't falling, but don't get your ass kicked by a backup point guard.

[Kanyewest]

Wall blew this game. I don't know whether it is mental or lack of respect for opponents every game but Wall doesn't bring it every game.

[TGW]

This team is so lame...I wish we could just go into next season with a new GM, coach, Wall, Beal, and Porter. Everyone else can kick rocks.

[queridiculo]

Plenty of blame to go around, the pin this all on Wall when he's been the lone bright spot in those irritating losses more often than not is a bit asinine.

This team just isn't very good.

Nene with 4 boards in 36 minutes? Not acceptable. Neither is Websters 3 points in 22, or the fact that our bench combined for 10 points in 75 minutes.

You want to pin the blame on somebody, look no further than the GM that went all in for this mediocre collection of players.

[TheBabyMaker]

This team is so lame...I wish we could just go into next season with a new GM, coach, Wall, Beal, and Porter. Everyone else can kick rocks.

Would they be any better?? its not like they are going to spend the $$ on a GM, Coach or any better players. Welcome to D.C. land of mediocre in sports. Wall and Beal are not going very far with their immaturity. Wall was not very smart in a winnable game tonight. SMFH

[TGW]

This team is so lame...I wish we could just go into next season with a new GM, coach, Wall, Beal, and Porter. Everyone else can kick rocks.

Would they be any better?? its not like they are going to spend the $$ on a GM, Coach or any better players. Welcome to D.C. land of mediocre in sports. Wall and Beal are not going very far with their immaturity.

I'm just salvaging what's worth salvaging. Wall, Beal, and Porter are certainly not superstars, but at least there's hope of them improving under a new regime. I have no hope for any other player on this team improving.

[DANNYLANDOVER]

Plenty of blame to go around, the pin this all on Wall when he's been the lone bright spot in those irritating losses more often than not is a bit asinine.

This team just isn't very good.

Nene with 4 boards in 36 minutes? Not acceptable. Neither is Websters 3 points in 22, or the fact that our bench combined for 10 points in 75 minutes.

You want to pin the blame on somebody, look no further than the GM that went all in for this mediocre collection of players.

PREACH!

[hands11]

Of course, lol. This guy is not even remotely worried about his NBA team right now

Yep, it seems like he could care less about these last two games. I can understand if your shot isn't falling, but don't get your ass kicked by a backup point guard.

First year NBA player at 25. That was his 5th start.

Mike Conley makes $7,900,000
Nick Calathes makes $490,180

I'm telling you. I never liked paying a PG more then 13M but with the new CBA, that going to probably be even more true. Lots of productive PG out there making that or less. You need to spend your money else where like a stud SG/SF, SF/PF, PF/C or C PG is the last place I would spend 15M plus. Besides, the really good ones always seem to get injured. CP3, D Rose. Just not a sounds way to build a team in my book. Not when a player like Parker makes only $12,500,000 and Rondo 12,000,000.

[hands11]

Wall blew this game. I don't know whether it is mental or lack of respect for opponents every game but Wall doesn't bring it every game.

Its almost like he doesn't know what to do when Beals get hot.

TA or Webster being hot doesn't seem to affect him.
He was the same way with Crawford. If Crawford played well, Wall didn't.

What the last team what won a titles with their two best players being the PG and SG ?

[Kanyewest]

Wall blew this game. I don't know whether it is mental or lack of respect for opponents every game but Wall doesn't bring it every game.

Its almost like he doesn't know what to do when Beals get hot.

TA or Webster being hot doesn't seem to affect him.
He was the same way with Crawford. If Crawford played well, Wall didn't.

What the last team what won a titles with their two best players being the PG and SG ?

It seemed like Wall had bad shot selection- to me, it seemed like he was trying to match Beal by shooting 3s; unfortunately he didn't make any of them.

[JWizmentality]

You know what our problem is? We have no more lunch pale players. Nobody who brings it every night on a consistent basis. Gone are the Antonio Daniels and James Singletons. Sure Nene is a decent player, but can't rebound, can't make a layup and his FT line adventures are a thing of legend. And is it just me or do most of our close games seem to hinge on Nene FTs?

Gortwat is the most undeserving player of a menacing nickname I've ever seen. He's softer than a wet tampon, and yes I say tampon because he should only be referenced under all things pu$$Y.

Ariza is streaky as hell, he's either on or off, and Beal is in the same boat, but it seems someone has duct taped his switch to off. Try to yank that sucker too hard and he breaks!

Then we have Wallstar, our fearless leader whose jumpshot really hasn't gotten that much better, except in his own mind and refuses to use his best ability to his advantage.

I should mention the coach but we don't have one, and the bench is about as useful as tits on a chicken. Then we have the grandmaster architect of this super treadmill. Ernie G who now is stuck with trading away assets to clean up his own sh*t stain!

WTF freakin Maynor man....Maynor!!!! I'm soooo mofo tired of getting butt f*cked by players making less than half of his salary!!!

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[Youheardme90]

You know what our problem is? We have no more lunch pale players. Nobody who brings it every night on a consistent basis. Gone are the Antonio Daniels and James Singletons. Sure Nene is a decent player, but can't rebound, can't make a layup and his FT line adventures are a thing of legend. And is it just me or do most of our close games seem to hinge on Nene FTs?

Gortwat is the most undeserving player of a menacing nickname I've ever seen. He's softer than a wet tampon, and yes I say tampon because he should only be referenced under all things pu$$Y.

Ariza is streaky as hell, he's either on or off, and Beal is in the same boat, but it seems someone has duct taped his switch to off. Try to yank that sucker too hard and he breaks!

Then we have Wallstar, our fearless leader whose jumpshot really hasn't gotten that much better, except in his own mind and refuses to use his best ability to his advantage.

I should mention the coach but we don't have one, and the bench is about as useful as tits on a chicken. Then we have the grandmaster architect of this super treadmill. Ernie G who now is stuck with trading away assets to clean up his own sh*t stain!

WTF freakin Maynor man....Maynor!!!! I'm soooo mofo tired of getting butt f*cked by players making less than half of his salary!!!

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Why you no complain when we beat Thunder and Trail Blazers ?

[Dat2U]

I'm looking at the game now on replay and I swear I'm not seeing what others are seeing. Grizz game planned beautifully against Wall. They took away everything from him. He had no room whatsoever to operate as Marc Gasol was in mid-season form. The way Gasol was keying on him it was almost like they were playing a box and 1. Game would have been a complete blowout if not for Beal playing out of his mind. He was the biggest reason the game was even close, second being the Grizzlies offensive meltdown most of the 4th... Gortat's foul trouble was a killer, especially the 2nd quarter. Seraphin is such a downgrade on both sides of the court, one Calathes drive on Wall led to an easy two because Seraphin didn't show at all on the pick & roll. I also thought Wittman had no real answer offensively to Grizz basically daring the Wizards to beat them from deep without the drive and kick option and the lack of a legit pick & roll with Gortat saddled with foul problems.

Nights like tonight I can really see the coaching difference.

I'm not seeing the questionable effort from Wall others are seeing. Wall looks completely out of sorts. A mix of passivity after he realizes he isn't getting in the paint and awkwardly forcing the issue when he feels he hasn't done enough. I chalk it up to a bad stretch. Defensively, it's all about falling back into poor habits (bad positioning & not moving his feet) as he's done often this year rather than taking someone lightly or being hungover (which would be hard since it was a travel day).

[Dat2U]

Wall blew this game. I don't know whether it is mental or lack of respect for opponents every game but Wall doesn't bring it every game.

Its almost like he doesn't know what to do when Beals get hot.

TA or Webster being hot doesn't seem to affect him.
He was the same way with Crawford. If Crawford played well, Wall didn't.

What the last team what won a titles with their two best players being the PG and SG ?

Detroit Pistons.

[dlts20]

I'm looking at the game now on replay and I swear I'm not seeing what others are seeing. Grizz game planned beautifully against Wall. They took away everything from him. He had no room whatsoever to operate as Marc Gasol was in mid-season form. The way Gasol was keying on him it was almost like they were playing a box and 1. Game would have been a complete blowout if not for Beal playing out of his mind. He was the biggest reason the game was even close, second being the Grizzlies offensive meltdown most of the 4th... Gortat's foul trouble was a killer, especially the 2nd quarter. Seraphin is such a downgrade on both sides of the court, one Calathes drive on Wall led to an easy two because Seraphin didn't show at all on the pick & roll. I also thought Wittman had no real answer offensively to Grizz basically daring the Wizards to beat them from deep without the drive and kick option and the lack of a legit pick & roll with Gortat saddled with foul problems.

Nights like tonight I can really see the coaching difference.

I'm not seeing the questionable effort from Wall others are seeing. Wall looks completely out of sorts. A mix of passivity after he realizes he isn't getting in the paint and awkwardly forcing the issue when he feels he hasn't done enough. I chalk it up to a bad stretch. Defensively, it's all about falling back into poor habits (bad positioning & not moving his feet) as he's done often this year rather than taking someone lightly or being hungover (which would be hard since it was a travel day).

I didnt get to see it but your comments make me feel bettter about Wall

[Illmatic21]

Wall blew this game. I don't know whether it is mental or lack of respect for opponents every game but Wall doesn't bring it every game.

Its almost like he doesn't know what to do when Beals get hot.

TA or Webster being hot doesn't seem to affect him.
He was the same way with Crawford. If Crawford played well, Wall didn't.

What the last team what won a titles with their two best players being the PG and SG ?

Detroit Pistons.

IMO Ben Wallace was their MVP in that title run, or at least 1b to Billups. He was like prime Rodman on steroids.. possibly literally

If the Wiz had prime Wall/Beal/top 10 pf/Ben Wallace + depth, that's a team that would contend imo. The key is finding that transcendent player to add to Wall and Beal. Whether it's a scorer (ie Durant) or a dominant defensive anchor/rebounder (like Wallace)