Otto Porter Part 2

[80sballboy]

Put on 10 more pounds, work on ball handling, free throw shooting and three-point shot and he'll be ok.

[dckingsfan]

Put on 10 more pounds, work on ball handling, free throw shooting and three-point shot and he'll be ok.

I think he is going to be okay regardless - especially with 10lbs of muscle (which is very reasonable for his frame). I think it was the passivity that he was playing with that was causing him problems. Doubt that will be the case in training camp next year.

[popper]

This is promising.

Porter, James and Leonard are the only players in NBA history under the age of 22 to average 10 points, 8 rebounds and at least one three pointer per game during the playoffs in NBA history, according to Basketball-Reference's Play Index.

[Pitbull]

This is promising.

Porter, James and Leonard are the only players in NBA history under the age of 22 to average 10 points, 8 rebounds and at least one three pointer per game during the playoffs in NBA history, according to Basketball-Reference's Play Index.

Great stat, but I think we should be careful extrapolating things like this into anything predictive or meaningful. I'm pretty sure we can find stats to link just about anyone to great players if we look hard enough.

Having said that, Otto's performance this post-season was really encouraging.

[Higga]

You don't really need stats though, if you watched him play. He was aggressive, tough, and all over the court. He was an impact player. Now he's gotta build on that going into next year where he'll have more of a spotlight on him. He won't be catching anyone off guard in 2016...

[hands11]

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&CF=MIN*GE*25&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs

22 years old. Youngest on the list. I filtered at 25 mins to get to the more core players.

That puts him 8th in net efficiency.

Now his usage was kind of low.. 13.8 but what do you expect from his first playoffs at 22 in his first real season getting minutes and with Wall, Beal, Paul, Nene and Gortat out there in those playoffs?

Very promising.

I wonder how far he can get his handles over the offseason. Not like has bad handles but if he can add a slashing game and ramp up his assists, then things could get real interesting.

[Hidden Eye]

http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/advanced/?sort=NET_RATING&dir=1&CF=MIN*GE*25&Season=2014-15&SeasonType=Playoffs

22 years old. Youngest on the list. I filtered at 25 mins to get to the more core players.

That puts him 8th in net efficiency.

Now his usage was kind of low.. 13.8 but what do you expect from his first playoffs at 22 with Wall, Beal, Paul, Nene and Gortat out there ?

Very promising.

I wonder how far he can get his handles over the offseason. Not like has bad handles but if he can add a slashing game and ramp up his assists, then things could get real interesting.

I wouldn't expect much like him crossing up big time players.. that's years away for him.

[keynote]

His handles aren't the issue; it's his relatively low first step. He will always be a...methodical penetrator. He'll make his money on step backs, footwork, and feints, not on blowing by folks off the dribble. In that respect, Pierce is an ideal mentor.

[keynote]

I've seen reports that the Greek Freak has bulked up this summer. I hope Otto is following suit.

But man, those legs though.

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I guess if Tyson Chandler can get away with it...

[krii]

by the way on the right side on this boat there is Przemek Karnowski (Gonzaga, next year in draft). he, Kyle Wiltjer and Sabonis will be massive this upcoming NCAA season ^^

[Illmatic12]

Otto talked about as a breakout candidate next season

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2015/08/05/blogtable-second-or-third-year-player-ready-to-rise-the-ranks/

Steve Aschburner, NBA.com: Magic forward Aaron Gordon generated some buzz with his improved play, particularly his shooting range, in the Orlando summer league. But I’m going with Washington’s Otto Porter. Heading into his third season, Porter is a strong candidate to more than double his averages so far – 4.7 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 15.8 mpg – because he did it in the Wizards’ small, 10-playoff-game sample size in spring. In a significant turnaround, the slender forward averaged 10.8 points and 8.0 rebounds in the postseason. And Washington was 10.7 points per 100 possessions better than the opposition with Porter on the floor vs. 8.7 worse when he was off. His opportunities will only increase with Paul Pierce‘s departure and frankly, it’s time.

Fran Blinebury, NBA.com: Otto Porter. He came up strong when coach Randy Wittman finally let him off the leash in the playoffs. With more minutes next season, he’s ready to shine.

John Schuhmann, NBA.com: Otto Porter was out of the Wizards’ rotation in late March, but played a big role in the Wizards’ offensive reinvention in the playoffs, while also slowing down DeMar DeRozan on the other end of the floor. Porter should be Washington’s starting small forward and part of a more dynamic offense this season. If he can shoot 3-pointers, John Wall can turn him into the next Trevor Ariza.

[dckingsfan]

Thanks Illmatic12 - and frankly, Otto has to breakout for us to stay where we were at last year or improve. I think this is where the Dudley injury hurts us... not having those sold 15 minutes behind Porter. Guess Anderson has to play that role.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

While it doesn't say everything, just quickly looking throw Porter's Instagram he seems like a pretty good guy.

[nate33]

Thanks Illmatic12 - and frankly, Otto has to breakout for us to stay where we were at last year or improve. I think this is where the Dudley injury hurts us... not having those sold 15 minutes behind Porter. Guess Anderson has to play that role.

Anderson should be just fine in that role. There's no reason at all he can't play 15 minutes at SF plus a few more minutes at SG.

The main issue with Dudley being out is that we won't be able to go small and put 4 ball-handling wings around Gortat. We'll hopefully still have options to spread the floor with Gooden and Humphries shooting 3's, but those guys can't put the ball on the floor and make decisions.

[dckingsfan]

Thanks Illmatic12 - and frankly, Otto has to breakout for us to stay where we were at last year or improve. I think this is where the Dudley injury hurts us... not having those sold 15 minutes behind Porter. Guess Anderson has to play that role.

Anderson should be just fine in that role. There's no reason at all he can't play 15 minutes at SF plus a few more minutes at SG.

The main issue with Dudley being out is that we won't be able to go small and put 4 ball-handling wings around Gortat. We'll hopefully still have options to spread the floor with Gooden and Humphries shooting 3's, but those guys can't put the ball on the floor and make decisions.

I think that is the part that those that can put the ball on the floor enable. But I think that just by having someone at the 3 point line vs. FT line makes a huge difference. I think that a good passer from the 3pt line is nearly as valuable as someone that can put the ball on the floor - but I have no metrics for that...

[nate33]

Thanks Illmatic12 - and frankly, Otto has to breakout for us to stay where we were at last year or improve. I think this is where the Dudley injury hurts us... not having those sold 15 minutes behind Porter. Guess Anderson has to play that role.

Anderson should be just fine in that role. There's no reason at all he can't play 15 minutes at SF plus a few more minutes at SG.

The main issue with Dudley being out is that we won't be able to go small and put 4 ball-handling wings around Gortat. We'll hopefully still have options to spread the floor with Gooden and Humphries shooting 3's, but those guys can't put the ball on the floor and make decisions.

I think that is the part that those that can put the ball on the floor enable. But I think that just by having someone at the 3 point line vs. FT line makes a huge difference. I think that a good passer from the 3pt line is nearly as valuable as someone that can put the ball on the floor - but I have no metrics for that...

I agree. It's still a very good thing if Gooden and Humphries can step out and knock down 3 pointers. I'm just saying that teams will be able counter by going small and putting a SF on them. Normally, that plays into our hands because we would gladly bench Gooden/Humphries and bring in Dudley off the bench to match up. If teams want to play small ball, our wing depth is better than the wing depth on most teams. But without Dudley, we lose some of those advantages. We will have to count on Webster or Oubre more.

[nuposse04]

Thanks Illmatic12 - and frankly, Otto has to breakout for us to stay where we were at last year or improve. I think this is where the Dudley injury hurts us... not having those sold 15 minutes behind Porter. Guess Anderson has to play that role.

Anderson should be just fine in that role. There's no reason at all he can't play 15 minutes at SF plus a few more minutes at SG.

The main issue with Dudley being out is that we won't be able to go small and put 4 ball-handling wings around Gortat. We'll hopefully still have options to spread the floor with Gooden and Humphries shooting 3's, but those guys can't put the ball on the floor and make decisions.

If I recall correctly Anderson has a superior standing reach to Jared...I'm not sure which one of the two is more strong, but physically, I'd imagine he is at least in Jared's ballpark of being able to play S4. Although neither are ideal IMO given their putrid rebounding.

Our best hope is still for Porter to add 20 lbs over the next two season. It would allow for a more simple game for Anderson/Jared and also I think Porter's PLAYMAKING at the 4 could be rather useful. The guy passes pretty well. I'm holdin out hope he comes to camp around 215 lbs.

[Illmatic12]

Thanks Illmatic12 - and frankly, Otto has to breakout for us to stay where we were at last year or improve. I think this is where the Dudley injury hurts us... not having those sold 15 minutes behind Porter. Guess Anderson has to play that role.

I don't believe Otto was nearly as bad as his stats looked last regular season, he just wasn't being played consistently. In most of the games where he got a solid stint on the court (WITH John and the starters) he produced like a starter per minute.

Even though it may look like he has to make a 'massive' breakout or double his statistical output, I don't think it's actually that big of a leap for him. Porter has a 20-30+ sample size of games last season showing that when he plays *with the starters* for 30+mpg, he can give you about 11ppg/7rpg on efficient shooting and active defense. I'm not too worried about Otto or the SF rotation (PF/C is the bigger question)



Also.. during our losing streak last season we lost several games seemingly due to having Temple in the starting lineup, who garners as much defensive attention as a folding chair. The Beal loss may not have looked so bad at the time (not like he was having an All-Star season) but without his floor spacing threat, our offense ground to a halt.

Brad said this summer he's been working with trainers on a regiment to strengthen his legs, so hopefully we can finally see a full season from the kid. However if he does go down, we could then start Anderson with Neal off the bench and still be fine offensively. It's nice to know that no matter what, Wall will always have a good complement of shooters around him.

[Higga]

Thanks Illmatic12 - and frankly, Otto has to breakout for us to stay where we were at last year or improve. I think this is where the Dudley injury hurts us... not having those sold 15 minutes behind Porter. Guess Anderson has to play that role.

I don't believe Otto was nearly as bad as his stats looked last regular season, he just wasn't being played consistently. In most of the games where he got a solid stint on the court (WITH John and the starters) he produced like a starter per minute.

Even though it may look like he has to make a 'massive' breakout or double his statistical output, I don't think it's actually that big of a leap for him. Porter has a 20-30+ sample size of games last season showing that when he plays *with the starters* for 30+mpg, he can give you about 11ppg/7rpg on efficient shooting and active defense. I'm not too worried about Otto or the SF rotation (PF/C is the bigger question)

This is how I feel as well. Always seemed like when Porter got regular minutes, he played well.

If we get the Porter that played in the playoffs, and see some improvement/development in some areas in his game, he's gonna be a damn good #3 option.

[Illmatic12]

Seems to be just a snippet from a longer interview, so not much here. But from the sounds of it Otto is anticipating seeing minutes at the 4:


https://soundcloud.com/siriusxmnba/otto-porter-jr-goes-off-the-dribble-on-his-role-expectations-for-wizards-best-backcourt-in-nba