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NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4

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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#301 » by FAH1223 » Wed May 10, 2017 4:43 am

Mojo Amok wrote:Also worth noting - Gortat is at a whole 'nother stratosphere from LaMarcus Aldridge who has regressed into 1990's style ug'ball. Just all these mechanical museum-piece postups that ALWAYS go to his right and achieve nothing beyond cringes and poignant Vitaly Potapenko remembrances.

Grass ain't always greener.


LMA is avoiding contact with these little guys guarding him.

He's playing SOFT.
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#302 » by FAH1223 » Wed May 10, 2017 4:44 am

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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#303 » by nate33 » Wed May 10, 2017 2:07 pm

How about Jonathon Simmons as a low level free agent acquisition? He's not much of a shooter but he can D up.
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#304 » by Mojo Amok » Wed May 10, 2017 2:14 pm

I couldn't resist plugging in Marcin versus LaMarcus after watching all those musty post-ups last night:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.fcgi?request=1&sum=0&player_id1_hint=Marcin+Gortat&player_id1_select=Marcin+Gortat&y1=2017&player_id1=gortama01&player_id2_hint=LaMarcus+Aldridge&player_id2_select=LaMarcus+Aldridge&y2=2017&player_id2=aldrila01

It would actually be skewed further towards Gortat if you accounted his screen assists with his turnovers, which very much equate with additional high percentage scoring opportunities (PER36: 7.1 screen assists for Gortat and 2.8 for Aldridge).

From an overall team offense standpoint, Marcin's screening and rolling is just so much more conducive to flow than LA clear-outs on the right block too. Those are really just throwaway possessions.

The main point isn't that Gortat is amazing, but more that the reality of LaMarcus is well down from where it was at a few years ago.
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#305 » by Mojo Amok » Wed May 10, 2017 2:17 pm

nate33 wrote:How about Jonathon Simmons as a low level free agent acquisition? He's not much of a shooter but he can D up.


He's definitely stood out in these playoffs and positioned himself to get paid. In addition to his defense, he's got a respectable driving game and was shooting it pretty well within the small sample size theater of the playoffs before clanging a bunch last night.

However, I suspect he might get overpaid now and will sign with a team that could offer him a bigger role.

I'd be all in at the right price point, though.
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#306 » by I_Like_Dirt » Thu May 11, 2017 2:36 pm

I think Jonothan Simmons is going to get paid like any number of Spurs utility players, and he won't be worth the money when he does because it's much easier for him to do what he does when he has a team around him operating like the Spurs do. The Pistons seem to enjoy paying those kinds of contracts, as they did with Baynes and Boban. Cory Joseph has been alright for the Raptors but not exactly an amazing player or a super bargain or anything, and the Spurs only let him go because they were able to sign Aldridge and couldn't keep his cap hold to keep him restricted.

Simmons wouldn't be a Nicholson level signing or anything, but I doubt he works out brilliantly for any team that picks him up. He turns 28 this offseason, so if you give him 4 years, you're getting him until he's 32. He's the kind of guy teams really should be looking to develop for themselves on the cheap rather paying after they prove themselves. The league is littered with buyers remorse on contracts to those kinds of players in restricted free agency. I don't think he'll come cheap. Too many teams aren't going to have cap space and will have their MLE instead, and that MLE seems a likely place for his contract to fall. No disrespect to what he's done, though, because he's a very good player and absolutely representative of why the Spurs just keep on winning.
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#307 » by FAH1223 » Fri May 12, 2017 1:30 am

No Kawhi

And the Rockets pull this shyt at home?
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#308 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri May 12, 2017 2:22 am

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Post#309 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri May 12, 2017 2:57 am

But...the Rockets had Lou Williams. :)

Seriously, will and style of play for playoffs favor SA.

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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#310 » by FAH1223 » Fri May 12, 2017 5:17 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:But...the Rockets had Lou Williams. :)

Seriously, will and style of play for playoffs favor SA.

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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#311 » by Rafael122 » Fri May 12, 2017 1:09 pm

nate33 wrote:How about Jonathon Simmons as a low level free agent acquisition? He's not much of a shooter but he can D up.


Nah man he's not low level, he's going to get the MLE from someone and it's going to be an overpay. But good for him though, he's been everywhere and is finally going to get paid.

Pop is a genius. He rested Kawhi, worse case scenario it goes to Game 7 but he gets Kawhi back and it's at home. Instead they blow Houston out, advance and get Kawhi back after getting essentially 4 days off.
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#312 » by FAH1223 » Fri May 12, 2017 1:55 pm

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nate33 wrote:How about Jonathon Simmons as a low level free agent acquisition? He's not much of a shooter but he can D up.


Nah man he's not low level, he's going to get the MLE from someone and it's going to be an overpay. But good for him though, he's been everywhere and is finally going to get paid.

Pop is a genius. He rested Kawhi, worse case scenario it goes to Game 7 but he gets Kawhi back and it's at home. Instead they blow Houston out, advance and get Kawhi back after getting essentially 4 days off.

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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#313 » by FAH1223 » Sun May 14, 2017 8:21 pm

Wow at the Spurs
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Post#314 » by Tricky_Kid » Sun May 14, 2017 8:46 pm

FAH1223 wrote:Wow at the Spurs

Great for NBA if this super team lose to Spurs. Kawhi is fantastic!
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#315 » by closg00 » Sun May 14, 2017 8:53 pm

Yup, Go Spurs, I am enjoying this immensely. GSW will no-doubt bounce-back though
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#316 » by Tricky_Kid » Sun May 14, 2017 9:23 pm

Pachulia dirty move like Horford eliminated Kawhi from the game.

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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#317 » by FAH1223 » Sun May 14, 2017 10:16 pm

closg00 wrote:Yup, Go Spurs, I am enjoying this immensely. GSW will no-doubt bounce-back though


They only came back cause Kawhi got hurt

I feel cheated as a basketball fan with Zaza doing that dirty play to sprain Kawhi's ankle
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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#318 » by AFM » Sun May 14, 2017 10:23 pm

THats the Olynyk special

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Re: NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 4 

Post#319 » by ClutchDJ » Sun May 14, 2017 10:29 pm

God I hate watching Aldridge play basketball.

Dude takes so many unecessary fadeaway regardless of who's guarding him.
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Post#320 » by closg00 » Sun May 14, 2017 10:31 pm

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