Official Countdown Grunfeld Era-2nd SuperStar?

[JonathanJoseph]

Even worse, I have a bad feeling that Ted hasn't even given much thought to firing Ernie. That's surely just me being pessimistic, right?

Ted spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the franchise. I'm sure he has given thought to who he wants to run it.

Grunfeld's contract is up. Until I hear otherwise, I think it's a safe assumption that Grunfeld will not be signed to another contract.

If he's not going to be back why wait until after the trade deadline to get rid of him? It totally wastes the opportunity to set the deck for the off-season.

Perhaps because Ted has his eye on someone he can't get mid season? Someone who's going to come in isn't going to make trades in his first week/month.

I'm willing to bet that Grunfeld has orders not to take on any salary/commitments and to unload any knuckleheads possible. Ted is going to give Vesely, Singleton, Mack, Booker and Seraphin until the end of the season to show their worth as those are Grunfeld's pieces (safe to assume Blatche, Young and McGee are already considered failures).

[closg00]

I suspect that if Ernie is fired, someone else in the Org will move-up and become GM and do our next draft for us. The staff is already doing the pre-draft scouting etc. Ted doesn't appear to be the type to stomach a full-scale house-cleaning.

[Rafael122]

I would guess Milt Newton will get the GM job. Isn't he highly regarded around the league?

[Ruzious]

I would guess Milt Newton will get the GM job. Isn't he highly regarded around the league?

I would go outside the organization - keeping in mind that the assistants were part of the front office that got the Wiz in the situation they're in. Also, I think it's important to get someone who's not tied to any of the decisions the Wiz have made - so they won't have any biases in moving forward.

[closg00]

I would guess Milt Newton will get the GM job. Isn't he highly regarded around the league?

I would go outside the organization - keeping in mind that the assistants were part of the front office that got the Wiz in the situation they're in. Also, I think it's important to get someone who's not tied to any of the decisions the Wiz have made - so they won't have any biases in moving forward.

And to that point, I read an article that stated that the Wiz FO was unanimous in their desire to draft Vesely, what does that tell you? The staff are all Grunfeld yes-men towing Ernie's line. Or they are all incredibly incompetent and all need to go. Off to find that article.

[closg00]

The decision to take Vesely was practically unanimous within the basketball operations side of the organization, with the Wizards enamored with the freakishly athletic 6-foot-11 forward who runs the floor and attacks the rim as if ignited by a fuse.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

Yep, the entire FO MUST-GO.

[tontoz]

The decision to take Vesely was practically unanimous within the basketball operations side of the organization, with the Wizards enamored with the freakishly athletic 6-foot-11 forward who runs the floor and attacks the rim as if ignited by a fuse.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

Yep, the entire FO MUST-GO.

Seriously it is just disgusting that these people have no grasp of the obvious.

[WizarDynasty]

i think the dramatic improvement of seraphin and booker means the EG keeps his job. EG really hit home runs last year and i was critic. Seraphin is starting to look really nice bball wise. Booker is a solid 6th man player. Booker and Seraphin are showing more potential than, Larry Sanders, Wes Johnson, Cole Aldrich, Xavier Henry, luke babbit, James Anderson, eric bledsoe, craig brackins and elliot Williams, Patrick Patterson, and Derrick Favors.
None of these players seems like solid 6th men and Booker has. Seraphin is definitely showing strong potential to be a two way 6th man bench player.

EG has built a very very strong bench that forms the basis of championship team. We need to bring in difference makers at the starting positions but if we keep building the basketball iq of our bench, we have 6th man bench players that establish hardworking working wizards culture.
Each of EG's bench players shows potential to be above average offensive and defensive players in terms of bench players.
In other words our bench will usually win their matchups each night. We usually will lose the battle at the staring sg, sf, and p/f spots each night but win center battle with mcgee and point guard battle with wall.
I think if EG micromanages Vesely, he can quickly and dramatically improve Vesely hand finger coordination with the basketball with tremendous results in a short period of time.

[closg00]

According to a basketball source, a number of teams have expressed interest in Bogut, who was an all-NBA third-team selection during the 2009-'10 season.

According to an ESPN report, the Washington Wizards were one of the teams to show an interest in Bogut.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/bucks/bo ... 66783.html

Please disappear Grunfeld

[hands11]

EG is not shopping McGee. He simply said he was willing to listen to offers.

[jivelikenice]

Gerald green....10/15 for 25 pts with 4 3's....not that we need a 2 guard Ernie!!!! Wake up

[7-Day Dray]

^^Typical EG to sit on his ass and not look for an upgrade. Well looking at the positive side of things, at least he's not hurting the tank.

[BanndNDC]

interesting tidbit on wizards insider that should add more fuel to the fire.

In 2009 EG turned down an OKC trade offer of the #3 for the #5 and McGee. Turning it down isnt the issue I have (though in hindsight it is still bad). Remember at the time it was projected that Rubio was going at 3 and Harden was going at 5. This tidbit makes clear that there were indications that OKC wasnt going to draft Rubio and he might have been available at 5.

If I remember correctly Mem was locked in on Thabeet and Sac on Evans already, so if OKC didnt take Rubio he was going to be there at 5 (as indeed it turned out). One of the rationalizations made at the time of the Miller/Foye for 5 trade was that Harden was nothing special (even his supporters (at least i can speak for myself) did not think he would be as good as he has been) and that it was a 2 man draft (Griffin and Rubio). If we couldnt get one of those two then trading for Miller wasnt that bad an idea. [the theory at the time being that Miller was roughly equal to Harden but more experienced and a known quantity] It was when Rubio lasted until 5 that the complaints really hit the fan (since the trade was predraft). What this shows is that there were indications Rubio might drop and yet EG still made the disastrous trade early wiping out all the potential rationalizations.

EG must be fired. he has failed at the management aspects of his job (the arenas/crittenton and thibodeau debacles) and the gm aspects. im not sure who i hate more, EG or Young.

[hands11]

I would guess Milt Newton will get the GM job. Isn't he highly regarded around the league?

I would go outside the organization - keeping in mind that the assistants were part of the front office that got the Wiz in the situation they're in. Also, I think it's important to get someone who's not tied to any of the decisions the Wiz have made - so they won't have any biases in moving forward.

Abe got them in the bind they are in. EG has been cleaning it up ever since Ted was in sight. Im not giving EG a pass on everything. I wanted a different draft last year. But resigning Gil and AJ and trading the 5th, that was under Abe and to Abe's liking. Win now before I pass on.

EG started to rebuild this team once. The problem was not cashing in on the acquired talent when they could have and going all in way to soon and with the wrong coach. That is all flavored with Abe.

They should have cashed in on Gil. I said it then and it turned out to be the right thing to do. They should have not resigned AJ for so much. He needed to be coming off the bench or not here.

Im not totally sold on EG. Every move is a new chance to see what he can really do. This trade deadline is one of those moments. He has made some good trades since doing to rebuild.

[closg00]

Interesting, why does it come-out now that OKC offered their #3 for our #5 + McGee?

[gesa2]

There's been a lot of talk about Faried and our draft choices in the Nene trade thread, but I thought it made sense to bring this thread back to page one for that discussion, since it's bigger than one trade. I don't mind the Nene trade, but Ernie's still gotta be accountable for past mistakes, and needs to go.

CCJ, thought I'd post a tweet that you'll like:

tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
Last 20 years, top rookie PER: Arvydas Sabonis 24.7, Shaquille O'Neal 22.9, Tim Duncan 22.6, Kenneth Faried 22.4

Sample size is pretty small still though.

[Knighthonor]

There's been a lot of talk about Faried and our draft choices in the Nene trade thread, but I thought it made sense to bring this thread back to page one for that discussion, since it's bigger than one trade. I don't mind the Nene trade, but Ernie's still gotta be accountable for past mistakes, and needs to go.

CCJ, thought I'd post a tweet that you'll like:

tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
Last 20 years, top rookie PER: Arvydas Sabonis 24.7, Shaquille O'Neal 22.9, Tim Duncan 22.6, Kenneth Faried 22.4

Sample size is pretty small still though.

I see a lot of talk about Faried around here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Faried

Did the Wizards have a chance to draft him or something? What happen? Cause it seems that many fans are unhappy about what happened.

[closg00]

What happened Knight? Jan Vesely is what happened

[Knighthonor]

What happened Knight? Jan Vesely is what happened

Omg! Please tell me you are trolling me. Please tell me you are!!!!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

There's been a lot of talk about Faried and our draft choices in the Nene trade thread, but I thought it made sense to bring this thread back to page one for that discussion, since it's bigger than one trade. I don't mind the Nene trade, but Ernie's still gotta be accountable for past mistakes, and needs to go.

CCJ, thought I'd post a tweet that you'll like:

tomhaberstroh Tom Haberstroh
Last 20 years, top rookie PER: Arvydas Sabonis 24.7, Shaquille O'Neal 22.9, Tim Duncan 22.6, Kenneth Faried 22.4

Sample size is pretty small still though.

Wow.

Before he was drafted, I did post something to the effect of, "Kenneth Faried based on college performance would project to have a HOF career".

First, he's got to play minutes under George Karl for that to happen. A whole lot of minutes at that performance level for, say, 15 years. If he can stay off the bench maybe he'll be okay.