John Wall is the best PG in the East right now

[hands11]

Looks like Wall back is feeling better

Wall Swats Shumpert

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... -wizknicks

Back to back 37 and 31 pts games.

11 FTAs in in the NY game.

[Knighthonor]

bench him!!! he will ruin the chance at getting Parker

[Brenice]

Just last week people were saying Beal as the best Wizard. I'm just saying

[Dark Faze]

I was never one of those guys, Beal is too inefficient right now to take the crown from Wall.

Still though, the way he's improved his handles in such a short amount of time is ridiculous. You almost never see guys improve their handles that much, especially jumpshooters. Beal literally couldn't do anything his rookie year other than shoot and attack the rim for an awkward floater or backboard layup his rookie year and he's added hesitation dribbles and separation moves this season.

If he can improve again in the off-season with his handles he'll be pretty unstoppable. Gotta work on his slashing as well though.

Wall? Wall have it all. Just gotta be consistent.

[stevemcqueen1]

John is shooting threes and shooting almost 86% from the FT line this year. Looks like he's made great strides as a shooter during the offseason.

If he improves his shot selection, keeps releasing his jumper at the high point instead of hesitating and releasing it on the way down, and continues to keep attacking the basket and get himself to the FT line like he did last year, then we should see some great results.

[theboomking]

Earlier in the season, I wasn't feeling upbeat about John turning around his performance this year. Looking at his FT% and 3Pt% however, it is entirely possible that his poor FG was the outlier and that he really is an improved shooter.

Edit: Wall's PER is back up to near 20 and is better than Kyrie's.

[stevemcqueen1]

I think his poor FG % was a poor shooting stretch exacerbated by his back bothering him. His mechanics were off on his jumper a lot of nights. Saw a lot of shots released on the way down and he was getting really poor results. And then he was limited to playing below the rim and really just wasn't attacking and getting into the paint. Plus the whole offense was out of rhythm and everyone was shooting poorly.

Wall's improvement the past two games is really encouraging because I think play like that is contagious and his teammates are starting to feed off it. Gortat and Webster got in on it last night. Gortat nailed a sick turnaround fade from the post and you could tell his confidence was off the charts. Even Temple and Vesely seemed to be playing with more confidence.

As to Wall being the best PG in the East, let's be honest, it's not a strong claim right now. Kyrie is his only true competition now. And Kyrie is in a similar situation with his team struggling. They're going to be the East's All Stars at PG and the only competition is which one gets the start.

Most of the good PGs are in the West now.

[DCZards]

As to Wall being the best PG in the East, let's be honest, it's not a strong claim right now. Kyrie is his only true competition now. And Kyrie is in a similar situation with his team struggling. They're going to be the East's All Stars at PG and the only competition is which one gets the start.

Most of the good PGs are in the West now.

Agree that Wall currently has little comp in the east for best PGs but don't agree on the best PGs being in the west. I'd rank these five EC point guards in the top 10 (when healthy): D. Williams, Rose, Rondo, Wall, Irving

And Jeff Teague may be on the verge of breaking into the top 10.

[pancakes3]

Williams is falling off a cliff fast. He's turning 30 next year, his stats are down across the board ever since leaving SLC and his organization is just a mess right now (GM and Coach). I think going forward Wall will perennially be better than Deron.

Irving... will probably bounce back but the steady decline his shooting percentages have taken since his rookie season is worrisome. Plus he's showing a track history of being frail. If Wall's shooting isn't just a statistical aberration I'd say the days of Wall/Irving being a coinflip are officially over and Wall has the edge.

As for the up and comers, Teague isn't good enough a shooter to overcome his lack of size and athleticism. Nor is he like Paul/Rondo who make the hard stuff look so easy. I'd say he's the East's version of Conley - a good not great pg. The real threat is MCW playing at a Penny-Hardaway-esque level.

As for Rose/Rondo unlike Williams, I can definitely see bouncing back. I think those two will be around Wall's level if not better for the next couple of seasons.

Whether or not Wall is in the top 3 in the East will depend on where Marcus Smart ends up.

[stevemcqueen1]

As to Wall being the best PG in the East, let's be honest, it's not a strong claim right now. Kyrie is his only true competition now. And Kyrie is in a similar situation with his team struggling. They're going to be the East's All Stars at PG and the only competition is which one gets the start.

Most of the good PGs are in the West now.

Agree that Wall currently has little comp in the east for best PGs but don't agree on the best PGs being in the west. I'd rank these five EC point guards in the top 10 (when healthy): D. Williams, Rose, Rondo, Wall, Irving

And Jeff Teague may be on the verge of breaking into the top 10.

Rose hasn't been healthy in a very long time, played like crap this season, and then tore his meniscus. He might never be good again, much less the player he once was.

Also Rondo hasn't played in almost a year and might never be the same again either.

DWill isn't a top ten PG any more. He's been awful this year and his team is majorly underachieving. He hasn't really been great since he left Utah actually.

Top ten PGs right now are probably:

- Paul
- Parker
- Curry
- Westbrook
- Lawson
- Lillard
- Conley
- Wall
- Irving
- Teague

7 out of 10 of those guys are in the West. And a lot of the good PGs in the West are young, including guys like Jrue Holiday and Ricky Rubio, who still have good potential.

But Wall's ceiling is still so much higher than most of those other guys. When he plays like he did the last two games, CP3 is the only PG that's better than him.

[Wizardspride]

Wall's impact on the game (Or Maynor's depending on how you look at it).


The Wizards score 105.4 points per 100 possessions when Wall on the court , meaning that they score as well as almost any team in the league with Wall running the show. When he sits, that number plummets to an atrocious 82. Despite his poor individual shooting, Wall's presence this season has essentially meant the difference between Washington having one of the best offenses in the NBA and one that would be lucky to crack 80 points on a nightly basis.

[nate33]

As to Wall being the best PG in the East, let's be honest, it's not a strong claim right now. Kyrie is his only true competition now. And Kyrie is in a similar situation with his team struggling. They're going to be the East's All Stars at PG and the only competition is which one gets the start.

Most of the good PGs are in the West now.

Agree that Wall currently has little comp in the east for best PGs but don't agree on the best PGs being in the west. I'd rank these five EC point guards in the top 10 (when healthy): D. Williams, Rose, Rondo, Wall, Irving

And Jeff Teague may be on the verge of breaking into the top 10.

Teague is coming back down to Earth after a hot start. He has made just 22 of his last 59 shots (37%) and his PER has dipped down to 19.6. On the season Wall now has a higher PER and ORtg than Teague.

Wall now leads all East PG's in PER.

[jeffsays]

When does all-star voting start and end? If Wall keeps this up he's a lock for starting PG.

[hands11]

I was never one of those guys, Beal is too inefficient right now to take the crown from Wall.

Still though, the way he's improved his handles in such a short amount of time is ridiculous. You almost never see guys improve their handles that much, especially jumpshooters. Beal literally couldn't do anything his rookie year other than shoot and attack the rim for an awkward floater or backboard layup his rookie year and he's added hesitation dribbles and separation moves this season.

If he can improve again in the off-season with his handles he'll be pretty unstoppable. Gotta work on his slashing as well though.

Wall? Wall have it all. Just gotta be consistent.

Wall has a few years of development on Beal so its not a fair comparison.

Beal has a much more developed shot and calmer mind.
Wall has the speed, handles and leaping ability.

Its a quality problem worrying which will be better. But for Beal to be able to take over on his own like Wall can, he will need much better handles. Maybe that comes in year three.

[hands11]

I think his poor FG % was a poor shooting stretch exacerbated by his back bothering him. His mechanics were off on his jumper a lot of nights. Saw a lot of shots released on the way down and he was getting really poor results. And then he was limited to playing below the rim and really just wasn't attacking and getting into the paint. Plus the whole offense was out of rhythm and everyone was shooting poorly.

Wall's improvement the past two games is really encouraging because I think play like that is contagious and his teammates are starting to feed off it. Gortat and Webster got in on it last night. Gortat nailed a sick turnaround fade from the post and you could tell his confidence was off the charts. Even Temple and Vesely seemed to be playing with more confidence.

As to Wall being the best PG in the East, let's be honest, it's not a strong claim right now. Kyrie is his only true competition now. And Kyrie is in a similar situation with his team struggling. They're going to be the East's All Stars at PG and the only competition is which one gets the start.

Most of the good PGs are in the West now.

This young man wants his name in the hat next year. Hard to see him making it his first year. Gotta get in line and get some name recognition.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/i ... r-williams

Plus Rondo will return soon. And don't forget Jeff Teague.

Not sure what Rose's future is though. That's to back about him.

Man, the West is loaded with PGs. Probably why the conference is so much better as a whole.

[deneem4]

Wall and beal are pure position players..

Wall is a point guard and point guard only, he does everything a pg should be able to do to perfection
Beal is a shooting guard sland shooting guard inly he does everything a sg should do to pefection as well

Which ever starts to cross over into the more of the other position skills is when they'll become elite players...if wall canplay like he has these last 2 games AND hsve those 9/10 assists he'll become an elite player..
If beal can play some pg, llearn some drrible moves and attack the basket more he'll become an elite player
, beal looks like he has more potential at his age because hes a shooting guard...being a pg is wayyy harder than bein a sg...I like both wall and beal...I feel they should learn from each other as much as possible...I think wall has confidence issues not ves like but more of I been touted as #1 option since I came here but im not a scorer...I see him continuing with strong play as long as nene shut the fck up and get out his way

[hands11]

As to Wall being the best PG in the East, let's be honest, it's not a strong claim right now. Kyrie is his only true competition now. And Kyrie is in a similar situation with his team struggling. They're going to be the East's All Stars at PG and the only competition is which one gets the start.

Most of the good PGs are in the West now.

Agree that Wall currently has little comp in the east for best PGs but don't agree on the best PGs being in the west. I'd rank these five EC point guards in the top 10 (when healthy): D. Williams, Rose, Rondo, Wall, Irving

And Jeff Teague may be on the verge of breaking into the top 10.

Teague is coming back down to Earth after a hot start. He has made just 22 of his last 59 shots (37%) and his PER has dipped down to 19.6. On the season Wall now has a higher PER and ORtg than Teague.

Wall now leads all East PG's in PER.

But to date, Teague has better pts, assists and FTA per 36 than Wall. But Wall has been playing with a bad back. Gotta see what Wall does if he can keep that back feeling good.

He has to get to 7 FTA, 20 pts, 8 assists per 36

Right now his is at 4.5 FTA, 17.7pts and 8.5 assists per 36 ...

the added FTAs should get him where he need to be at the top. Right now he is below players like Teague and Lawson. And don't count out Bledsoe. A few more assists per 36 and he is going to join the group.

[nate33]

Agree that Wall currently has little comp in the east for best PGs but don't agree on the best PGs being in the west. I'd rank these five EC point guards in the top 10 (when healthy): D. Williams, Rose, Rondo, Wall, Irving

And Jeff Teague may be on the verge of breaking into the top 10.

Teague is coming back down to Earth after a hot start. He has made just 22 of his last 59 shots (37%) and his PER has dipped down to 19.6. On the season Wall now has a higher PER and ORtg than Teague.

Wall now leads all East PG's in PER.

But to date, Teague has better pts, assists and FTA per 36 than Wall.

So what? And Wall has more rebounds, steals, blocks per 36 and makes twice as many 3's on roughly the same number of attempts. He also has a better DRtg.

My point is that Wall is now on the inside track to make the All Star Game. The backcourts in the East are really weak. The only player who is unquestionably putting up better numbers than Wall is Afflalo. And his production is WAY out of line relative to his career averages. I have doubts that such a "break out" by a 28 year old player is sustainable. He also plays for a team with an even worse record than ours.

[mhd]

Here is how the all-star team likely heads to:

Starters: (voted in)
PG: Irving
SG: Wade
SF: Lebron
PF: Bosh
C: Hibbert

Bench:
PG: Wall
SG: Afflalo
SF: George
PF: Horford
C: Hawes
Wildcard #1: Melo
Wildcard #2: Derozen

[dlts20]

the funny thing is that I think people look at Teague like he's a young guy who is on the come up and Wall as he's the vet that is just treading water but in reality Wall is the younger and has been in the league a lesser amount of time