Political Roundtable Part XXIX

Pointgod · Post #321 » by **Pointgod** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:43 am

FAH1223 · Post #322 » by **FAH1223** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:03 am

Since Bernie was brought up a few times

Post #323 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:44 am

And anyone watching who had any question about whether or not Trump is a racist: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/proud-boys-celebrate-trumps-stand-by-remark-about-them-at-the-debate/ar-BB19ytwS?li=BBnb7Kz

Most women adore their uncles. Not exactly the case with DJ Trump's niece. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mary-trump-calls-presidents-debate-performance-grotesque-and-a-complete-disgrace/ar-BB19yGG0?li=BBnbfcL

I_Like_Dirt · Post #324 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 12:42 pm

Pointgod wrote:
montestewart wrote:A crucial segment of undecided voters is white suburban women who hate when men interrupt.

Anyone who’s still an undecided voter is a **** moron. You have to have something seriously wrong with your brain to think that Trump is some kind of leader. Ask a someone question, would you trust Trump with the life of your kids?

It's not really undecided. There are two groups of undecideds at this point: those who are deciding to vote or not, and those who have always sort of known how they were going to vote but don't want to have to say it out loud (either Democrat in a Republican reality or a Republican who would rather not have to defend Trump and be known for it even though they agree with his takes).

I also suspect suburban white women might not be so bankable as people think. A lot of them fall into those Republicans who don't want to be known for it. Biden is closer to Trump in terms of image, though, so it brings the choices closer and more into focus at the same time; hopefully that's enough.

Sent from my SM-G970W using RealGM mobile app

doclinkin · Post #325 » by **doclinkin** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 2:23 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
montestewart wrote:A crucial segment of undecided voters is white suburban women who hate when men interrupt.

Anyone who’s still an undecided voter is a **** moron. You have to have something seriously wrong with your brain to think that Trump is some kind of leader. Ask a someone question, would you trust Trump with the life of your kids?
It's not really undecided. There are two groups of undecideds at this point: those who are deciding to vote or not,

I think this is the key. People who are just burned out on the whole and may find it easier to ignore Election Day and not show up. Trump's strategy is to try to increase the non-electorate, so that only diehards show up. And to make it frightening and difficult for people who are trying to show up. The fact that many people are home with free time to vote is dangerous to him, but frankly I think his handlers in Russia are banking on their ability to hack the vote and obscure the results. That only works if there is not an overwhelming surge that obliterates all question. If Trump can get people to feel fatigued and quit on the process, or give in to fear, of virus or unrest, then he keeps home all but the fanatic vote. He engenders fanatics on both sides though, and is relying on the SCOTUS to skew the results away from you know, democracy.

Post #326 » by **Zonkerbl** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:15 pm

"People who follow Trump's advice and hang around watching polling places will be prosecuted, Nevada's attorney general says"

https://www.businessinsider.com/nevada-attorney-general-prosecute-people-watching-polls-trump-suggestion-2020-9

Post #327 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:19 pm

This antifa stuff is the crux of a lot of the problem in dividing the country. Has there been any proof that an antifa group or even movement has been responsible for any violence in the US - even regardless of protests? Any violence at all in the US? Or has it all been used as an excuse to justify the existence of what supremesist groups that clearly do exist?

Post #328 » by **Zonkerbl** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 3:30 pm

https://www.findlaw.com/voting/how-do-i-protect-my-right-to-vote-/voter-intimidation--what-is-it-and-what-to-do.html

What Should You Do If You Have Experienced Voter Intimidation?

If you were intimidated or harassed while waiting in line to vote or while inside a polling station — or you observed other people being intimidated or harassed — you can call for immediate help.

First, notify a poll worker of the intimidation tactic you observed. Talk to the election supervisor or call your state Board of Elections to report the activity. You can also report it to the Elections Commissioner.
You can report intimidation to the Election Protection Hotline: 1-866-OUR-VOTE. To report in Spanish, call 1-888-VE-Y-VOTA.
You can also call the U.S. Department of Justice voting rights hotline at 1-800-253-3931.
You can report voter intimidation to your local police.
If you believe your voting rights were violated — or the rights of a specific group of people — speak to a civil rights lawyer in your area.

Post #329 » by **montestewart** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:02 pm

Ruzious wrote:This antifa stuff is the crux of a lot of the problem in dividing the country. Has there been any proof that an antifa group or even movement has been responsible for any violence in the US - even regardless of protests? Any violence at all in the US? Or has it all been used as an excuse to justify the existence of what supremesist groups that clearly do exist?

Oh, it exists, and Soros is behind it, there's plenty of evidence:

George Soros Bus Drivers Alliance and Recruiting Center

Know any goldbricking anarchists? Tell them to get a job:

Here's a bunch of antifa (cleverly disguised in non-black) getting on a Soros Antifa Riot Bus (note the backpacks weighed down with riot stuff):

Pointgod · Post #330 » by **Pointgod** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 4:44 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
montestewart wrote:A crucial segment of undecided voters is white suburban women who hate when men interrupt.

Anyone who’s still an undecided voter is a **** moron. You have to have something seriously wrong with your brain to think that Trump is some kind of leader. Ask a someone question, would you trust Trump with the life of your kids?
It's not really undecided. There are two groups of undecideds at this point: those who are deciding to vote or not, and those who have always sort of known how they were going to vote but don't want to have to say it out loud (either Democrat in a Republican reality or a Republican who would rather not have to defend Trump and be known for it even though they agree with his takes).

I also suspect suburban white women might not be so bankable as people think. A lot of them fall into those Republicans who don't want to be known for it. Biden is closer to Trump in terms of image, though, so it brings the choices closer and more into focus at the same time; hopefully that's enough.

Sent from my SM-G970W using RealGM mobile app

I don’t think that you’re wrong that there are undecided voters that are Republican voters that are looking for a reason to not vote for Trump. But here’s the thing. Let’s say 90% of people have already made up their mind and 10% are “undecided”. Trump has to win pretty much of the undecideds to beat Biden in most states. Well that **** unhinged performance didn’t win him any votes and if the debate turned people off from voting it helps Biden. Anecdotally I’ve seen undecided voters saying that the debate made Biden look slightly better. I don’t think any non Trump voter came out of that debate thinking “that’s a guy I want to see President!”

Post #331 » by **montestewart** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:07 pm

Pointgod wrote:
I_Like_Dirt wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Anyone who’s still an undecided voter is a **** moron. You have to have something seriously wrong with your brain to think that Trump is some kind of leader. Ask a someone question, would you trust Trump with the life of your kids?
It's not really undecided. There are two groups of undecideds at this point: those who are deciding to vote or not, and those who have always sort of known how they were going to vote but don't want to have to say it out loud (either Democrat in a Republican reality or a Republican who would rather not have to defend Trump and be known for it even though they agree with his takes).

I also suspect suburban white women might not be so bankable as people think. A lot of them fall into those Republicans who don't want to be known for it. Biden is closer to Trump in terms of image, though, so it brings the choices closer and more into focus at the same time; hopefully that's enough.

Sent from my SM-G970W using RealGM mobile app

I don’t think that you’re wrong that there are undecided voters that are Republican voters that are looking for a reason to not vote for Trump. But here’s the thing. Let’s say 90% of people have already made up their mind and 10% are “undecided”. Trump has to win pretty much of the undecideds to beat Biden in most states. Well that **** unhinged performance didn’t win him any votes and if the debate turned people off from voting it helps Biden. Anecdotally I’ve seen undecided voters saying that the debate made Biden look slightly better. I don’t think any non Trump voter came out of that debate thinking “that’s a guy I want to see President!”

I have contact with a lot of Republicans (some now former Republicans), maybe more than a lot of people in my area, which definitely leans to the left. I'm pretty sure it was Trump that made my rather centrist Republican sister and brother-in-law likely leave the party for good, but I also have friends and relatives who will likely never leave the party, but who not only cannot vote for Trump, but will vote for Biden, not because they like him or think he will be great, but because they think the country cannot survive any more Trump.

I generally don't discuss politics with Republican friends and relatives unless they bring it up, but I am guessing that many of them will vote for Trump. I could see another pronounced spike in COVID (or some other precipitating factor) being the final straw for a few people. I doubt there are many undecideds at this point, but they may still be some who are Republicans but are processing a potential non-Republican vote.

I have a cousin (who I like a lot) who is a fairly middle-of-the-road Republican, whose mother is a Republican dating a hardcore Trumpist, and whose in-laws are also hardcore Trumpists. But my cousin and his wife? I have a hard time seeing it. I can imagine them feigning approval among relatives as they privately ponder the unthinkable, and when the time comes to vote, accepting a reality that they cannot vote for Trump. And they're in Virginia, where a switch like that might make a difference.

I_Like_Dirt · Post #332 » by **I_Like_Dirt** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 5:27 pm

Pointgod wrote:
I_Like_Dirt wrote:
Pointgod wrote:
Anyone who’s still an undecided voter is a **** moron. You have to have something seriously wrong with your brain to think that Trump is some kind of leader. Ask a someone question, would you trust Trump with the life of your kids?
It's not really undecided. There are two groups of undecideds at this point: those who are deciding to vote or not, and those who have always sort of known how they were going to vote but don't want to have to say it out loud (either Democrat in a Republican reality or a Republican who would rather not have to defend Trump and be known for it even though they agree with his takes).

I also suspect suburban white women might not be so bankable as people think. A lot of them fall into those Republicans who don't want to be known for it. Biden is closer to Trump in terms of image, though, so it brings the choices closer and more into focus at the same time; hopefully that's enough.

Sent from my SM-G970W using RealGM mobile app

I don’t think that you’re wrong that there are undecided voters that are Republican voters that are looking for a reason to not vote for Trump. But here’s the thing. Let’s say 90% of people have already made up their mind and 10% are “undecided”. Trump has to win pretty much of the undecideds to beat Biden in most states. Well that **** unhinged performance didn’t win him any votes and if the debate turned people off from voting it helps Biden. Anecdotally I’ve seen undecided voters saying that the debate made Biden look slightly better. I don’t think any non Trump voter came out of that debate thinking “that’s a guy I want to see President!”

If they still weren't convinced before rhe debate, the debate really didn't change anything for them. If they're shy about their beliefs they may act as though the debates changed things but it didn't. If they're actually going to vote the other way, they know it already even if they don't say it out loud.

The ones making a show of publicly making an agonizing decision are just reveling in the attention of being an "independent" even though anyone with a bit of time to consider their actions knows what's up.

Edit:

I'm sure there legitimately are some undecideds now but nowhere close to 10% and most of those are voting or not voting. Anyone legitimately torn between the parties at this point is an outright fool.

pancakes3 · Post #333 » by **pancakes3** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:50 pm

republicans in the dmv are almost certainly also cowboy fans.

AFM · Post #334 » by **AFM** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 12:25 pm

Is nate still around?

Pointgod · Post #335 » by **Pointgod** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 4:38 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #336 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 4:47 pm

Pointgod wrote:

Read on Twitter

Well sure, all 17 year old psychopaths who shoot and kill people... do these things because of their deep concerns for small business owners. Stand back and stand by. Heil Trump!

Post #337 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 7:35 pm

Man, what is going on in my twitter timeline. I have never encountered so many undecipherable subtweets. I think the radical left is losing their snap.

Post #338 » by **Zonkerbl** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 8:19 pm

Read on Twitter

Wizardspride · Post #339 » by **Wizardspride** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 10:24 pm

Read on Twitter

?s=19

Read on Twitter

?s=19

Post #340 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Oct 1, 2020 11:06 pm

Wizardspride wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=19

Read on Twitter
?s=19

Ya know what - f them. Their views no longer matter. If you ever see those Republican senators at a restaurant or something, make it a point to bother them. Don't get yourself arrested - just let them know what you think of them - perhaps very loudly near their ear - and walk away.