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GT: Wizards @ Raptors - 3/7/08

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Who wins this one?

Poll ended at Sun Mar 9, 2008 12:47 am

Your Washington Wizards
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Post#321 » by yungal07 » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:58 am

[quote="Spence"][/quote]

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Yea that was a good job by everyone on the team. Everyone contributed. The coaching staff did a great job too.
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Post#322 » by miller31time » Sat Mar 8, 2008 2:58 am

Spence wrote:Okay, everyone who was ripping AJ and calling him all sorts of names, get in here. I know you're out there. I didn't read this thread before posting, but I know you're out there 'cause you're always out there. Always. And every time he misses a shot, you jump and shout.

Antawn Motherfreaking Jamison. What a damn game. It always feels good to be one of the very few people in here who hasn't spent the last 4 years ripping such a terrific player and person.

Antawn Motherfreaking Jamison. You know him. You [most of you] hate him. But your team can't live without him.


Notice one thing -- the complaining stopped when Jamison stopped chucking deep shots. He was having a horrible offensive game in the 1st half. In the 2nd, he played HIS game - floaters in the lane, strong cuts to the basket, offensive rebounds, putbacks, post-ups. And low and behold, he finished the game STRONG.

I give him 100% credit for suiting up with a bum back, but it was Jamison who changed his game to correspond to how his offense was (or wasn't) flowing. That's what won us the game.

And as always, ridiculously good rebounding from AJ.
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Post#323 » by nate33 » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:01 am

yungal07 wrote:Great coaching job by Eddie Jordan and the rest of the coaching staff.

Stop bitching.

Agreed. EJ coached a good game tonight.

I thought maybe he could have brought Haywood back in during that 19-0 run by Toronto, but once we weathered that storm, I didn't mind him leaving Haywood on the bench. Blatche was playing well and he is a better defensive matchup against the perimeter shooting of Toronto.

EJ made some nice substitutions down the stretch swapping in DMac for Mason on defense

I didn't even mind the last-second shot by Nick Young at the end of the game. We had 11 seconds and no timeout. There really wasn't much of an opportunity to run a good offensive play given the fact that we lack a good point guard who can improvise. The next-best thing is to put the ball in the hands of our best one-on-one scorer. Tonight, that was certainly Nick Young.

Nice job by EJ. Nice job by the team except for that awful 3rd quarter.
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Post#324 » by Spence » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:01 am

What's your point, Miller? That AJ rebounded like a beast, defended hard, and bounced back from a tough shooting slump at the start of the game to save our backsides? 'Cause, you know, if that's your point, it is pretty much my point.

In any case, I didn't mean to call anyone out. I'm just thrilled to win a game I didn't think we'd win and I'm psyched up about my man Antawn. Truth be told, there are very few of us who have stuck with him. I've never seen a 20/10 guy so reviled by the fans of his own team. Well, some fans.
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Post#325 » by nate33 » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:02 am

mhd wrote:Why didn't Kapano play at all? That dude is a lights out shooter. He would have killed the Wiz tonight. They should have stuck him on Songs to hide his defense.

Songs is a very good low post scorer against smaller opponents. He'd score at will on Kapono.
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Post#326 » by gowiz999 » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:02 am

miller31time wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Notice one thing -- the complaining stopped when Jamison stopped chucking deep shots. He was having a horrible offensive game in the 1st half. In the 2nd, he played HIS game - floaters in the lane, strong cuts to the basket, offensive rebounds, putbacks, post-ups. And low and behold, he finished the game STRONG.

I give him 100% credit for suiting up with a bum back, but it was Jamison who changed his game to correspond to how his offense was (or wasn't) flowing. That's what won us the game.

And as always, ridiculously good rebounding from AJ.


Absolutely, Miller. If AJ stops jacking up so many ill-advised long jumpers he is a GREAT asset. His rebounding is awesome and his inside game is money. He also hit some big FTs at the end. As long as he stays inside he is fine.
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Post#327 » by Spence » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:04 am

I wonder what AJ is going to be like tomorrow night, though. I don't blame EJ for playing Jamison 45 of 53 minutes tonight. He had no choice. I just hope the Captain has got something left for the Bobcats.
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Post#328 » by Wiz99 » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:05 am

PJ Brown entering the game for the Celtics (vs Chitown).

What's with this new trend of semi-aged vets joining the best teams for one last push at a ring? Can't blame them. But it makes the Celtics bench look like a meeting of AARP.

Glad we won tonight. We needed it to maintain our 6 seed.
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Post#329 » by Spence » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:05 am

nate33 wrote:Songs is a very good low post scorer against smaller opponents. He'd score at will on Kapono.
Absolutely. Darius would handle that jumpshooter 20 points by halftime.
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Post#330 » by miller31time » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:05 am

Spence wrote:What's your point, Miller? That AJ rebounded like a beast, defended hard, and bounced back from a tough shooting slump at the start of the game to save our backsides? 'Cause, you know, if that's your point, it is pretty much my point.


My point is that the complaining you speak of is spurred on by legitimate reasons, ie: Jamison not playing the most effective aspects of his game. He's a decent shooter, but his greatest strengths are the ones I highlighted - "floaters in the lane, strong cuts to the basket, offensive rebounds, putbacks, post-ups". An occasional jumpshot in the flow of the offense is fine, but he strays away sometimes. When he does, be prepared for complaints. When he doesn't, expect my awaited "Jamison for POTG" nomination.
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Post#331 » by yungal07 » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:06 am

gowiz999 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Absolutely, Miller. If AJ stops jacking up so many ill-advised long jumpers he is a GREAT asset. His rebounding is awesome and his inside game is money. He also hit some big FTs at the end. As long as he stays inside he is fine.


LOL Jamison is fine now huh...
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Post#332 » by mhd » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:07 am

Well, at least Haywood will be plenty rested for tomorrow. With the Bobcats having Okefor, Haywood can shut him down and get minutes.
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Post#333 » by tkunit » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:08 am

I love our games against the raps, always entertaining
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Post#334 » by miller31time » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:10 am

tkunit wrote:I love our games against the raps, always entertaining


They give me heart problems, but I love em' anyway.
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Post#335 » by Spence » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:10 am

miller31time wrote:My point is that the complaining you speak of is spurred on by legitimate reasons, ie: Jamison not playing the most effective aspects of his game. He's a decent shooter, but his greatest strengths are the ones I highlighted - "floaters in the lane, strong cuts to the basket, offensive rebounds, putbacks, post-ups". An occasional jumpshot in the flow of the offense is fine, but he strays away sometimes. When he does, be prepared for complaints. When he doesn't, expect my awaited "Jamison for POTG" nomination.
Miller, Jamison's game is what it is. He's going to keep shooting from the outside. It's part of his game. You have to take it with the rest of it. It's like complaining about Gil putting up a couple of silly 3-pointers every game. You're not supposed to like it. Eddie Jordan doesn't like it. But it is part of the package. Jamison was a monster tonight. [And a lot of nights.] The outside shot isn't falling for him now, but he keeps trying it because he's a shooter and shooters shoot. If he can't find a rhythm, he moves inside and gets those weird-ass points only he can get. That's his gig. I don't have a problem with it. I'll take 25 and 16 [or whatever it was] every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
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Post#336 » by Wizards2Lottery » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:10 am

AJ didn't do **** to help in the first quarter. 1-9 and horrible shot selection was the reason why he deserved all criticism possible.

Good thing he made shots and free throws late in the game, cuz you know all hes getting paid is 16 million a season...
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Post#337 » by miller31time » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:14 am

Spence wrote:Miller, Jamison's game is what it is. He's going to keep shooting from the outside. It's part of his game. You have to take it with the rest of it. It's like complaining about Gil putting up a couple of silly 3-pointers every game. You're not supposed to like it. Eddie Jordan doesn't like it. But it is part of the package. Jamison was a monster tonight. [And a lot of nights.] The outside shot isn't falling for him now, but he keeps trying it because he's a shooter and shooters shoot. If he can't find a rhythm, he moves inside and gets those weird-ass points only he can get. That's his gig. I don't have a problem with it. I'll take 25 and 16 [or whatever it was] every day of the week and twice on Sunday.


That's all well and good, but it just because it's "part of his game" doesn't make him immune from (rightful) criticism.
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Post#338 » by 99 Problems » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:16 am

Good game, could have gone either way..

Nick Young finally played good against us... Guy is good, wish we had him..

Now it's time for you guys to go on a huge win 10 game win streak and take over the 5th seed!!
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Post#339 » by Spence » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:16 am

Thank you, Gilbert0Arenas. I've always considered you the most representative of the AJ-bashers on the team. You speak [or type, really] for most of them. Never factual, but always amusing. :D
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Post#340 » by Spence » Sat Mar 8, 2008 3:19 am

miller31time wrote:That's all well and good, but it just because it's "part of his game" doesn't make him immune from (rightful) criticism.

Miller, nobody is immune from criticism. The point is that criticism ought to be balanced with a fair appreciation of the things AJ does right. Very few people on this board do that. And you're not one of them.

You think 10 posts attacking AJ and 1 post [grudgingly] crediting him for what he's done is fair. That's fine for you, I suppose, but if I wrote about Brendan Haywood, for example, the way you write about Antawn Jamison, I'd feel pretty silly.
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