Slather me, Lather me, Blather me - 2011 Draft Thread 5

[Cramer]

id rather have Jan Brady than Jan Vesley

I dunno, I don't think Jan today looks nearly like you imagine she does...you might be veeeery disappointed...

you're on a roll today sfam

Actually she's aged pretty damn well....

[Dat2U]

Kawhi Leonard would be the WORST option out of all. He can't shoot a lick, and had terrible efficiency numbers in college. He ranked as one of the worst offensive players from an efficiency standpoint according to DX.

On a team with one shooter (who's streaky), that's not a pick I would even remotely consider. Quite frankly, I have no clue how that guy even made it into lottery consideration...before the college season was up, he was seen as a mid-1st rounder.

Gotta co-sign this. Leonard was a poor offensive player in college. The rebounding will translate and it sounds like he can defend but right now he's a situational player at best. I think he'll have a role in the league but so does Dominic McGuire and right now that's the comparison I keep coming back to. A deluxe version of McGuire. That's NOT what I'd want with the sixth pick.

If were forced to stay at 6 and Enes Kanter was gone, I'd would be choosing b/w Tristan Thompson and Bismack Biyombo. Might as well err on the side of low post defense.

[Higga]

I really hope that 3 team deal takes place. I wonder who the players that would move would be though. Who would we ship out if anyone? I can't see us giving any young guys away except maybe Seraphin(with McGee and Kanter there isn't much room for him). Nobody is going to want Shard obviously and Minny and Utah have no need for Blatche(whom they probably wouldn't want anyway).

I'm still holding out hope we get Kanter. If all we get after last season's tanktastic season is Jan **** Vesley and whoever at 18 and 34(who will more than likely bust or be average at best)I'm going to be pretty salty.

[REDardWIZskin]

Vesely's excuse for poor FT shooting was that he was nervous.....i don't get it. THIS IS THE PERSON YOU WANT TO DRAFT????? He's going to the NBA not a boys and girls club community center league. smfh

[LyricalRico]

I wonder what it would take to flip-flop with Toronto? Maybe just Seraphin.

In that scenario, we'd have the #5 + #18 as trade bait. Surely, Utah would trade us the #3 for that package. They still end up with Knight (at a lower pay scale) while picking up the #18 for their trouble.

A lot of this may have to wait until the draft shakes out. We may see Minny draft Williams, Utah draft Kanter, Cleveland draft Valanciunas, and Toronto draft Knight. Then there would be a ton of wheeling and dealing while the Wizards are on the clock.

But wouldn't that essentially equal out to 6+18+Seraphin for Kanter? Didn't we already decide that was too much?

[REDardWIZskin]

The anxiety on this board is as high as I have ever seen it. I will only intensify as the hour draws near.

[miller31time]

I know I'm in the minority here but if we're trading to get the 3rd pick in the same deal where the 2nd pick is being given up, I would rather give up extra pieces and nab the 2nd pick (Williams).

It seems most on this board are pretty down on him but just a few months ago, we were all touting him as the perfect running-mate and building block for Wall and the Wizards.

I can see the logic in this.

Unfortunately, we don't really have the parts to satisfy Minnesota's needs. They want a capable youngish vet. We don't have one. Unless we include McGee, we really only have enough trade chips to get us up to #3. Utah would then take our package, add Millsap to move up to #2.

I guess that's where I disagree with most here - I have absolutely no problem dealing McGee. I see his potential but I also see that he may never realize his potential. He's had all the opportunities in the world to be a sound, fundamental basketball player but he's seemingly always taken the easy way out. If we don't have the option of trading him for Williams, then the wait-and-see approach with JaVale is fine, but when you have the option of adding a legitimate running-mate and #2 option to go along with Wall and you have to give up a head-case with questionable work ethic, you do it.

[Halcyon]

Kawhi Leonard would be the WORST option out of all. He can't shoot a lick, and had terrible efficiency numbers in college. He ranked as one of the worst offensive players from an efficiency standpoint according to DX.

On a team with one shooter (who's streaky), that's not a pick I would even remotely consider. Quite frankly, I have no clue how that guy even made it into lottery consideration...before the college season was up, he was seen as a mid-1st rounder.

Gotta co-sign this. Leonard was a poor offensive player in college. The rebounding will translate and it sounds like he can defend but right now he's a situational player at best. I think he'll have a role in the league but so does Dominic McGuire and right now that's the comparison I keep coming back to. A deluxe version of McGuire. That's NOT what I'd want with the sixth pick.

If were forced to stay at 6 and Enes Kanter was gone, I'd would be choosing b/w Tristan Thompson and Bismack Biyombo. Might as well err on the side of low post defense.

I totally agree. If Kanter is gone I'm going with a defensive big.

[WallTown02]

My top choices would be to somehow come up with Williams or Kanter. However, if we can't trade up, and they are both gone (Valanciunas too for that matter), I think my top choice would be Tristan Thompson.

He was a top 10 recruit, plays physical D, and can rebound. He played great against Williams in the tourney, and he still has alot of upside. I'd take him over Vessly and Leonard in a second. Besides, next year should have much better SFs anyways.

He was rated #3 overall by Hollinger, and i've read multiple opinions that say he could be the sleeper of the draft. Strong D and rebounding sounds like the perfect fit next to McGee or Blatche. Hopefully, McGee will continue to improve offensively, and Thompson can develope a mid range J. That would be perfect. Thoughts?

[Ruzious]

After Biz' comments about not wanting to play in DC, I don't think he's a consideration for the Wiz.

[Ruzious]

My top choices would be to somehow come up with Williams or Kanter. However, if we can't trade up, and they are both gone (Valanciunas too for that matter), I think my top choice would be Tristan Thompson.

He was a top 10 recruit, plays physical D, and can rebound. He played great against Williams in the tourney, and he still has alot of upside. I'd take him over Vessly and Leonard in a second. Besides, next year should have much better SFs anyways.

He was rated #3 overall by Hollinger, and i've read multiple opinions that say he could be the sleeper of the draft. Strong D and rebounding sounds like the perfect fit next to McGee or Blatche. Hopefully, McGee will continue to improve offensively, and Thompson can develope a mid range J. That would be perfect. Thoughts?

I have no interest in Thompson. He's a small PF (height and weight) with next to no offensive skills. Teaming him up with Javale (and not to mention Seraphin) leaves farrrrrr too little offensive skill on this team.

[thinker07]

After Biz' comments about not wanting to play in DC, I don't think he's a consideration for the Wiz.

Biyombo never said he didn't want to come to DC - he just indicated that DC was not one of the teams that had been talking to him.

[montestewart]

The anxiety on this board is as high as I have ever seen it. I will only intensify as the hour draws near.

Luckily, I work in a pharmacy next door to a liquor store.

[Dat2U]

After Biz' comments about not wanting to play in DC, I don't think he's a consideration for the Wiz.

LOL. Who cares about his comments? It's not like he's got a choice in the matter.

[pineappleheadindc]

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[BYRDMAN RULZ]

I wonder what it would take to flip-flop with Toronto? Maybe just Seraphin.

In that scenario, we'd have the #5 + #18 as trade bait. Surely, Utah would trade us the #3 for that package. They still end up with Knight (at a lower pay scale) while picking up the #18 for their trouble.

A lot of this may have to wait until the draft shakes out. We may see Minny draft Williams, Utah draft Kanter, Cleveland draft Valanciunas, and Toronto draft Knight. Then there would be a ton of wheeling and dealing while the Wizards are on the clock.

But wouldn't that essentially equal out to 6+18+Seraphin for Kanter? Didn't we already decide that was too much?

3 Players for Kanter does seem like an awful lot to give up. Is Kanter really that good, I cannot say that I know enough about him to say he is worth trading up for, but I can say with reasonable certainty that the 6th, 18th, Seraphin is too much.

[FAH1223]

I prepared myself for disappointment last night. I don't think we will trade up

So

#6 - a bust

#18 - good player

#34 - high upside with a specific role, hopefully an upper classman

[Ruzious]

After Biz' comments about not wanting to play in DC, I don't think he's a consideration for the Wiz.

LOL. Who cares about his comments? It's not like he's got a choice in the matter.

You and I are very different. If I'm a GM, I'd actually care about my players. And there's no chance that I'd pick a player who said he didn't want to play for my team.

[Ruzious]

After Biz' comments about not wanting to play in DC, I don't think he's a consideration for the Wiz.

Biyombo never said he didn't want to come to DC - he just indicated that DC was not one of the teams that had been talking to him.

No, he did actually say he didn't want to come to DC. It's linked somewhere in this thread or the last one.

[LyricalRico]

Miller+21 for Nelson? Gives Orlando salary relief and opens a spot for Arenas to start next year (assuming he can regain some of his old form). Portland gets an upgrade at PG.

Looks good to me.