Is Wall Top 5 PG?

tontoz · Post #361 » by **tontoz** » Fri Jan 2, 2015 9:20 pm

When your primary ballhandler can shoot 3s well off the dribble it puts a lot of pressure on the defense. Lillard is averaging 22 ppg with a TS of 60%. He isn't dribbling the air out of the ball like Irving does.

Has anyone noticed what Rose is up to lately? Over the last 3 games he is 14-60 from the field. no that isn't a typo.

Post #362 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jan 2, 2015 9:32 pm

tontoz wrote:When your primary ballhandler can shoot 3s well off the dribble it puts a lot of pressure on the defense. Lillard is averaging 22 ppg with a TS of 60%. He isn't dribbling the air out of the ball like Irving does.

Has anyone noticed what Rose is up to lately? Over the last 3 games he is 14-60 from the field. no that isn't a typo.

I count it as a plus that Lillard is able to play with Steve Blake and alternate point guard duties with shooting guard duties. And when he is on - which is a large portion of the time - he is maybe the hardest player in the NBA to defend. I didn't realize what a great athlete he is until watching him explode over centers on dribble-drives to the hoop.

DCZards · Post #363 » by **DCZards** » Fri Jan 2, 2015 9:55 pm

dobrojim wrote:The NBA is ridiculously loaded at the PG position. Top 5 varies from day to day.
Jeff Teague is doing some things right too what with ATL actually ahead of us.

Yeah, the position has exploded with talent the past 8-10 years. We haven't even mentioned Rondo, who not long ago was arguably in the top 5, Mike Conley, maybe the most underrated PG in the league, or Ty Lawson.

deneem4 · Post #364 » by **deneem4** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 10:37 am

unless wall grow some balls he will not be a top5 pg by season end...and im a john wall homer but he needs to be a more aggressive scorer not jus for his sake but for the team as well...wall has to average atleast 20 points for us to have a chance to make some noise...the assist will come easier when he makes himself the #1 priority...

as of now I got

westbrook
curry
lillard
paul(jus cause hes chris paul)
Lowry(and I hate this guy)
wall
conley
rondo
Teague

not to mention rose finding his footing and parker being out...

being a floor general is cool...but when on your team at creating your own shot or getting to the rim you have to take maximum advantage of it...especially when the next best guy is 37 and the one after him is benched in the dleague...

pancakes3 · Post #365 » by **pancakes3** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 2:46 pm

I think it's unfair to call Wall out for not being a 20ppg scorer AND rank non 20+ppg guys like Rondo, Conley, Teague ahead of him.

Post #366 » by **nate33** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:04 pm

deneem4 wrote:unless wall grow some balls he will not be a top5 pg by season end...and im a john wall homer but he needs to be a more aggressive scorer not jus for his sake but for the team as well...wall has to average atleast 20 points for us to have a chance to make some noise...the assist will come easier when he makes himself the #1 priority.

The reason Wall has played so well throughout December and January is because he gave up the idea that he has to be an aggressive scorer. An "aggressive scorer" John Wall has an ORtg of about 101. That's not good. You don't want inefficient guys taking a ton of shots. Wall has figured out that the team plays better when he shoots less. Give me a guy who averages 15 and 11 with good efficiency over a guy who averages 20 and 9 with poor efficiency any day.

Wall is playing fine. There has been a slight dip in his production on this road trip because West teams play better defense and they don't turn the ball over enough for Wall to do his one man fast break thing. It's no cause for concern.

tontoz · Post #367 » by **tontoz** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 4:43 pm

nate33 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:unless wall grow some balls he will not be a top5 pg by season end...and im a john wall homer but he needs to be a more aggressive scorer not jus for his sake but for the team as well...wall has to average atleast 20 points for us to have a chance to make some noise...the assist will come easier when he makes himself the #1 priority.

The reason Wall has played so well throughout December and January is because he gave up the idea that he has to be an aggressive scorer. An "aggressive scorer" John Wall has an ORtg of about 101. That's not good. You don't want inefficient guys taking a ton of shots. Wall has figured out that the team plays better when he shoots less. Give me a guy who averages 15 and 11 with good efficiency over a guy who averages 20 and 9 with poor efficiency any day.

Wall is playing fine. There has been a slight dip in his production on this road trip because West teams play better defense and they don't turn the ball over enough for Wall to do his one man fast break thing. It's no cause for concern.

Agreed. Wall is an elite playmaker but not an elite scorer. In the past the thing that has hurt his effectiveness is that he wastes too many possessions on missed shots/turnovers. Cutting down his shots is a smart move.

Over the last two games Wall has 20 assists and 2 turnovers. That is exactly what we want to see from him.

This team doesn't really have a legit go to scorer. Can't blame Wall for that though.

Dat2U · Post #368 » by **Dat2U** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 4:56 pm

Wall being aggressive doesn't necessarily mean more jump shots....I actually agree with deneem...at times Wall settles on being an Avery Johnson/Steve Blake like tablesetter and becomes very passive going long stretches without putting pressure on opponents. I honestly don't love this version of Wall...he's simply too talented not to constantly put defenses on their heels.

Illmatic12 · Post #369 » by **Illmatic12** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:25 pm

deneem4 wrote:unless wall grow some balls he will not be a top5 pg by season end...and im a john wall homer but he needs to be a more aggressive scorer not jus for his sake but for the team as well...wall has to average atleast 20 points for us to have a chance to make some noise...the assist will come easier when he makes himself the #1 priority...

as of now I got

westbrook
curry
lillard
paul(jus cause hes chris paul)
Lowry(and I hate this guy)
wall
conley
rondo
Teague

not to mention rose finding his footing and parker being out...

being a floor general is cool...but when on your team at creating your own shot or getting to the rim you have to take maximum advantage of it...especially when the next best guy is 37 and the one after him is benched in the dleague...

What footing is Rose finding? His production has been awful, easily one of the worst contracts in the league currently.

And your "top PG" list is irrelevant, who cares about week-to-week point guard rankings. Who on that list would you trade Wall for, honestly? I only see one guy (Steph Curry) and that's questionable. Wall is exactly where we need to be, which is one of the most dynamic and valuable PGs in the league.

John Wall isn't a scoring pg, he is an elite SET UP MAN. Yet there is no one on this team to SET UP, seeing as he is the only remotely All-Star caliber offensive player on his team.

Almost everyone on your little list there plays with an elite offensive player. Give Wall a Kevin Durant, or an Aldridge, Blake Griffin, Marc Gasol, Nowitzki, Horford/Millsap to help him close out games and you would be singing a different tune.

Even CP3 in his New Orleans days when he was viewed as singlehandedly carrying the team, still had an All-Star stretch PF in David West who they could go to in key moments (in fact I specifically remember West hitting a clutch gamewinner against the Wiz, when the Hornets were playing in OKC). Wall has none of that, none. Heck Nene and Gortat in their PRIMES weren't as good as any of those above players, yet we have the post-prime ersion s f them as two of our main offensive weapons. Give me a break dude.

dangermouse · Post #370 » by **dangermouse** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 12:27 am

Lillard, anyone else see him as the new Arenas? He may even be better than Agent Zero when all is said and done.

CobraCommander · Post #371 » by **CobraCommander** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 12:48 am

Wall is top 5 period. If you guys are going to go game by game- you need to get the NBA season pass and watch All the other point guards. Curry and Paul have bad games too. Wall is a top five defender at the point, number one assist/set up guy at point and a horrible shooter - while still giving you 17 a game. Stop over reacting to every time he does a "spin move lay up" and when he has a less than stellar game. The wiz just lost to the mavs- possibly the best team in league- okc with the best player in the world playing amazing and then lost to the Spurs - current world champs- Calm Down---- If Wall was top five a week ago - he still is today. Like I said before - I think Wall is top five - but could someone could realistically rank him as low as seventh? Yes of course. At this point Wall is good enough where point guard is our strength and not worthy of our concern.

CobraCommander · Post #372 » by **CobraCommander** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 12:52 am

dangermouse wrote:Lillard, anyone else see him as the new Arenas? He may even be better than Agent Zero when all is said and done.

I think you need to review the advance statics. Areanas was one of the best one or two scorers for 2 years- the rest of his career was - :crazy:

Areanas at his best was better than what we have seen from Lillard thus far. Keep in mind what Gil did when he went to LA and The Suns against an MVP Nash and Kobe- he went off. Lillard is good but not at the agent zero level at this point - remember Gil was 29 and 6 for 2 years---

Illmatic12 · Post #373 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 1:29 am

dangermouse wrote:Lillard, anyone else see him as the new Arenas? He may even be better than Agent Zero when all is said and done.

Lillard's game isn't touching prime Arenas. The only similarity is in their clutch ability, and insane shooting range. Lillard doesn't have Gil's strength, explosiveness, finishing, ability to draw FTs.

deneem4 · Post #374 » by **deneem4** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 2:52 am

Illmatic12 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:unless wall grow some balls he will not be a top5 pg by season end...and im a john wall homer but he needs to be a more aggressive scorer not jus for his sake but for the team as well...wall has to average atleast 20 points for us to have a chance to make some noise...the assist will come easier when he makes himself the #1 priority...

as of now I got

westbrook
curry
lillard
paul(jus cause hes chris paul)
Lowry(and I hate this guy)
wall
conley
rondo
Teague

not to mention rose finding his footing and parker being out...

being a floor general is cool...but when on your team at creating your own shot or getting to the rim you have to take maximum advantage of it...especially when the next best guy is 37 and the one after him is benched in the dleague...

What footing is Rose finding? His production has been awful, easily one of the worst contracts in the league currently.

And your "top PG" list is irrelevant, who cares about week-to-week point guard rankings. Who on that list would you trade Wall for, honestly? I only see one guy (Steph Curry) and that's questionable. Wall is exactly where we need to be, which is one of the most dynamic and valuable PGs in the league.

John Wall isn't a scoring pg, he is an elite SET UP MAN. Yet there is no one on this team to SET UP, seeing as he is the only remotely All-Star caliber offensive player on his team.

Almost everyone on your little list there plays with an elite offensive player. Give Wall a Kevin Durant, or an Aldridge, Blake Griffin, Marc Gasol, Nowitzki, Horford/Millsap to help him close out games and you would be singing a different tune.

Even CP3 in his New Orleans days when he was viewed as singlehandedly carrying the team, still had an All-Star stretch PF in David West who they could go to in key moments (in fact I specifically remember West hitting a clutch gamewinner against the Wiz, when the Hornets were playing in OKC). Wall has none of that, none. Heck Nene and Gortat in their PRIMES weren't as good as any of those above players, yet we have the post-prime ersion s f them as two of our main offensive weapons. Give me a break dude.

thats the thing when you dont have weapons you have to be the weapon snd not make excuses about your personal...if u take your toyota on the track you cant say u lost because the competitors are driving mustangs...u go back intot he garage and build a winner....if wall doesnt want to be more than an elite setup man then he doesnt need to be our max player...stop giving him excuses!!...if he wouldve chose to attack on thag last possesion vs okc vs passing he maybe couldve scored, collapsed the defense, or even got to thr line...instead he made a pass that was interrupted...ask chris paul what being an elite setup man get you...our team lives and die behind wall...so I will give him praise and blame equally...

deneem4 · Post #375 » by **deneem4** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 2:59 am

tontoz wrote:
nate33 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:unless wall grow some balls he will not be a top5 pg by season end...and im a john wall homer but he needs to be a more aggressive scorer not jus for his sake but for the team as well...wall has to average atleast 20 points for us to have a chance to make some noise...the assist will come easier when he makes himself the #1 priority.

The reason Wall has played so well throughout December and January is because he gave up the idea that he has to be an aggressive scorer. An "aggressive scorer" John Wall has an ORtg of about 101. That's not good. You don't want inefficient guys taking a ton of shots. Wall has figured out that the team plays better when he shoots less. Give me a guy who averages 15 and 11 with good efficiency over a guy who averages 20 and 9 with poor efficiency any day.

Wall is playing fine. There has been a slight dip in his production on this road trip because West teams play better defense and they don't turn the ball over enough for Wall to do his one man fast break thing. It's no cause for concern.

Agreed. Wall is an elite playmaker but not an elite scorer. In the past the thing that has hurt his effectiveness is that he wastes too many possessions on missed shots/turnovers. Cutting down his shots is a smart move.

Over the last two games Wall has 20 assists and 2 turnovers. That is exactly what we want to see from him.

This team doesn't really have a legit go to scorer. Can't blame Wall for that though.

you do blame wall because hes out best offensive option...if he becsme more of the defensive focus it would open up plays for our other guys...I read an article about how rose have been shooting horrible...but instead of regresssing he just kept shooting, the result was easier plays for jimmy snd pau simply because rose stayed a threat, even being efficient a threat is a threat....if wall tries not to be a scoring threat the passing lanes get played more...the defense sags...the paint get crowded bigs get shield off...like you said we have no go to offensive player...but wall is the most capable and he has to start playing like it consistently

Illmatic12 · Post #376 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 3:05 am

deneem4 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:unless wall grow some balls he will not be a top5 pg by season end...and im a john wall homer but he needs to be a more aggressive scorer not jus for his sake but for the team as well...wall has to average atleast 20 points for us to have a chance to make some noise...the assist will come easier when he makes himself the #1 priority...

as of now I got

westbrook
curry
lillard
paul(jus cause hes chris paul)
Lowry(and I hate this guy)
wall
conley
rondo
Teague

not to mention rose finding his footing and parker being out...

being a floor general is cool...but when on your team at creating your own shot or getting to the rim you have to take maximum advantage of it...especially when the next best guy is 37 and the one after him is benched in the dleague...

What footing is Rose finding? His production has been awful, easily one of the worst contracts in the league currently.

And your "top PG" list is irrelevant, who cares about week-to-week point guard rankings. Who on that list would you trade Wall for, honestly? I only see one guy (Steph Curry) and that's questionable. Wall is exactly where we need to be, which is one of the most dynamic and valuable PGs in the league.

John Wall isn't a scoring pg, he is an elite SET UP MAN. Yet there is no one on this team to SET UP, seeing as he is the only remotely All-Star caliber offensive player on his team.

Almost everyone on your little list there plays with an elite offensive player. Give Wall a Kevin Durant, or an Aldridge, Blake Griffin, Marc Gasol, Nowitzki, Horford/Millsap to help him close out games and you would be singing a different tune.

Even CP3 in his New Orleans days when he was viewed as singlehandedly carrying the team, still had an All-Star stretch PF in David West who they could go to in key moments (in fact I specifically remember West hitting a clutch gamewinner against the Wiz, when the Hornets were playing in OKC). Wall has none of that, none. Heck Nene and Gortat in their PRIMES weren't as good as any of those above players, yet we have the post-prime ersion s f them as two of our main offensive weapons. Give me a break dude.

thats the thing when you dont have weapons you have to be the weapon snd not make excuses about your personal...if u take your toyota on the track you cant say u lost because the competitors are driving mustangs...u go back intot he garage and build a winner....if wall doesnt want to be more than an elite setup man then he doesnt need to be our max player...stop giving him excuses!!...if he wouldve chose to attack on thag last possesion vs okc vs passing he maybe couldve scored, collapsed the defense, or even got to thr line...instead he made a pass that was interrupted...ask chris paul what being an elite setup man get you...our team lives and die behind wall...so I will give him praise and blame equally...

Chris Paul is one of the greatest point guards to ever pick up a basketball and play this sport. If Wall aspires to play a Chris Paul-type game for the rest of his career and Washington is unable to surround him with the talent he needs to win, that's on our front office. Not on John...

Wall will make anyone he plays with better. He doesn't even need to play with a dominant Durant-caliber scorer. Just swap Nene for someone like Paul Millsap who can consistently score in the post + stretch the floor, and Washington would be a top ~5-7 offense with Wall battling Curry and CP3 for the 'best PG in the game' label.

Wall/Beal/Pierce/Millsap/Gortat would be easily the most dangerous team in the East right now. Not to talk of him having a beastly PF like Aldridge, Griffin, etc.

dlts20 · Post #377 » by **dlts20** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 3:17 am

I disagree with those saying Wall shouldnt shoot more or that if he shoots more then he becomes inefficient. We are better when he's aggressive and I think his growth had nothing to do with shooting less. I think he just got better and smarter as a player. Right now he's starting to look like last year's Lebron who is just worried about his FG percentage but we will not beat these good teams with Wall shooting nearly 47% in the last 5 games yet only avearging 13ppg in that span.

It makes no sense and we are good enough to beat the elite teams like that. I also think our fan base thinks he's less of a scorer then I do. I dont care how he gets done but he can definitely be a 20ppg scorer if he wants. We dont need that right now but we do need atleast 17 or 18 and not the 13 that he's been putting up over the past 5 despite shooting well.

With that being said, the system sucks and him not having a stretch big will always limit him/us

llcc25 · Post #378 » by **llcc25** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 4:20 am

I've been having this debate with a friend as well. In my opinion, Wall has been solid this week. 14 and 11 is good enough against mediocre teams but against the elite teams, we need more. We need him to be more aggressive like deneem said. Being agressive doesnt mean i want him to take ill advised inefficient jump shots like he did down the stretch in 4th quarter of past two losses. It means I want him attacking the rim and making things happen that way by getting a higher % shot or drawing a fouls like he did he a couple weeks ago. Thats his game. I'm not saying he needs to average 20 every game, but against Spurs and OKC, which were both winnable games, 20 from Wall would've won both games. I don't think that's asking too much from our franchise max player. At end of the day, in the close games against elite teams, we need our stars to rise and this week Wall was just good but not great.

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deneem4 · Post #379 » by **deneem4** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 5:27 am

Illmatic12 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:What footing is Rose finding? His production has been awful, easily one of the worst contracts in the league currently.

And your "top PG" list is irrelevant, who cares about week-to-week point guard rankings. Who on that list would you trade Wall for, honestly? I only see one guy (Steph Curry) and that's questionable. Wall is exactly where we need to be, which is one of the most dynamic and valuable PGs in the league.

John Wall isn't a scoring pg, he is an elite SET UP MAN. Yet there is no one on this team to SET UP, seeing as he is the only remotely All-Star caliber offensive player on his team.

Almost everyone on your little list there plays with an elite offensive player. Give Wall a Kevin Durant, or an Aldridge, Blake Griffin, Marc Gasol, Nowitzki, Horford/Millsap to help him close out games and you would be singing a different tune.

Even CP3 in his New Orleans days when he was viewed as singlehandedly carrying the team, still had an All-Star stretch PF in David West who they could go to in key moments (in fact I specifically remember West hitting a clutch gamewinner against the Wiz, when the Hornets were playing in OKC). Wall has none of that, none. Heck Nene and Gortat in their PRIMES weren't as good as any of those above players, yet we have the post-prime ersion s f them as two of our main offensive weapons. Give me a break dude.

thats the thing when you dont have weapons you have to be the weapon snd not make excuses about your personal...if u take your toyota on the track you cant say u lost because the competitors are driving mustangs...u go back intot he garage and build a winner....if wall doesnt want to be more than an elite setup man then he doesnt need to be our max player...stop giving him excuses!!...if he wouldve chose to attack on thag last possesion vs okc vs passing he maybe couldve scored, collapsed the defense, or even got to thr line...instead he made a pass that was interrupted...ask chris paul what being an elite setup man get you...our team lives and die behind wall...so I will give him praise and blame equally...

Chris Paul is one of the greatest point guards to ever pick up a basketball and play this sport. If Wall aspires to play a Chris Paul-type game for the rest of his career and Washington is unable to surround him with the talent he needs to win, that's on our front office. Not on John...

Wall will make anyone he plays with better. He doesn't even need to play with a dominant Durant-caliber scorer. Just swap Nene for someone like Paul Millsap who can consistently score in the post + stretch the floor, and Washington would be a top ~5-7 offense with Wall battling Curry and CP3 for the 'best PG in the game' label.

Wall/Beal/Pierce/Millsap/Gortat would be easily the most dangerous team in the East right now. Not to talk of him having a beastly PF like Aldridge, Griffin, etc.

exactly thats what im saying...lets surround him with talent now instead of holding our hands until durant makes a decision...lets maximize his potential while hes young as the main option so when he plays with s more elite player he can be ready to step up instead of lean on...durant is durant but okc needs Westbrook...wall needs to learn to be westbrook now at times...so when durant comes he csn play at that level...when beal and kd jumper off wall will confidence in his scoring rather than forcing others with his excellent play making....

ans yes chris paul is one of the greatest but if he played more like the hornets paul instesd of thr clippers paul in thr playoffs they wouldve made it wayy further...he relies on blake and while blake is an excellent option chris paul is still an elite scorer, who csn give you 30 with ease...sometimes you have to be a ball hog...even if it mesns your % s go down...you have to play to win....
thats honestly what stopped the heat run last yr...lebron didnt take more than 22 shots in 7bgames straight in thr finals...his % s was incredible but when u going for gold nothing else matyers but the win

Illmatic12 · Post #380 » by **Illmatic12** » Mon Jan 5, 2015 6:25 am

deneem4 wrote:
Illmatic12 wrote:
deneem4 wrote:
thats the thing when you dont have weapons you have to be the weapon snd not make excuses about your personal...if u take your toyota on the track you cant say u lost because the competitors are driving mustangs...u go back intot he garage and build a winner....if wall doesnt want to be more than an elite setup man then he doesnt need to be our max player...stop giving him excuses!!...if he wouldve chose to attack on thag last possesion vs okc vs passing he maybe couldve scored, collapsed the defense, or even got to thr line...instead he made a pass that was interrupted...ask chris paul what being an elite setup man get you...our team lives and die behind wall...so I will give him praise and blame equally...

Chris Paul is one of the greatest point guards to ever pick up a basketball and play this sport. If Wall aspires to play a Chris Paul-type game for the rest of his career and Washington is unable to surround him with the talent he needs to win, that's on our front office. Not on John...

Wall will make anyone he plays with better. He doesn't even need to play with a dominant Durant-caliber scorer. Just swap Nene for someone like Paul Millsap who can consistently score in the post + stretch the floor, and Washington would be a top ~5-7 offense with Wall battling Curry and CP3 for the 'best PG in the game' label.

Wall/Beal/Pierce/Millsap/Gortat would be easily the most dangerous team in the East right now. Not to talk of him having a beastly PF like Aldridge, Griffin, etc.

exactly thats what im saying...lets surround him with talent now instead of holding our hands until durant makes a decision...lets maximize his potential while hes young as the main option so when he plays with s more elite player he can be ready to step up instead of lean on...durant is durant but okc needs Westbrook...wall needs to learn to be westbrook now at times...so when durant comes he csn play at that level...when beal and kd jumper off wall will confidence in his scoring rather than forcing others with his excellent play making....

ans yes chris paul is one of the greatest but if he played more like the hornets paul instesd of thr clippers paul in thr playoffs they wouldve made it wayy further...he relies on blake and while blake is an excellent option chris paul is still an elite scorer, who csn give you 30 with ease...sometimes you have to be a ball hog...even if it mesns your % s go down...you have to play to win....
thats honestly what stopped the heat run last yr...lebron didnt take more than 22 shots in 7bgames straight in thr finals...his % s was incredible but when u going for gold nothing else matyers but the win

Wall does not need to learn how to be Westbrook, a player who is incapable of trusting his teammates and gets by off of sheer athleticism. Wall needs to continue training himself to always make the correct basketball play, which he's been doing a great job of this season for the most part.

Chris Paul always made the CORRECT basketball play in his prime. The only reason he's not as aggressive now is because his athleticism has declined and injuries have taken their toll. It's clear he doesn't have as much confidence in that part of his game now and defers more than he should. If you put a *prime* Chris Paul on the Thunder instead of Westbrook, he has multiple championships by now.

Keeping the future of the TEAM in mind, I would rather Wall continue doing what he's doing right now, than for him to be chucking up shots he's not good at it or hurling himself into the paint and screaming for calls he won't get. I don't want him reverting back to bad habits when he's on the verge of turning a corner in his development. As he gains a greater understanding of game situations, he will know when to attack and when to set others up. Keep in mind, this is the best team he's ever been on in his life, and he's never experienced this much NBA success. So as a young guy he probably feels confident that he's progressing well, despite the fact that we as fans have minor criticisms here and there.

Furthermore, Wall has actually been pretty good in the clutch this season. He's 11th in the league in clutch ppg, shooting at 51% fg: http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/c ... F=GP*GE*10

We're typically not losing these close games BECAUSE of Wall. We're losing them because Wittman can't draw up a play to save his life that gets us a good shot in the final 3-4 minutes of the game. Something has to change about the way we execute in crunchtime, but it's not on Wall. At some point Wittman has to figure out how to get the team better looks when we need them.