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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#361 » by WizTom » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:08 pm

payitforward wrote:
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payitforward wrote:"focacta" ?? -- Kev, you need some help w/ your Yiddish, dude! Then again, Yiddish is actually written using Hebrew letters, so I suppose any transliteration should be allowed.

Still, it's usually "verkocht" or "verkochte" (depending on gender of the word it's modifying), though I've also seen it w/ an "f" instead of a "v" and in that case sometimes w/ an "a" instead of the "e". Occasionally a "k" in place of the "c."

It's from a German/Dutch word that essentially means "f@cked up" -- but literally it's "sh@tted up".

Semantically, OTOH, you are right. Ted and Ernie "sollt seyn wie eyn tschaendelier. Sollt haengen und brennen."

("...should be like a chandelier -- he should hang and burn!" -- Yiddish is given to extreme expressions, so please understand I don't mean that literally!)


Actually, PIF, your spelling is not accurate.

"Verkocht" or "verkochte" would translate to "cooked."

It should be "verkackte", the German word root being "die Kacke."

That's the children-present version of the English "poo-poo," which one would use instead of "die Scheisse," or "sh#t."

Although, it must be said, people use "Scheisse" much more conversationally in Germany than people use "sh#t" in the USA.

"Verschissen" is also used to mean "screwed-up" as in, "You really blew it." Literally, it means you sh#t yourself.

Either way, it's applicable to the Wizards' so-called "process" in hiring a new coach. Self-cooked. Self-sh#tted. Whatever. Or both. First you cook yourself. Then you sh#t yourself. That's the Wizards' way!

#FireEFG

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Whoops. Queridiculo got on it quicker and clearer than I did. But my point remains.

#FireEFG


Yes, you have said the same thing as Queridiculo, and like Queridiculo you failed to read these words in my post above: "Yiddish is actually written using Hebrew letters."

There is no accurate or inaccurate way of "spelling" Yiddish using Roman letters. Whatever you do, all you are doing is trying to "transliterate" -- i.e. to capture the *sound* not the *sense.*

That said, you are correct that it's more often transliterated w/ a "k" than an "h."



Please, It's Fatiguing.

Unfortunately for both of us, I did read your post. I'll try to avoid that in the future.

I did not, however, say anything about Hebrew, Yiddish, spelling Yiddish words using the Roman alphabet, or transliteration. I'm not an expert on any of them. But I am fluent in German, the language from which you referenced the word root of your incorrect transliteration. I simply pointed out the inaccuracy of your post about the German word.

Kacke, indeed.

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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#362 » by gambitx777 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:32 pm

One thing is for sure, guys like Eddie and Kelly will get playing time with brooks here! We need to resign Eddie, the kid can shoot and I think Brooks can help him a lot. He made Andre Roberts almost playable he could turn Eddie in to a solid rotation guy.
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#363 » by nuposse04 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:47 pm

gambitx777 wrote:One thing is for sure, guys like Eddie and Kelly will get playing time with brooks here! We need to resign Eddie, the kid can shoot and I think Brooks can help him a lot. He made Andre Roberts almost playable he could turn Eddie in to a solid rotation guy.


Eddie is going to be 25 at seasons start. I'm guessing he is who he is at this point. Maybe he can incrementally improve some but I don't think he has the pedigree to expect major improvement coming. I do think the FO should focus on picking up at least one "cast off" young big man on the cheap and see if Brooks can turn him into a rotations player. Christian Wood might be an option in the summer pending the direction the sixers go. Hell maybe we can squeeze Richaun Holmes out of em.

Maybe Aaron White comes this offseason as well? (I don't know his contract details) but I'm just hoping that Ted enforces some arbitrary rule "No FAs over 28 years old.".....one can dream I suppose.
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#364 » by fishercob » Mon Apr 25, 2016 4:52 pm

gambitx777 wrote:One thing is for sure, guys like Eddie and Kelly will get playing time with brooks here! We need to resign Eddie, the kid can shoot and I think Brooks can help him a lot. He made Andre Roberts almost playable he could turn Eddie in to a solid rotation guy.


I cannot for the life of me think of why someone would lump Oubre and Eddie in together.

Oubre is a high upside prospect -- raw, with great physical tools, in need of development.

Eddie -- will be 25 when the season starts, and has shown very little upside. He shot 32% from three with a TS% of .460! BYE.
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#365 » by gambitx777 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 5:01 pm

nuposse04 wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:One thing is for sure, guys like Eddie and Kelly will get playing time with brooks here! We need to resign Eddie, the kid can shoot and I think Brooks can help him a lot. He made Andre Roberts almost playable he could turn Eddie in to a solid rotation guy.


Eddie is going to be 25 at seasons start. I'm guessing he is who he is at this point. Maybe he can incrementally improve some but I don't think he has the pedigree to expect major improvement coming. I do think the FO should focus on picking up at least one "cast off" young big man on the cheap and see if Brooks can turn him into a rotations player. Christian Wood might be an option in the summer pending the direction the sixers go. Hell maybe we can squeeze Richaun Holmes out of em.

Maybe Aaron White comes this offseason as well? (I don't know his contract details) but I'm just hoping that Ted enforces some arbitrary rule "No FAs over 28 years old.".....one can dream I suppose.

I don't think that matters I think players can learn and evolve all the time, and I think he could get better with a HC who is willing to use him the right way, and I think brooks might be able to get him to buy into playing some D. I would love to go and sign a couple of solid young bigs I'd be ok with giving Wood a chance,Try Thompkins maybe? I would love to bring Aaron White over, he is shooting well over seeas. We need to get a couple of good youg centers, like actual back up centers.
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#366 » by Wizardspride » Tue Apr 26, 2016 12:40 am

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Can Scott Brooks solve the Wizards' identity problem?


Deciding whether a team has an "identity" calls to mind the classic U.S. Supreme Court definition of pornography: it's hard to define exactly, but you know it when you see it -- and in the case of NBA teams, you definitely know when you don't.

It's hard to even say whether you can craft an identity top-down -- by plucking the right free agents and college kids -- or if a team must happen upon one organically through some semi-random process of self-discovery. The Wizards of 2015-16 tried to manufacture an identity on short notice while saving cash for a plastic surgery job in July. They haphazardly crafted a pace-and-space team while winky-wink flirting with Thunder forward Kevin Durant, and after six injury-riddled months of aimless flailing on the court, they may end up with neither.

On Friday, Washington banked the next phase of its development on a coach seeking his own identity, even after guiding Oklahoma City within three games of a title way ahead of schedule. Ask the Wizards what they see in former Thunder coach Scott Brooks, and you'll hear the usual: He's a wonderful man, players will go to war for him, and he'll coach up the young guys -- just as he did with the once-youthful Thunder. He's a warm, encouraging spirit, and that matters over the slog of 82 games. For better or worse, it will create a different vibe than recently departed Randy Wittman's sometimes ornery perfectionism.




All the Durant buzz now says he wants no part of going home, but be careful what you believe. Most of that chatter comes from people three, four and five steps removed from Durant's tight-lipped inner circle at Roc Nation -- gossipy types who dial up the NBA's telephone game. The Lakers are in it, then out of it, then in it again -- and don't forget about the Warriors! I will say this: The Spurs buzz is ascendant in a way that is eerily similar to what happened last Januaryat the D-League Showcase, when a half-dozen unconnected team executives warned me over the span of a few days that LaMarcus Aldridge would bolt from Portland for San Antonio. Who knows. At the very least, the Wizards will get a chance to make their pitch.

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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#367 » by keynote » Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:41 am



The money quote for me:
Some of this is bad luck; the Wizards have a well-respected training staff, and they've been quietly ahead of the curve in some areas of analytics and biometrics.
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Is that true!? Do we finally have what passes for a "well-respected" training staff? As I've said in other threads, the only guy in recent memory who's improved his body/athleticism during his tenure on the Wizards is Temple. Everybody else is more or less who they were when they arrived in DC, or worse. Wall's a little thicker, but it's not 100% lean muscle. Vesely bulked up a little, but in a way that cost him some explosiveness, so that's a fail. Porter's barely bulked up (but hope springs eternal). Seraphin dropped a little weight during his last season in DC, if memory serves. That's about it.

And, as far as injury prevention and recovery goes, there's not much evidence of success either. But, admittedly, this might be harder for the average fan to quantify. Who knows how many *more* injuries the team would've endured, but for the "well-respected" training staff's ministrations. And, Nene "Mr. Glass" Hilario stayed fairly healthy. So, whoever was involved the process to reapply his duct tape before every game deserves some props.

Anyway, during the '00s, I had assumed that our training staff was among the worst in the league. There were too many horror stories (Rip, Jarvis, Etan, Gilbert) to think otherwise. If Lowe is accurate, I'm glad that perceptions are changing.
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#368 » by CobraCommander » Tue Apr 26, 2016 3:27 am

fishercob wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:One thing is for sure, guys like Eddie and Kelly will get playing time with brooks here! We need to resign Eddie, the kid can shoot and I think Brooks can help him a lot. He made Andre Roberts almost playable he could turn Eddie in to a solid rotation guy.


I cannot for the life of me think of why someone would lump Oubre and Eddie in together.

Oubre is a high upside prospect -- raw, with great physical tools, in need of development.

Eddie -- will be 25 when the season starts, and has shown very little upside. He shot 32% from three with a TS% of .460! BYE.



I think Eddie has talent and can really shoot. I don't know if he is going to be good but I would like to see if he can become a rotation guy with real coaching. John creates a lot of wide open shots. Our problem last year was that our shooters couldn't guard their position on the other end (DUDLEY comes to mind).

One other thing that confuses me is...how this board treats the age of 25 like it is NBA middle age...when guys like Whiteside have had one good year and he is 26- so you can develop into something after the age of 25.

Also when you look at guys like Mike Miller (last year) and Paul Pierce still being in the league you have to think a 25 year old Eddie can contribute at least as much as they can to a team.
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Post#369 » by Kanyewest » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:24 am

The Wizards are one of the few franchises that uses vr (virtual reality) equipment. http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2016/02/11/20160210-virtual-real-btp-promo.nba/
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#370 » by gambitx777 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:29 am

My opinion players don't stop being young until they are about 28, give or take. Just my opinion. I like eddie as a shooter, I think brooks gets the best out of guys and I think Eddie can turn into a good spot up shooter,
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Post#371 » by doclinkin » Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:29 pm

WizTom wrote:
payitforward wrote:
WizTom wrote:
Actually, PIF, your spelling is not accurate.

"Verkocht" or "verkochte" would translate to "cooked."

It should be "verkackte", the German word root being "die Kacke."

That's the children-present version of the English "poo-poo," which one would use instead of "die Scheisse," or "sh#t."

Although, it must be said, people use "Scheisse" much more conversationally in Germany than people use "sh#t" in the USA.

"Verschissen" is also used to mean "screwed-up" as in, "You really blew it." Literally, it means you sh#t yourself.

Either way, it's applicable to the Wizards' so-called "process" in hiring a new coach. Self-cooked. Self-sh#tted. Whatever. Or both. First you cook yourself. Then you sh#t yourself. That's the Wizards' way!

#FireEFG

Edit:
Whoops. Queridiculo got on it quicker and clearer than I did. But my point remains.

#FireEFG


Yes, you have said the same thing as Queridiculo, and like Queridiculo you failed to read these words in my post above: "Yiddish is actually written using Hebrew letters."

There is no accurate or inaccurate way of "spelling" Yiddish using Roman letters. Whatever you do, all you are doing is trying to "transliterate" -- i.e. to capture the *sound* not the *sense.*

That said, you are correct that it's more often transliterated w/ a "k" than an "h."



Please, It's Fatiguing.

Unfortunately for both of us, I did read your post. I'll try to avoid that in the future.

I did not, however, say anything about Hebrew, Yiddish, spelling Yiddish words using the Roman alphabet, or transliteration. I'm not an expert on any of them. But I am fluent in German, the language from which you referenced the word root of your incorrect transliteration. I simply pointed out the inaccuracy of your post about the German word.

Kacke, indeed.

#FireEFG


Yiddish scholar Leo Rosten suggests 'farchadat', rhyming with "car got it" with the 'CH' sound like Scottish sound "ach", like a slight clearing of phlegm. Slavic root 'chad' meaning 'smoke' or 'daze'.

Definition being: dizzy, dopey, confused, causing a headache. Also: surprised, stunned, shocked, confused.


I like better: farschtinkener. Meaning: stinking, all-stunk-up.

Rosten says:
This uncouth word may be shunned by keepers of the flame, but expresses feeling forcefully.
"What a farschtinkener business" has the edge on "What a stinking business," in my opinion, because the sh is more eloquent than the s in the communication of obloquious nuances. It is also more chic to enlist a foreign word when driven to course utterances.

"At a dinner party a farschtinkener anti-Semite, recounting his trip to central Africa, said, "it was wonderful, I didn't run into a single pig or Jew."
A hush fell over the table.
Then the voice of a Jewish guest was heard. "What a pity. The two of us could have corrected that so easily."
"Oh? How?"
"We could have gone there together."

(Joys of Yiddish, Leo Rosten, McGraw Hill, 1968)
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#372 » by AFM » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:18 am

Kanyewest wrote:The Wizards are one of the few franchises that uses vr (virtual reality) equipment. http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2016/02/11/20160210-virtual-real-btp-promo.nba/


Yes, EG watches virtual reality POV porn in his office.
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Post#373 » by keynote » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:03 pm

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Post#374 » by keynote » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:10 pm

Ted said that fans can look forward to a "more sophisticated offensive scheme." Not the first thing one would associate with Brooks.
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#375 » by Sluggerface » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:15 pm

Ayyy Brooks went to sloan this year!

At least we have one person in the organization now that actually went :roll:
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Post#376 » by keynote » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:31 pm

Ted sets the goal for next season as "qualifying for the playoffs." Reach for the stars, Ted.
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Post#377 » by WizKid25 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 6:38 pm

Concern anybody else that Brooks didn't (couldn't?) provide specifics about the offensive and defensive schemes he wants to bring?
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Post#378 » by DCZards » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:03 pm

WizKid25 wrote:Concern anybody else that Brooks didn't (couldn't?) provide specifics about the offensive and defensive schemes he wants to bring?


Nah, I think he's wise to select a coaching staff and meet with his key players before going public with any specifics. There's no rush.
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Re: The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13) 

Post#379 » by 80sballboy » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:09 pm

DCZards wrote:
WizKid25 wrote:Concern anybody else that Brooks didn't (couldn't?) provide specifics about the offensive and defensive schemes he wants to bring?


Nah, I think he's wise to select a coaching staff and meet with his key players before going public with any specifics. There's no rush.


There's the (iso) scheme with KD and more ballmoving scheme with player (s) in option B.
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Post#380 » by 80sballboy » Wed Apr 27, 2016 7:12 pm

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