
So delicious. Every sigh, every furled brow.
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:My favorite memory? I got to watch this cuz guys cared enough to PM me on the live stream.
Wow.
Mojo Amok wrote:AFM wrote:DCZards wrote:
Game is at 1pm Sunday on ABC.
Ouch. When was the last time the wiz had a good Sunday afternoon game? They always come out sleepwalking.
Make the game thread early and we build good juju with proper animal kingdom pics.
80sballboy wrote:deneem4 wrote:Wall is on the same level as kwahi and it's not up for debate
Khawi has rings. Best two-way player in the game. I won't go that far until John gets close to one. But he has put himself into the conversation as top point guard.
80sballboy wrote:Meliorus wrote:80sballboy wrote:
Khawi has rings. Best two-way player in the game. I won't go that far until John gets close to one. But he has put himself into the conversation as top point guard.
To even put the blame on Wall is absurd. Look at what the front office has done for Wall, look at the defensive system of San Antonio (that somehow gets away with playing Parker huge minutes).
What the hell are you talking about? What did I ever blame Wall for. I think he's fantastic. Just think Leonard is special. Do you think Kawhi has a great team in San Antonio? He doesn't. He had a lot of old heads and Aldridge. Yes, great coach and system in San Antonio but Kawhi brings it in both ends better than every player. Did anybody watch the Memphis Game 4 when he simply carried the Spurs into overtime but Gasol finished it for the Grizz? He's spectacular but does it in a quiet way. Love John, but again, until you can get past the second round, you aren't going to get great national respect.
Mojo Amok wrote:Am I the only one who gets nice and aroused when a video pops up on NBA.COM with a press conference video titled 'Hawks Lament Mental Lapses As Season Ends'?
So delicious. Every sigh, every furled brow.
AFM wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:My favorite memory? I got to watch this cuz guys cared enough to PM me on the live stream.
Wow.
Couldn't let you watch the box score bruh! Your words on this board have helped me too much in the past years. Ken I'm trying to be MORE like you.
Hope you can catch the game on Sunday too. I know it's hard to get away from the beach and the strawberry margaritasMust be nice to live in Hawaii.
Meliorus wrote:
Couple more years of this and he can get up there in the all-time point guard rankings. A guy like Westbrook could only dream of that efficiency.

CobraCommander wrote:Meliorus wrote:
Couple more years of this and he can get up there in the all-time point guard rankings. A guy like Westbrook could only dream of that efficiency.
This is laughable....dont fall for this backhanded compliment. "One of the best point guards in the east"....HI-Fing-Larious
East guards
T.J. McConnell (Philadelphia 76ers), Jeremy Lin, Rondo,Malcolm Brogdon, the carcass of Derrick Rose, Reggie Jackson, Jeff Teague, Goran Dragic, Scccchröder (use German accent to say his name), Kemba, Isiah, Kyle 'Intermittent performance' Lowery, Uncle Drew (hard shot taker- big shot maker...but actually the 2 on cavs)...
Now who is this list is as good as John at POINT GUARD... (notice no question mark because im not asking you...my comment was retorical). Kyrie, Kemba and Isiah all would be better 2 guards than John but not point because they are score first guards. Derrick Rose's career is like RG3s - oft injured and doesnt appear to be smart enough to change his game to match his bodies capabilities. Rondo and Gordon are decent but not on the same level as John at this point in thier careers...but can play point. Brogdon too young to tell. TJ tries hard so i respect that...but the talent ceiling is there and there is nothing he can do about it... Houston, Lakers, NYKnicks know what the Nets will find out next year...Lin cant be your starting point guard if you want to be a winning team. Teague...blah. Reggie appears to be a bad teammate. And Kyle is aight but is too inconsistent at the big moments to be elite.
These types of 'compliments' should PISS john off. Separate yourself from the pack JW. Oh btw...Beal should do the same thing if someone says Beal is ONE OF THE BEST TWO GUARDS IN EAST...he should make his list and go get Derozen and ask what position does Butler play and ON AND ON AND ON...

CobraCommander wrote:Meliorus wrote:
Couple more years of this and he can get up there in the all-time point guard rankings. A guy like Westbrook could only dream of that efficiency.
This is laughable....dont fall for this backhanded compliment. "One of the best point guards in the east"....HI-Fing-Larious
nate33 wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Meliorus wrote:
Couple more years of this and he can get up there in the all-time point guard rankings. A guy like Westbrook could only dream of that efficiency.
This is laughable....dont fall for this backhanded compliment. "One of the best point guards in the east"....HI-Fing-Larious
The bottom line is that Wall is the best guard in the East and a top 4 player in the East. Lebron is the best player. After that, it's Giannis, Wall and Butler in some order. Wall is definitely ahead of the next tier of guys which includes Derozan, Kyrie, Irving, George, Thomas, Lowry and Beal.
nate33 wrote:CobraCommander wrote:Meliorus wrote:
Couple more years of this and he can get up there in the all-time point guard rankings. A guy like Westbrook could only dream of that efficiency.
This is laughable....dont fall for this backhanded compliment. "One of the best point guards in the east"....HI-Fing-Larious
The bottom line is that Wall is the best guard in the East and a top 4 player in the East. Lebron is the best player. After that, it's Giannis, Wall and Butler in some order. Wall is definitely ahead of the next tier of guys which includes Derozan, Kyrie, Irving, George, Thomas, Lowry and Beal.
Meliorus wrote:nate33 wrote:CobraCommander wrote:
This is laughable....dont fall for this backhanded compliment. "One of the best point guards in the east"....HI-Fing-Larious
The bottom line is that Wall is the best guard in the East and a top 4 player in the East. Lebron is the best player. After that, it's Giannis, Wall and Butler in some order. Wall is definitely ahead of the next tier of guys which includes Derozan, Kyrie, Irving, George, Thomas, Lowry and Beal.
I have a big problem with Butler being in the top 4, give me George instead. Butler cannot control the offense like Wall does, nowhere near the number of points Wall generates for himself and teammates. Too often does he have a performance of ISO midrange chucking. This playoff series was enough to show his true value.
And honestly how much can a high usage offensive wing player impact the defense? Every defensive wing/guard is overrated to some degree, everyone goes by reputation. So it's pretty safe to say Butler isn't shutting anyone down.

Meliorus wrote:I have a big problem with Butler being in the top 4, give me George instead. Butler cannot control the offense like Wall does, nowhere near the number of points Wall generates for himself and teammates. Too often does he have a performance of ISO midrange chucking. This playoff series was enough to show his true value.
And honestly how much can a high usage offensive wing player impact the defense? Every defensive wing/guard is overrated to some degree, everyone goes by reputation. So it's pretty safe to say Butler isn't shutting anyone down.
John Wall's 4th quarter last night was one for the ages!
Wall came back in w/ @ 8.5 minutes left, & immediately blocked Schroder's open layup. Then he went on to dominate the rest of the game totally, leading a defense that held the Hawks to only 9 more points while himself scoring 17 of our last 22 points by going 6-8 from the floor & 5-6 from the line. Wow...!