Political Roundtable Part XXIX

[Ruzious]

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2 members of the WH press corps that have been infected - perhaps by Trump not following guidelines.

[Wizardspride]

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[Ruzious]

When everything calms down, the question has to be asked by the world, how is it possible - that in a garden party at the WH celebrating a SC nomination - so many ADULTS with important responsibilities and families failed to take the minimum care to keep themselves AND OTHERS safe?

[Zonkerbl]

Russian trollfarm employees spreading the idiotic idea that since only Republicans are getting sick, it's a Dem attack. :eyeroll:

Also, given how many elderly Republicans have been infected, there's a better than fifty fifty chance that at least one of them dies.

[doclinkin]

Russian trollfarm employees spreading the idiotic idea that since only Republicans are getting sick, it's a Dem attack. :eyeroll:

Also, given how many elderly Republicans have been infected, there's a better than fifty fifty chance that at least one of them dies.

Unlikely. They are well-off important white folks with free government health care that provides access to the best medicine. They were tested early and have vacation and sick days and can afford not to wait on a doctors appointment. And no doctor will make them wait a week or so for that appointment. They don't have to wait until they are sick enough to need emergency care. Survival rate on COVID has improved as they have learned from the hundreds and thousands of deaths. But the greatest factor on survival seems to be: did you wait too late to get treatment?, and, are you brown skinned and poor in an overwhelmed community hospital, and therefore less of a priority on the care list? All the reasons why we should have socialized medicine available not just for members of congress and those in government jobs.

[Wizardspride]

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[dobrojim]

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I just can't understand why so many people despise such a sweet man.

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[montestewart]

Russian trollfarm employees spreading the idiotic idea that since only Republicans are getting sick, it's a Dem attack. :eyeroll:

Also, given how many elderly Republicans have been infected, there's a better than fifty fifty chance that at least one of them dies.

As opposed to the main of of Democrat words and actions, Republicans have dismissed COVID as exaggerated or an outright hoax, responded to it with partisan favoritism, denounced rules, regulations, and guidelines promoting or dictating masks, social distancing, minimizing gatherings, and other precautions. Religious and secular conservative groups have frequently held large gatherings, both outdoors and indoors, without masks. Attendance at a large and largely maskless indoor gathering at the White House a week ago corresponds with a growing list of top Republicans testing positive for COVID.

On the surface, what should immediately come to mind is poetic justice, absurdist irony, hoist with their own petard, a COVID self-own circle jerk. Obviously, their own arrogance, obliviousness, callousness, selfishness, etc. directly contributed to this potentially fatal debacle. To paraphrase Occam's Trac II Razor channeled carelessly through No **** Sherlock, "Once you eliminate the plausibly deniable, whatever remains, no matter how darkly comic, well that's gotta be the truth." It is so plain on its face how this has happened. To assert otherwise would be like looking at the final score of last night's game and insisting that the Heat won. Or it's like this guy:

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Therefore, it is the perfect time for a Democratic operative to conduct a sabotage operation to expose Trump and other top Republicans to COVID (call it "Operation All Teary"). The Republicans' own litany of blithe and bumpkin-like carelessness is the perfect rebuttal to such a ridiculous assertion. The only people that could possibly believe such an unhinged allegation are people who would literally believe anything Trump and his minions and acolytes say, anything at all, no matter how ridiculous. Them and the Democrats who planned it and pulled it off. And, of course, me.

[Ruzious]

I'm starting to think - maybe we need to see proof that he tested positive. Nah, nobody could be stupid enough to fake getting Covid 19... right?

[pancakes3]

way too dumb, and doesn't make sense that others like KAC also reporting positive. it's also throwing an unnecessary wrench into the confirmation process too - McConnell said that he's suspending all senate proceedings *except* confirmation, which is just ludicrous.

[dckingsfan]

When everything calms down, the question has to be asked by the world, how is it possible - that in a garden party at the WH celebrating a SC nomination - so many ADULTS with important responsibilities and families failed to take the minimum care to keep themselves AND OTHERS safe?

Or how is it possible that anyone still supports this guy when he put so many people at risk.

[Kanyewest]

I'm starting to think - maybe we need to see proof that he tested positive. Nah, nobody could be stupid enough to fake getting Covid 19... right?

There are actually quite few people (most notably Michael Moore) that have suggested that he is lying about getting it in a political maneuver and they make the case that one can't trust anything that Trump says to be true because he's lying so much.

That being said, I think he got it.

[dckingsfan]

I'm starting to think - maybe we need to see proof that he tested positive. Nah, nobody could be stupid enough to fake getting Covid 19... right?

There are actually quite few people (most notably Michael Moore) that have suggested that he is lying about getting it in a political maneuver and they make the case that one can't trust anything that Trump says to be true because he's lying so much.

That being said, I think he got it.

I don't think he ever gets it

[Pointgod]

When everything calms down, the question has to be asked by the world, how is it possible - that in a garden party at the WH celebrating a SC nomination - so many ADULTS with important responsibilities and families failed to take the minimum care to keep themselves AND OTHERS safe?

Or how is it possible that anyone still supports this guy when he put so many people at risk.

The polls after his debate performance have cratered. This is before the covid announcement.

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[dobrojim]

I've heard suggestions that getting covid won't hurt him in the polls/election.
Not that I have understand his people very well, but I'm not buying it.
First of all, the number of undecideds (not already his people) are not
enough to help himto any significant degree, people that disapprove of
him are not generally that sympathetic to his situation. I'd lean towards a
prediction that he will lose even more support, at the margin.

[Kanyewest]

President Trump is creating his own legacy https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/10/04/walter-reed-attending-physician-calls-president-trump-coronavirus-drive-by-political-theater-and-insanity/

[Ruzious]

President Trump is creating his own legacy https://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2020/10/04/walter-reed-attending-physician-calls-president-trump-coronavirus-drive-by-political-theater-and-insanity/

He needs to have someone in charge of him - to chaperone him - to keep him from doing idiotic things like that. In a lot of ways, he has the mindset of a grade school kid. Maybe Hope Hicks served that purpose before she got ill.

[Ruzious]

So many Trump supporters showed up for the spectacle. Look at the tens of hundr... oh, well, several people showed up.

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[Zonkerbl]

Ominous words from the Wikipedia article on Germany's 1932 presidential elections (that Hitler lost by what would be considered a landslide today)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1932_German_presidential_election#:~:text=President%2DElect&text=The%201932%20German%20presidential%20election,German%20Workers%20Party%20(NSDAP).

"Although the Weimar Constitution had provided for a semi-presidential republic, structural weaknesses had resulted in a paralyzed Reichstag and this combined with the Great Depression resulted in a government that had governed exclusively via presidential decrees since March 1930, giving the President much power."