Jump into the Poole Party: The Official Jordan Poole Thread

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Have to say it’s been fun to watch Poole this season. Even if he falls apart at times or makes a questionable decision like letting Chris Paul get in his head, he’s still dynamic and creative. Given that we’re looking for losses anyway. it’s all good. This was the Poole we were expecting to see when we traded for him. Roller coaster thrills.

[tontoz]

He's shooting 3s well but is pretty bad in other areas. 47% on 2s. 4.4 assists and 3.5 turnovers. 2 rebounds per game.

He is getting steals which is probably the only other thing he does well.

[Wizardspride]

He's shooting 3s well but is pretty bad in other areas. 47% on 2s. 4.4 assists and 3.5 turnovers. 2 rebounds per game.

Is this significantly worse than his peers (other starting pgs)?

[tontoz]

He's shooting 3s well but is pretty bad in other areas. 47% on 2s. 4.4 assists and 3.5 turnovers. 2 rebounds per game.

Is this significantly worse than his peers (other starting pgs)?

I would expect 50% for an average starter. Guys like Kyrie and Steph are mid 50s.

Poole is shooting 58% at the rim which worse than his last 4 years by 10%+.

[Kanyewest]

He's shooting 3s well but is pretty bad in other areas. 47% on 2s. 4.4 assists and 3.5 turnovers. 2 rebounds per game.

Is this significantly worse than his peers (other starting pgs)?

Attempting to calculate from statmuse where they give field goal percentages among all positions (including bench players) from this appears 51% for point guards and 51.4% from shooting guards. So it is slightly below average. https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-league-average-2-point-percentage-by-position

Other random factoid, this season Jordan Poole is shooting 92.3 FT% which is the same as Jonan Valančiūnas

[penbeast0]

Wonder if any fish are nibbling now that he's off to a good start.

[DCZards]

He's shooting 3s well but is pretty bad in other areas. 47% on 2s. 4.4 assists and 3.5 turnovers. 2 rebounds per game.

Is this significantly worse than his peers (other starting pgs)?

I would expect 50% for an average starter. Guys like Kyrie and Steph are mid 50s.

Poole is shooting 58% at the rim which worse than his last 4 years by 10%+.

He’s also often sharing the court with two 19 yr olds and two 20 yr olds…and getting a lot of the defense’s attention.

No Steph. No Klay. None of Draymond’s playmaking.

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Overall, per 40 minutes, Poole is playing at a somewhat better than average productivity level for an NBA PG.

As to his scoring, the guy is posting a .613 TS% -- waaay above average for a guard.

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Overall, per 40 minutes, Poole is playing at a somewhat better than average productivity level for an NBA PG.

As to his scoring, the guy is posting a .613 TS% -- waaay above average for a guard.

Just chiming in to say this. By the statmuse chart above he’s far better than the TS of .554 for PGs league wide. In no small part because of that 90+ from the line and his ability to force fouls.

His gambling on Defense is bad for team D but exciting to watch. Perfect for a tank year. You can imagine it’d be even less of a liability if we had a reliable intimidator behind him. Let the long defenders around him force bad passes. Let him jump the passing lanes. And if he missed his guess still there’s a safety net. But Sarr is not quite there yet. He’s blocking shots but not quite scaring anybody.

No matter. Poole’s notably streaky. A confidence based player. Odds are he cools off some but if he can sustain this for a long stretch of season there will definitely be interest, especially if a contending team loses a starter.

[tontoz]

Is this significantly worse than his peers (other starting pgs)?

I would expect 50% for an average starter. Guys like Kyrie and Steph are mid 50s.

Poole is shooting 58% at the rim which worse than his last 4 years by 10%+.

He’s also often sharing the court with two 19 yr olds and two 20 yr olds…and getting a lot of the defense’s attention.

No Steph. No Klay. None of Draymond’s playmaking.

Poole was sharing the court with young guys last year too and shot 71% at the rim compared to 58% this season. He is throwing up too many garbage shots inside that have little chance of going in.

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I would expect 50% for an average starter. Guys like Kyrie and Steph are mid 50s.

Poole is shooting 58% at the rim which worse than his last 4 years by 10%+.

He’s also often sharing the court with two 19 yr olds and two 20 yr olds…and getting a lot of the defense’s attention.

No Steph. No Klay. None of Draymond’s playmaking.

Poole was sharing the court with young guys last year too and shot 71% at the rim compared to 58% this season. He is throwing up too many garbage shots inside that have little chance of going in.

Once again... Jordan Poole is posting a Total Scoring % of 61.3% -- counting all those "garbage shots."

OTOH, you are certainly correct: he is not as good as Steph or Kyrie. & if his % at the rim were better, his overall numbers would be still better than they are.

All the same... sure beats last year!

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It took him a year to regain his confidence after getting sucker punched by his teammate and getting zero support from his coach. Last year was an aberration. That's the theory I'm going with.

[Wizardspride]

It took him a year to regain his confidence after getting sucker punched by his teammate and getting zero support from his coach. Last year was an aberration. That's the theory I'm going with.

Or it just took the Wiz playing him at the point guard position.

[penbeast0]

He's much better so far this year than even during his hot streak last year (after being one of the two worst players in the league for most of the year). And, he's doing it at SG.

[payitforward]

It took him a year to regain his confidence after getting sucker punched by his teammate and getting zero support from his coach. Last year was an aberration. That's the theory I'm going with.

Nah.... He had 4 years on GS & was really bad in 3 of them. He has talent, no doubt. But we just have to hope he puts it all together as a Wizard. So far this year pretty good.

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[nate33]

The Jordan Poole we've seen this season (and the last 20 games of last season) is the Jordan Poole I expected we would get when we traded Chris Paul for him. He's not really a winning player, but he's a serviceable primary option for a bad team who needs someone to take on the scoring load while the other young players develop with less defensive attention. Frankly, he has been good enough offensively for the team to steal more than just 3 wins this season. If the defense wasn't such a mess, the Wizards should have 5 or 6 wins.

[The Consiglieri]

Anybody hear rumors on whether he might be movable this deadline with 2.5 years left on his deal? Long term we've got no interest in retaining him and it definitely seems like this is the year to do it.

[DCZards]

The Jordan Poole we've seen this season (and the last 20 games of last season) is the Jordan Poole I expected we would get when we traded Chris Paul for him. He's not really a winning player, but he's a serviceable primary option for a bad team who needs someone to take on the scoring load while the other young players develop with less defensive attention.

This is an important point that those who want the Zards to go strictly with the youngins overlook. Poole's presence as a genuine offensive threat makes the game a lot easier for guys like Bub, Bilal, George and Butler.