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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#41 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:02 am

Sad that the second quarter is probably going to doom us.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#42 » by 80sballboy » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:05 am

Shelvin Mack should only shoot at the end of quarters. :wink:
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#43 » by kirubel94 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:06 am

How about Okafor on the boards tonight?? They might get something valuable in return for him.
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Post#44 » by CntOutSmrtCrazy » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:09 am

Lol I love the Wiz Board. Every time one of our players play good its upping his trade value. :P
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#45 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:19 am

Good effort. Good job.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#46 » by hands11 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:26 am

Observations.

Please cut Martin already. He is so undependable.
Add anyone who can shot the 3 ball.

Brady Beal needs a game face. I'm getting sick of his court demeanor. He has that NY smiley non serious look on his face every time he does something good. Get over it. Youre expected to do good things. The kid can really drive which is impressive. He can't shoot for crap though and we drafted him to shoot well. Bottom line. He isn't ready to start. Way to incomplete and to immature.

Again. Cut Martin and bring in anyone who is a pure shooter. Lack of a 3 ball lost the game for them tonight. Belinelli killed them with his shooting. 4 extra 3 balls was the difference in the game.

Wizards out rebounded them. FT were the same. FGA about the same. Just need a 3 ball shooter.

They probably could have won with Crawford, but even then, they still need to add a three ball shooter. Martin is useless regardless of what his stats say because you can't count on him. He shows up to infrequently. Should have kept Mason but even that is just the min of what they need.

I knew Nene would have a tough night with Noah guarding him but he battled. But he missed to many FTA

Okafor was a beast. Great game. 18 rebounds. He and Nene are enough to man the post.

Add Wall, Crawford and a 3 ball shooter along with Trevor A, and they would win plenty of games.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#47 » by LyricalRico » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:33 am

hands11 wrote:Okafor was a beast. Great game. 18 rebounds. He and Nene are enough to man the post.


Always said I liked the thought of them as a combo. What could have been had everyone been healthy...
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#48 » by hands11 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:39 am

LyricalRico wrote:
hands11 wrote:Okafor was a beast. Great game. 18 rebounds. He and Nene are enough to man the post.


Always said I liked the thought of them as a combo. What could have been had everyone been healthy...


Still need a 3 ball shooter but I say playoffs.

Webster is not really a starter. He is what Martin is supposed to be. Dump Martin and add someone that is actually an NBA player.

I can't believe Crawford was out. But given he was, they kept it closer then I thought they would. Amazing rebounding all game.

They were 7th in the league going in. I think they will end up even higher after 56 tonight.

They are 30th in scoring. Please add a 3 baller. It would make such a big difference. Not only do they need the pts, but it would open everything up.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#49 » by AFM » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:41 am

Okafor + Nene = BeastMode Front Court

Martin is so bad. Seriously, cut him, go to DLeague.com, click "stats", sort by "3PT FG%", and sign whoever is at the top.

Seraphin is a black hole, literally sucking matter and time into him whenever he gets the ball. If he got the ball at the 3 point line with no one in front of him, he would probably try a hook shot for 3.
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Post#50 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:52 am

I don't like the way the WIzards lost, I was into the game feeling the defensive effort thinking the Wizards would play smart basketball to pull even and possibly take the lead but they didn't. How isn't it Randy Wittman's fault that the Wizards put zero pressure on the Bulls defense having them over the team foul limit with almost nine minutes left to play in the game? Why was the non-shooting foul at the 5-minute mark that sent Mack to the line the only one within that time?
The finish wipes everything away IMO, because they could've dug their way back in without trying very hard if only they played smart. No way a better team doesn't take advantage of that.

I'm losing some of the love I had for Seraphin; this man has stop being so accepting of making "young" mistakes and being yelled at and get over this learning curve. Also very disappointed at his rebounding in a game where one man nearly pulls down twenty. There was a point where the Wizards could've retained possession during their comeback attempt and Seraphin made a very halfhearted attempt ---in comparison to Okafor's effort--- at securing the ball though it was right there for him. This is getting old, at some point he has to show that he's about progressing in other areas or he may as well be trade bait too.

Great game for Okafor. Garrett Temple looks like he'll be around for a minute.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#51 » by hands11 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:53 am

AFM wrote:Okafor + Nene = BeastMode Front Court

Martin is so bad. Seriously, cut him, go to DLeague.com, click "stats", sort by "3PT FG%", and sign whoever is at the top.


Seraphin is a black hole, literally sucking matter and time into him whenever he gets the ball. If he got the ball at the 3 point line with no one in front of him, he would probably try a hook shot for 3.


Already been doing it for the last week or so. There are some in there. Look at the ones that have higher shot volume. I simply can not stand Martin anymore. He is old enough that he is what he is. He doesn't have the mental edge focus that a NBA player needs. If he hit early, then he believes and he can hit more. If he misses, he chokes and he is useless the rest of the game. He doesn't fill the need he is keep on this roster to fill.

I said before the season started that keeping him was the wrong move. Sadly, he is making like 900K so they aren't cutting him. These are the moves that get me made at EG. How do you pay Martin that money. You have to know the kid doesn't have the stones to do it. You have to read a players personality. He is mentally soft.

That funny about KS. I think he would. He really needs to develop some handles so he can drive.

Why to many stupid unforced errors tonight. Something like 10 at least. But it was the lack of 3 ball shooting that killed them. They could never get over the hump grinding it out 2 pts at a time.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#52 » by 80sballboy » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:05 am

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:I don't like the way the WIzards lost, I was into the game feeling the defensive effort thinking the Wizards would play smart basketball to pull even and possibly take the lead but they didn't. How isn't it Randy Wittman's fault that the Wizards put zero pressure on the Bulls defense having them over the team foul limit with almost nine minutes left to play in the game? Why was the non-shooting foul at the 5-minute mark that sent Mack to the line the only one within that time?
The finish wipes everything away IMO, because they could've dug their way back in without trying very hard if only they played smart. No way a better team doesn't take advantage of that.

I'm losing some of the love I had for Seraphin; this man has stop being so accepting of making "young" mistakes and being yelled at and get over this learning curve. Also very disappointed at his rebounding in a game where one man nearly pulls down twenty. There was a point where the Wizards could've retained possession during their comeback attempt and Seraphin made a very halfhearted attempt ---in comparison to Okafor's effort--- at securing the ball though it was right there for him. This is getting old, at some point he has to show that he's about progressing in other areas or he may as well be trade bait too.

Great game for Okafor. Garrett Temple looks like he'll be around for a minute.


Temple is a clone of about 30-40 6-6 swingmen who yo-yo back and forth to the D-League and overseas. Good defender, decent handle and can't shoot or finish with any consistency. Just nothing special, but that's why he's available. There are very few 3-point shooters (Blake Ahearn?) who are better than Cartier Martin. Belinelli would have looked good in a Wizards uniform as a 2.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#53 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:12 am

80sballboy wrote:
AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:I don't like the way the WIzards lost, I was into the game feeling the defensive effort thinking the Wizards would play smart basketball to pull even and possibly take the lead but they didn't. How isn't it Randy Wittman's fault that the Wizards put zero pressure on the Bulls defense having them over the team foul limit with almost nine minutes left to play in the game? Why was the non-shooting foul at the 5-minute mark that sent Mack to the line the only one within that time?
The finish wipes everything away IMO, because they could've dug their way back in without trying very hard if only they played smart. No way a better team doesn't take advantage of that.

I'm losing some of the love I had for Seraphin; this man has stop being so accepting of making "young" mistakes and being yelled at and get over this learning curve. Also very disappointed at his rebounding in a game where one man nearly pulls down twenty. There was a point where the Wizards could've retained possession during their comeback attempt and Seraphin made a very halfhearted attempt ---in comparison to Okafor's effort--- at securing the ball though it was right there for him. This is getting old, at some point he has to show that he's about progressing in other areas or he may as well be trade bait too.

Great game for Okafor. Garrett Temple looks like he'll be around for a minute.


Temple is a clone of about 30-40 6-6 swingmen who yo-yo back and forth to the D-League and overseas. Good defender, decent handle and can't shoot or finish with any consistency. Just nothing special, but that's why he's available. There are very few 3-point shooters (Blake Ahearn?) who are better than Cartier Martin. Belinelli would have looked good in a Wizards uniform as a 2.


Don't forget professional. He has good size and I think he's a very good perimeter defender.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#54 » by montestewart » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:12 am

hands11 wrote:Please cut Martin already. He is so undependable.

His 3P% is virtually the same as Mason, and if you compared the 3P shooting from any random stretch of games, you wouldn't be able to tell Martin from Mason. In other words, he's no more inconsistent or undependable than Mason, or any number of other 3 point shooters.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#55 » by hands11 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:21 am

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hands11 wrote:Please cut Martin already. He is so undependable.

His 3P% is virtually the same as Mason, and if you compared the 3P shooting from any random stretch of games, you wouldn't be able to tell Martin from Mason. In other words, he's no more inconsistent or undependable than Mason, or any number of other 3 point shooters.


Then I would much rather have Mason. He has won before and a more professional player. Teammates respect him. More likely to step up when needed.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/statistics/p ... ll%20Teams

So is there anyone here we could add ?

http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/g ... stats.html
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/j ... stats.html
http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/a ... stats.html

There ya go. Call up Andy.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#56 » by AFM » Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:36 am

Should sign Arenas and let him stand in the corner and pop the 3. Haha.
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Post#57 » by nate33 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:26 am

montestewart wrote:
hands11 wrote:Please cut Martin already. He is so undependable.

His 3P% is virtually the same as Mason, and if you compared the 3P shooting from any random stretch of games, you wouldn't be able to tell Martin from Mason. In other words, he's no more inconsistent or undependable than Mason, or any number of other 3 point shooters.

Cartier Martin is currently averaging 38% from 3-point range and is only 0.15% behind team leader Martell Webster despite attempting roughly twice as many 3's per minute. Cartier Martin had a bad game, but over the course of the season, he is doing just fine for a minimum salary end-of-bench guy. I seriously doubt anybody from the D-League would do any better.

The guy was supposed to be our 5th swing man behind Beal, Crawford, Ariza and Singleton (and arguably Singleton as well). To try and blame him for our problems is ridiculous. He is playing exactly as expected.
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#58 » by Mickstix » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:33 am

Another loss?? I missed the game.. How does Crawford not play?? Ankle hurt?? Sounds more like "Ok fellas, you won one, lets not get carried away here and screw up our lotto pick.." and the tank was in motion..
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#59 » by Jay81 » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:35 am

great moral win. We beat the bulls without Rose by only losing by 10 points
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Re: GT #28 Wizards @ Bulls 8 PM EST 

Post#60 » by mhd » Sun Dec 30, 2012 6:04 am

Emeka raising the trade value!

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