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Malcolm Brogdon. Wizards guard.

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Re: Malcolm Brogdon. Wizards guard. 

Post#41 » by nate33 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:28 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Plus their FRP and 3 SRPs. That leaves two slots open to take on bad contracts and get more draft assets.


I'd like to see them combine two of those three SRP's to move up. Three rookies is enough.
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Re: Malcolm Brogdon. Wizards guard. 

Post#42 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 26, 2025 4:59 pm

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dckingsfan wrote:My only fear is that they try to sign Bagley, Holmes or Brogdon to one of those declining contracts. It has served them so well with Kuz and Kispert, I could see them doubling down and doing it again.

They should go into the off-season with:

Code: Select all

Player         2025-26
Poole         $31,848,215
Kuzma         $21,477,272
Kispert       $13,975,000
Sarr          $11,808,240
Valančiūnas   $10,395,000
Coulibaly      $7,275,600
Bey            $6,118,644
Carrington     $4,677,600
George         $2,966,760
Team Total   $110,542,331


Plus their FRP and 3 SRPs. That leaves two slots open to take on bad contracts and get more draft assets.

There's no chance they do that.

Brogdon is too old and injury prone to sign to a long term deal.

Bagley will probably be a vet-minimum contract or maybe a room-minimum contract next year. He's good enough to get minutes in this league, but nobody is going to pay him much.

Holmes will definitely be a minimum salary guy and might not even be in the league next year. The guy looked washed in his last two seasons in Sacramento and Dallas, and his stock isn't improving by not getting minutes on the worst team in the league. (He did look decent in his 17-game stint with the Wizards last year.)

My guess is that they're all gone unless one of them chooses to stay on a vet minimum deal. I suppose Brogdon could conceivably be resigned on a 1-year deal for $10M-ish money if we are trying to get up to the minimum salary.

That would be awesome. The teams that could have cap problems are the Celtics, Suns, Nuggets, Magic, Lakers, Knicks, Cavs, Heat and TWovles.

The Celts are pretty locked in well over the cap and will need help. The Suns now have 3 FRPs to trade and they have no PG for next season (at this point). The Nuggets have little in the way of draft assets. The Magic have players and draft capital. The Lakers seem intent on not moving their draft assets, frustrating LeBron :lol: . I can't tell what the Knicks will do. The Cavs won't do any material trades with regards to moving bad contract, IMO. I think that the Heat are stuck with Butler but he could very well opt-out, then they don't have a problem. If either Randle or Reid don't exercise their options, the TWolves are fine.

We do have competition with the Nets for this play. Although, the way this trade deadline is going - draft assets aren't moving that quickly any longer. Speaking of the Nets, they will add 4 :o FRPs to their roster this off-season, maybe 5 and still be able to take on bad contracts. Gonna be "interesting"...

If we can't make a trade, we will be in the historic bad range again, IMO. So, hope for another great draft pick the following year.
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Re: Malcolm Brogdon. Wizards guard. 

Post#43 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 26, 2025 5:13 pm

nate33 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Plus their FRP and 3 SRPs. That leaves two slots open to take on bad contracts and get more draft assets.

I'd like to see them combine two of those three SRP's to move up. Three rookies is enough.

Or take a SRP from a future year along with those 2 SRPs to move up? Or even the 2029 FRP + those 2 SRPs to get a second FRP? I just think that teams like this draft and will be reticent to trade, very much hoping I am wrong.
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Re: Malcolm Brogdon. Wizards guard. 

Post#44 » by nate33 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:10 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
nate33 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Plus their FRP and 3 SRPs. That leaves two slots open to take on bad contracts and get more draft assets.

I'd like to see them combine two of those three SRP's to move up. Three rookies is enough.

Or take a SRP from a future year along with those 2 SRPs to move up? Or even the 2029 FRP + those 2 SRPs to get a second FRP? I just think that teams like this draft and will be reticent to trade, very much hoping I am wrong.

Yeah. Anything that combines quantity to move up in quality.

And if no good trades are available, I'd trade one of those 2025 SRP's for a SRP in 2026 or 2027.
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Re: Malcolm Brogdon. Wizards guard. 

Post#45 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 26, 2025 6:17 pm

nate33 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
nate33 wrote:I'd like to see them combine two of those three SRP's to move up. Three rookies is enough.

Or take a SRP from a future year along with those 2 SRPs to move up? Or even the 2029 FRP + those 2 SRPs to get a second FRP? I just think that teams like this draft and will be reticent to trade, very much hoping I am wrong.

Yeah. Anything that combines quantity to move up in quality.

And if no good trades are available, I'd trade one of those 2025 SRP's for a SRP in 2026 or 2027.

This coaching staff "seems" to be able to handle 3 rookies. So, full agreement with that.
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Post#46 » by gambitx777 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 8:45 pm

dckingsfan wrote:My only fear is that they try to sign Bagley, Holmes or Brogdon to one of those declining contracts. It has served them so well with Kuz and Kispert, I could see them doubling down and doing it again.

They should go into the off-season with:

Code: Select all

Player   2025-26
Poole   $31,848,215
Kuzma   $21,477,272
Kispert   $13,975,000
Sarr   $11,808,240
Valančiūnas   $10,395,000
Coulibaly   $7,275,600
Bey   $6,118,644
Carrington   $4,677,600
George   $2,966,760
Team Totals   $110,542,331


Plus their FRP and 3 SRPs. That leaves two slots open to take on bad contracts and get more draft assets.
So let's say we trade away kuz and Val. I wouldn't be mad if there aren't any other guys out there if we give Brogdon like a 2 year 60 mill with a team option making to a 1 year deal. We are in a good spot if we can't find anyone else to pay next year if Brogdon wants to stay and get one more big pay day and be traded later.

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Post#47 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 26, 2025 9:40 pm

gambitx777 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:My only fear is that they try to sign Bagley, Holmes or Brogdon to one of those declining contracts. It has served them so well with Kuz and Kispert, I could see them doubling down and doing it again.

They should go into the off-season with:

Code: Select all

Player   2025-26
Poole   $31,848,215
Kuzma   $21,477,272
Kispert   $13,975,000
Sarr   $11,808,240
Valančiūnas   $10,395,000
Coulibaly   $7,275,600
Bey   $6,118,644
Carrington   $4,677,600
George   $2,966,760
Team Totals   $110,542,331


Plus their FRP and 3 SRPs. That leaves two slots open to take on bad contracts and get more draft assets.
So let's say we trade away kuz and Val. I wouldn't be mad if there aren't any other guys out there if we give Brogdon like a 2 year 60 mill with a team option making to a 1 year deal. We are in a good spot if we can't find anyone else to pay next year if Brogdon wants to stay and get one more big pay day and be traded later.

Sadly, I could see them signing Brogdon and not being able to trade Kuz.
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Post#48 » by gambitx777 » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:07 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:My only fear is that they try to sign Bagley, Holmes or Brogdon to one of those declining contracts. It has served them so well with Kuz and Kispert, I could see them doubling down and doing it again.

They should go into the off-season with:

Code: Select all

Player   2025-26
Poole   $31,848,215
Kuzma   $21,477,272
Kispert   $13,975,000
Sarr   $11,808,240
Valančiūnas   $10,395,000
Coulibaly   $7,275,600
Bey   $6,118,644
Carrington   $4,677,600
George   $2,966,760
Team Totals   $110,542,331


Plus their FRP and 3 SRPs. That leaves two slots open to take on bad contracts and get more draft assets.
So let's say we trade away kuz and Val. I wouldn't be mad if there aren't any other guys out there if we give Brogdon like a 2 year 60 mill with a team option making to a 1 year deal. We are in a good spot if we can't find anyone else to pay next year if Brogdon wants to stay and get one more big pay day and be traded later.

Sadly, I could see them signing Brogdon and not being able to trade Kuz.
Well again a big one year or 2 with a team option and no guarantee basically a self generated trade exception in a way. So those kind of deals are never bad, it also shows the players that the team cares about them and looks really good on the front office doem a player perceptive. It depends on the deal obviously. Giving Brogdon 4-40 bad giving him 2-50/60 with a team option. Good deal.

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Post#49 » by dckingsfan » Sun Jan 26, 2025 10:34 pm

gambitx777 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:So let's say we trade away kuz and Val. I wouldn't be mad if there aren't any other guys out there if we give Brogdon like a 2 year 60 mill with a team option making to a 1 year deal. We are in a good spot if we can't find anyone else to pay next year if Brogdon wants to stay and get one more big pay day and be traded later.

Sadly, I could see them signing Brogdon and not being able to trade Kuz.
Well again a big one year or 2 with a team option and no guarantee basically a self generated trade exception in a way. So those kind of deals are never bad, it also shows the players that the team cares about them and looks really good on the front office doem a player perceptive. It depends on the deal obviously. Giving Brogdon 4-40 bad giving him 2-50/60 with a team option. Good deal.

Mine would be
Brogdon 4-40 bad
2-50/60 with a team option. Smh. Rather not.
No deal. Yes!
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Re: Malcolm Brogdon. Wizards guard. 

Post#50 » by DCZards » Sun Jan 26, 2025 11:59 pm

Can’t see resigning Brogdon for anything more than 10-15 mil a year for maybe 2 yrs with a team option after the first year.

Good player, team leader, and role model. But he stays injured.

Prefer to see Brogdon traded. Won’t get FRP for him but maybe a SRP or two.
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Post#51 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 27, 2025 3:03 am

I would say the most likely scenario is that he isn't traded and gets bought out.
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