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Post#41 » by pineappleheadindc » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:37 pm

Wiz99 wrote:I just bought tickets. Lower level. First time I've been down in the high class seats. I know they're closer, but I'm behind the basket so I'm wondering if it will actually be better. As long as I have better food options than "dress my dog" and get a good look at Gasol and Kobe.



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Post#42 » by sashae » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:38 pm

mhd I don't think Jamison /would/ go there, but it effects negotiations since he does have a higher-salary option (Gil too, for that matter -- Gil clearly felt no fear going to a bad team before.)
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Post#43 » by Wiz99 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:39 pm

Well, LA essentially turned Caron Butler into Pau Gasol.

Looks like they did pretty well out of trading for KFB afterall, eh?

But, DAMN, why does it seem like there are only 3 or 4 teams in the NBA that can consistently get star players for garbage? I'm probably blowing this out of proportion, but I'm shocked Memphis didn't get something better. Are they that set on completely detonating the franchise and starting over? They must be. It's the only explanation for a deal this rank, this one sided, this absurd.

An all star PF for cap room and two picks that can't conceivably be any better than 15th, and could be near the end of the 1st in both years, now that LA just turned themselves into contenders.
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Post#44 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:39 pm

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crap I am going to that game too.

more importantly how does th elusive Juan Carlos feel now about getting out from the wiz who have a winning record and now being stuck in Memphis without his guy pal Gasol.

How do you say "Life's a bitch and then you die" in Spanish?

He can always go order drink on Beale Street and listen to some low down dirty blues in BB King's place.

There's even a drink called "Bitch".
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Post#45 » by Donkey McDonkerton » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:40 pm

pineappleheadindc wrote:Regarding Sunday's game (I'll be there with wife and,for the first time, baby.)

Unless Gasol is familiar with the triangle, I'm not sure how much burn he'll get in his first game with the Lakers. I wouldn't worry about his minutes against us on Sunday.

That being said, Jerry West picked the wrong day to start smoking crack.


What does he have to do with this?
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Post#46 » by MDStar » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:41 pm

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=19107

Makes a little bit of sense.

From J.A. Adande's chat:

Jeff (Redondo Beach, CA): Wow, Gasol a Laker! Don't you think Memphis could have received a better deal than Kwame and a couple first rounders?

J.A. Adande: (3:19 PM ET ) If they wanted players, yes. But if you think about it, once they made the decision to trade him, who would you build around on that team? Mike Miller? It's possible he could be moved as well. So now they can look at free agents, go back to lottery land and see if they can put another squad together. If i'm them, I'm trying to follow the Portland model.
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Post#47 » by Wiz99 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:42 pm

This is BS. I hate how the NBA works like this.
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Post#48 » by mhd » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:42 pm

Wiz99 wrote:Well, LA essentially turned Caron Butler into Pau Gasol.

Looks like they did pretty well out of trading for KFB afterall, eh?

But, DAMN, why does it seem like there are only 3 or 4 teams in the NBA that can consistently get star players for garbage? I'm probably blowing this out of proportion, but I'm shocked Memphis didn't get something better. Are they that set on completely detonating the franchise and starting over? They must be. It's the only explanation for a deal this rank, this one sided, this absurd.

An all star PF for cap room and two picks that can't conceivably be any better than 15th, and could be near the end of the 1st in both years, now that LA just turned themselves into contenders.



It has to be ownership's call. My question is why didn't Miami get in on this???They have tons of expirings. A Gasol+Cardinal for JWILL+Cook+Zo+Haslem deal would have made a ton of sense for both teams.
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Post#49 » by nate33 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:43 pm

Memphis will have about $10M in cap space after accounting for their lotto pick and the LA pick.

Fortunately, that's not enough dough to seriously entice Arenas. I doubt they want Jamison and I doubt Jamison would consider it.

If I'm Jerry West, I'd take a shot at Okafor. All will be forgiven if they come away with Okafor and Beasley this offseason.
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Post#50 » by pineappleheadindc » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:45 pm

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What does he have to do with this?



Duh! That's right....he left last year, didn't he?

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Post#51 » by Donkey McDonkerton » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:46 pm

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Duh! That's right....he left last year, didn't he?

Sorry Mr. Logo!
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Post#52 » by mhd » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:46 pm

Memphis should be fine after thinking about. The next object is to trade Miller (who'd be an excellent 6th man on any contending team). I'd trade N1+Etan+Songs for Miller, but Memphis would never do that deal.


Memphis should have tried to put Cardinal in this deal. Just add Vujajic+Mihm, and it should have worked.
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Post#53 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:47 pm

Washington needs to scramble their fighter planes so to speak--they need to conjure up every possible scenario to acquire Bobby Jones and Kyle Lowry in a deal that sends Memphis enough inducement to take on some relatively minor salary. I doubt Conley or Gay are available at all.

Memphis will have to move Mike Miller and they might have seen enough to have buyer's remorse on Darko.

I wonder if Collins can still be acquired from Memphis before 48 hours are up?

To me, the Grizzlies are laying down, rolling over, and ready to have a fire sale.
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Post#54 » by Wiz99 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:48 pm

mhd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-




It has to be ownership's call. My question is why didn't Miami get in on this???They have tons of expirings. A Gasol+Cardinal for JWILL+Cook+Zo+Haslem deal would have made a ton of sense for both teams.


Right?!

I'm stunned this is the best deal Memphis could get. Take the Miami deal you proposed vs the one they actually did with LA. It only makes sense if Memphis doesn't want ANY quality players for the rest of the season.

They are just 100% tanking. I mean seriously, if I wanted to throw the season, my first thought would be, "How can I work out a deal to trade my best player for Kwame Brown? That'll destroy my season FOR SURE!"

I will bet you my left nut we'll see Rudy Gay have "tendonitis" for a large chunk of the 2nd half of the season, too.

This is the sucky thing about how the NBA works.
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Post#55 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:49 pm

mhd wrote:Memphis should be fine after thinking about. The next object is to trade Miller (who'd be an excellent 6th man on any contending team). I'd trade N1+Etan+Songs for Miller, but Memphis would never do that deal.


Memphis should have tried to put Cardinal in this deal. Just add Vujajic+Mihm, and it should have worked.


Give them Nick Young and take Brian Cardinal IF it allows Etan and Darius to be moved.

Etan would be appealing to them long-term if he's healthy.

I think Mike Miller is the shooter the Wizards could use especially if Caron or Antawn go down, but because he can play G or F in their offense.
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Post#56 » by mhd » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:50 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Washington needs to scramble their fighter planes so to speak--they need to conjure up every possible scenario to acquire Bobby Jones and Kyle Lowry in a deal that sends Memphis enough inducement to take on some relatively minor salary. I doubt Conley or Gay are available at all.

Memphis will have to move Mike Miller and they might have seen enough to have buyer's remorse on Darko.

I wonder if Collins can still be acquired from Memphis before 48 hours are up?

To me, the Grizzlies are laying down, rolling over, and ready to have a fire sale.


What about Etan+Memphis pick for Cardinal+Lowry?
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Post#57 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:50 pm

mhd, Jamison's contract is what I fear the Griz would want but they don't have anything now but garbage contracts to equal that.

No way do they take on bad contract for bad.
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Post#58 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:51 pm

mhd wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



What about Etan+Memphis pick for Cardinal+Lowry?


I'd say HELL YEAH if visions of EJ having Cardinal and Songaila on the court weren't dancing through my head!
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Post#59 » by mhd » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:52 pm

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:mhd, Jamison's contract is what I fear the Griz would want but they don't have anything now but garbage contracts to equal that.

No way do they take on bad contract for bad.



Well, your right. Etan's stupid TC makes it impossible for him to be dealt. I don't think there is any chance on earth he gets traded till he expires.
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Post#60 » by nate33 » Fri Feb 1, 2008 8:52 pm

The only rational explaination is that there is an under the table deal going on.

Stern must have promised them the #1 pick in the draft in exchange for this trade. Nothing else makes sense.

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