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Post#41 » by Wizards2Lottery » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:56 pm

Spence wrote:Dude, you're just pissed off that he saved the game against the Clips and made you look bad [again]. Aren't you accustomed to him making you look bad? You should be. Come on, time to get over it. Antawn Jamison is having a great year and you hate it. We get it already.

You can be "confident" of anything you like. Who cares what your predictions of the future are when you're constantly wrong about the present?


HA. What he did against the Clips has no bearing on my opinion of him and in no way shape or form changes my opinion on him.

For every Clipper games hes won us in the regular season, every other time hes given up one. Go check, vs Miami Udonis freakin Haslem sinks a buzzer beater right in his face.

The highlight of his career as a Wiz will always be the baseline drive he allowed in the playoffs. Mr. Captain was too much of an intense team player to step in and draw a potential charge, contest the shot or put his body to risk. He took the team way out and did his best matador defense impression.

Enjoy his contract year. I bet you were fooled by Larry the same way.
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Post#42 » by yungal07 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:59 pm

Spence wrote:Dude, you're just pissed off that he saved the game against the Clips and made you look bad [again]. Aren't you accustomed to him making you look bad? You should be. Come on, time to get over it. Antawn Jamison is having a great year and you hate it. We get it already.

You can be "confident" of anything you like. Who cares what your predictions of the future are when you're constantly wrong about the present?


LOL Jamison makes himself look bad by being a crappy defender. What I said about him in the other thread is not invalid because he got lucky and was fouled by an idiot on a 3 point shot.

But keep slobbing his balls though. At the end of the day, I'm still going to be right. Jamison is a liability on defense.
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Post#43 » by yungal07 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:01 pm

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HA. What he did against the Clips has no bearing on my opinion of him and in no way shape or form changes my opinion on him.

For every Clipper games hes won us in the regular season, every other time hes given up one. Go check, vs Miami Udonis freakin Haslem sinks a buzzer beater right in his face.

The highlight of his career as a Wiz will always be the baseline drive he allowed in the playoffs. Mr. Captain was too much of an intense team player to step in and draw a potential charge, contest the shot or put his body to risk. He took the team way out and did his best matador defense impression.

Enjoy his contract year. I bet you were fooled by Larry the same way.


This post is 100% truth.
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Post#44 » by Spence » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:07 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:HA. What he did against the Clips has no bearing on my opinion of him and in no way shape or form changes my opinion on him.

Yeah, I know. You're immune to evidence. That's not a good thing. Also, Jamison saves the game and you don't care because you'd rather lose than win if Jamison is the hero. Again, not something you want to be boasting about.

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:For every Clipper games hes won us in the regular season, every other time hes given up one. Go check, vs Miami Udonis freakin Haslem sinks a buzzer beater right in his face.

This is where you go over the cliff into true lunacy. Jamison costs the team as many wins as he gets the team. Yeah. That 21 and 10 guy is just killing the team.

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:The highlight of his career as a Wiz will always be the baseline drive he allowed in the playoffs. Mr. Captain was too much of an intense team player to step in and draw a potential charge, contest the shot or put his body to risk. He took the team way out and did his best matador defense impression.

Yeah. And I suppose the highlight of Gilbert's career will be those two free throws he missed that could have sealed a playoff win. Right? 'Cause if you judge Jamison that way, I'm sure you'll want to judge Arenas that way, right? I mean, you're not going to admit that you hold Jamison to one standard and everyone else to another standard, are you? [Don't worry -- you don't to admit it. It's plain to see.]

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:Enjoy his contract year. I bet you were fooled by Larry the same way.

Go back and see. Or stop running your mouth. Either way.
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Post#45 » by Spence » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:09 pm

yungal07 wrote:LOL Jamison makes himself look bad by being a crappy defender. What I said about him in the other thread is not invalid because he got lucky and was fouled by an idiot on a 3 point shot.

And then got lucky and hit those three free throws. And a few seconds before that he got lucky and hit a 3-pointer. And then a few minutes later he got lucky by hitting 2 more 3-pointers. That's one lucky dude.

yungal07 wrote:But keep slobbing his balls though. At the end of the day, I'm still going to be right. Jamison is a liability on defense.

Please keep your sexual fantasies/hang-ups to yourself.
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Post#46 » by Spence » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:10 pm

yungal07 wrote:This post is 100% truth.

And now you admit the obvious truth: Nothing Jamison does has any impact on your opinion. You're immune to the facts. I appreciate your honesty, if not your intellect.
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Post#47 » by Spence » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:17 pm

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Post#48 » by johnbragg » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:20 pm

Hey, Spence, don't bottle it up, it's bad for your heart.

Tell us how you really feel.
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Post#49 » by yungal07 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:26 pm

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Your mancrush has no bounds. I'm done. You'd think Jamison is the GOAT talking to you.
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Post#50 » by fifthstop » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:30 pm

[quote="yungal07"][/quote]

You gotta let go of the baseline layup. It was almost 2 years ago. By that same logic, you could make a more legit claim that it's Gil's horrendous game-on-the-line free throw shooting that keeps the wiz from being a contender. Just let it go--you'll be happier.
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Post#51 » by yungal07 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:42 pm

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You gotta let go of the baseline layup. It was almost 2 years ago. By that same logic, you could make a more legit claim that it's Gil's horrendous game-on-the-line free throw shooting that keeps the wiz from being a contender. Just let it go--you'll be happier.


It's not the same thing at all. 2 missed free throws by a normally good free throw shooter and overall extremely clutch player is not the same as Jamison's limitations. One is an aberation - the other is a limitation. It is what it is.
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Post#52 » by Wizards2Lottery » Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:57 pm

Spence wrote:Yeah, I know. You're immune to evidence. That's not a good thing. Also, Jamison saves the game and you don't care because you'd rather lose than win if Jamison is the hero. Again, not something you want to be boasting about.


Its his job to win the game for us. The fact that he was the best and highest paid player on the court meant HE had to be the one leading the way. Most of all it was embaressing that the team had to come down to such a do or die situation against a lottery bound tanking team, though that wasn't completely AJ's fault but he had sucked pretty bad in the fourth both on defense AND offense before saving the day.

I also remember when the team was on an 8 game losing streak and AJ was playing like complete ass. Where were you riding his jockstrap at that time or do you only come out of the shadows when you have enough ammunition to finder point at others?

Spence wrote:This is where you go over the cliff into true lunacy. Jamison costs the team as many wins as he gets the team. Yeah. That 21 and 10 guy is just killing the team.


"Clearly you know how to write, so I'm assuming you also know how to read. So how do explain posting the above when I wrote":

For every Clipper games hes won us in the regular season, every other time hes given up one. Go check, vs Miami Udonis freakin Haslem sinks a buzzer beater right in his face.


Spence wrote:Yeah. And I suppose the highlight of Gilbert's career will be those two free throws he missed that could have sealed a playoff win. Right? 'Cause if you judge Jamison that way, I'm sure you'll want to judge Arenas that way, right? I mean, you're not going to admit that you hold Jamison to one standard and everyone else to another standard, are you? [Don't worry -- you don't to admit it. It's plain to see.]


Actually, people would have been in Gilberts grill for those missed FT's had he not sunk an unbelievable three with time expiring to send the game to OT. He's also bailed this team out heck of a lot more than AJ ever has.

Its not about holding players in different standards. Its just that your bent upon shoving down your man love for AJ down everyones throat. Say one thing about the guy, you're all over peoples grill. Do people bring up all the idiotic things you've said in the past about Eddie Jordan in your face?You're the same coward who disappeared last year when the team started losing only to show up once again this year. So please take your crap somewhere else.
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Post#53 » by Rafael122 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 9:52 pm

Haywood, Jamison, Daniels, Butler will all play.
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Post#54 » by dandridge 10 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:00 pm

Geez, I thought this thread was about the Atlanta game, not Jamison's value to the team. However, since we already spent two pages on this issue, I'll weigh in.

Jamison is not a very good defender, period. The fact is that Jamison is too small to guard many PFs and two slow to guard many SFs. However, I think he does the best he can with his physical limitations and has improved slightly this year on the defensive end.

I also agree that the Wiz probably could not win a Championship with A.J. as our starting PF and that we would be better off with a PF along the lines of Brand, Bosh, Boozer, etc.

However, the bottom line is that an all-star PF that plays well on both ends of the court is not going to fall out of the sky into our laps. So, I just don't see any point in bashing A.J. while he is on this team. He is what he is...a prolific scorer that sometimes takes bad shots, a very good rebounder for his size, a terrific leader, and a good mentor for the youngins'. He is also an essential piece to the current Wizard teams and is one of several reason why the Wizards have been able to stay afloat without Arenas (and Butler) during this season and why we have been in the playoffs for three straight years. Instead of lamenting about what we don't have, I'd rather just be thankful for what we do have.

So in the end, Jamison is not quite as great or as bad as some of you make him out to be. However, he is the best that we can hope for at the current time...why not just enjoy it?
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Post#55 » by Soup's Uncle » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:21 pm

Man, it's gettin heated like my dinner in here.
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Post#56 » by Wizards2Lottery » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:44 pm

dandridge 10 wrote:However, he is the best that we can hope for at the current time...why not just enjoy it?


See the thing is, we do. Besides game threads, I'm never critical of anyone on this team (well besides Etan and Songaila).

Its just the fact that Spence has a horrible habit of nitpicking anything you say in a gamethread and dragging it on forever and ever into other threads. Take for instance the thread saying AJ is the player of the week:

Spence wrote::clap: for Jamison.

And :rofl: at the senseless haters who would rather lose than watch The Captain lead us to victory.


No one pulled a stupid remark on AJ in that thread yet Spence decides to be a smartass.

Maybe if he would just STFU and let what things are said in the heat of the moment go away. But for some reason he wants to let the world know how much he adores AJ and how he is his #1 fan.
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Post#57 » by hands11 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:59 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:not feeling good about this for some reason. could be an upset.


That's just your internal clock ticking. We are about do for a fire EJ game.

Something like Haywood doesn't play or play well so Songaila get chewed up in the post but we don't adjust.

I hope I'm totally wrong and Haywood comes back like a mad man so we don't have to worry about that happening.
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Post#58 » by doclinkin » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:07 pm

Gilbert0Arenas wrote:Besides game threads, I'm never critical of anyone on this team
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Maybe if he would just STFU and let what things are said in the heat of the moment go away.


Simple solution: don't say stupid shxt you might be forced to eat later.
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Post#59 » by Wizards2Lottery » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:13 pm

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Simple solution: don't say stupid shxt you might be forced to eat later.


Dude "shxt" happens. Gamethreads would be lame if all you could type was rosey bullcrap.
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Post#60 » by Soup's Uncle » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:17 pm

Our D looks like poopy balls so far in this game.
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