Political Roundtable Part XVII

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The closed door testimony of Fusion GPS Execs was devastating to Trump and Repubs are engaged in a propaganda war against all entities who have damaging information about Trump and his corrupt inner-circle forth-coming, this is all about creating a false narrative ahead of future indictments and damaging testimony....and it works will with deplorables. Fortunately, the uncovered facts will not be weighed or judged by the "Alternative Facts" Fox New echo chamber.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html

Yep. Pretty obvious what this is about.

Sen Grassley got called out by the FUSION GPS founders and he's throwing a hissy fit.

I mean Grassley HIMSELF SAID HE HAD NO PROBLEM RELEASING THE TRANSCRIPTS ...so the FUSION GPS founders are just holding him to his word.

If you're a "collusion skeptic" with an open mind you'll at least give these guys some props for being willing to put themselves out there.

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wrong.

first.

1. Fusion GPS is a team of 15 people. Thats it. 15 people most of them lawyers.
2. They dont do any other business beside provide political "cover" for the DNC.
3. So in recent years that solely meant Obama and HRC.
4. They dont do anything else. Just this.
5. So grassley wants them to release the full testimony and their financial records.

Now you are right in that that they called Grassley "bluff" (if you think he is bluffing) about the releasing the sealed testimony. But when Grassley also said release their financial," they retracted and walked that one back. They do not. I repeat DO NOT want to release their financials and in fact are fighting that...i believe in court right now.

But here's the $69,000 question? why not release the financials!!!!!????????? What do they have to hide or protect? Its 15 people that solely worked for Obama, the DNC and HRC during 2015 and 2016.

I'll tell you what they are going to say as to why they can not release the financials, "attorney client priveledge." The legal "firewall" Montestewert laughed at 4 months ago.

All I have to say it follow the money. like stink on shxt! follow that damn money!!!!

and guys, words can not express how happy I am that we are finally getting to the bottom of this. damn these guys are slow. How is it that i'm 2-3 months ahead of our own congress? Our own president? I'm ahead of his own PR spin. Deez mofos would do themselves a favor by hiring me.

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direct shot at CNN and their "draining negative coverage" while the US economy is actually booming.

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Donald trump once went into the inner cities of Michigan and asked "what do you have to lose?" Democrats and liberals called him a racist.

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[Ruzious]

direct shot at CNN and their "draining negative coverage" while the US economy is actually booming.

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Call me smart, but... how are the headlines on those top 2 tv's negative, and I can't even read the bottom tv. This war against the media is too moronic for words. Btw, can you stop cluttering this thread with inane posts like that? That's a question - not a command - trying to give you a neurological out for your behavior.

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The closed door testimony of Fusion GPS Execs was devastating to Trump and Repubs are engaged in a propaganda war against all entities who have damaging information about Trump and his corrupt inner-circle forth-coming, this is all about creating a false narrative ahead of future indictments and damaging testimony....and it works will with deplorables. Fortunately, the uncovered facts will not be weighed or judged by the "Alternative Facts" Fox New echo chamber.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html

Yep. Pretty obvious what this is about.

Sen Grassley got called out by the FUSION GPS founders and he's throwing a hissy fit.

I mean Grassley HIMSELF SAID HE HAD NO PROBLEM RELEASING THE TRANSCRIPTS ...so the FUSION GPS founders are just holding him to his word.

If you're a "collusion skeptic" with an open mind you'll at least give these guys some props for being willing to put themselves out there.

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wrong.

first.

1. Fusion GPS is a team of 15 people. Thats it. 15 people most of them lawyers.
2. They dont do any other business beside provide political "cover" for the DNC.
3. So in recent years that solely meant Obama and HRC.
4. They dont do anything else. Just this.
5. So grassley wants them to release the full testimony and their financial records.

Now you are right in that that they called Grassley "bluff" (if you think he is bluffing) about the releasing the sealed testimony. But when Grassley also said release their financial," they retracted and walked that one back. They do not. I repeat DO NOT want to release their financials and in fact are fighting that...i believe in court right now.

But here's the $69,000 question? why not release the financials!!!!!????????? What do they have to hide or protect?

Actually you're wrong...sort of.

I just googled it.

FusionGPS has turned over the financials. Lots from what I've read. It's just the Committee keeps coming back and asking for things GPS says are unrelated to this issue. That's what they're in court fighting.

You could be right in that maybe they have some deep, dark secret to hide. Or maybe they're just trying to protect other client's business as well.

Here's another scenario: Perhaps Grassley is gambling that they don't want those financials out there, giving him an excuse not to release those transcripts.

All three are plausible in my opinion.

[Pointgod]

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You know at some point you guys have to reconcile your logic.

For the past 13 months 3-4 of you have been all over this "hacked election" false narrative. Your narrative was that "russia" meddled in our election.

1. But the only hacking anyone can provide is fake Steele dossier filled with lies.
2. The DNC paid for it.
3. The outgoing Obama FBI paid for it.
4. Fusion GPS was the lackey (legal firewall go-between) who was hired by Obama, HRC, and the DNC.
5. Bruce Ohr's wife actually worked for Fusion while Bruce himself was #4 at the FBI and an investigator.
6. And the entire intent of this Dossier was to make Donald trump lose the election.
7. and the worst part is that this dossier almost solely was used to obtain a FISA warrant and spy on Donald trump and his campaign team.
8. What's especially weird is that the big bad "Russians" that met with Trump Jr and Kushner for 20 minutes met with Fusion GPS ON THE SAME DAY. Double-agent anyone? Set up anyone????
9. So anyone with half a brain can see that it was indeed Fusion GPS and Steele as the true colluders. And it was HRC, THe DNC, and Obama himself that paid Fusion GPS in 2015 and 2016.
10. This would be a good time to remind everyone that Obama re-election campaing was paying Fusion GPS 1 million per year in both 2015 and 2016.

There is your "collusion." there it is in a nut shell. everyone knows it. Even you. And thats why charges against the author are being brought against him. Start there and follow the evidence where ever it takes you. And I do mean where ever.

Russian meddling in the election has been proven that's a fact. This has also been corroborated by multiple investigative bodies.

The Russia investigation was started months before the Steele dossier was used to validate information the FBI previously knew. Why? Because an idiot on the transition team followed after his idol Trump and decided to run his mouth.

Everything you've written is misinformed and detached from reality.

[stilldropin20]

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You know at some point you guys have to reconcile your logic.

For the past 13 months 3-4 of you have been all over this "hacked election" false narrative. Your narrative was that "russia" meddled in our election.

1. But the only hacking anyone can provide is fake Steele dossier filled with lies.
2. The DNC paid for it.
3. The outgoing Obama FBI paid for it.
4. Fusion GPS was the lackey (legal firewall go-between) who was hired by Obama, HRC, and the DNC.
5. Bruce Ohr's wife actually worked for Fusion while Bruce himself was #4 at the FBI and an investigator.
6. And the entire intent of this Dossier was to make Donald trump lose the election.
7. and the worst part is that this dossier almost solely was used to obtain a FISA warrant and spy on Donald trump and his campaign team.
8. What's especially weird is that the big bad "Russians" that met with Trump Jr and Kushner for 20 minutes met with Fusion GPS ON THE SAME DAY. Double-agent anyone? Set up anyone????
9. So anyone with half a brain can see that it was indeed Fusion GPS and Steele as the true colluders. And it was HRC, THe DNC, and Obama himself that paid Fusion GPS in 2015 and 2016.
10. This would be a good time to remind everyone that Obama re-election campaing was paying Fusion GPS 1 million per year in both 2015 and 2016.

There is your "collusion." there it is in a nut shell. everyone knows it. Even you. And thats why charges against the author are being brought against him. Start there and follow the evidence where ever it takes you. And I do mean where ever.

Russian meddling in the election has been proven that's a fact. This has also been corroborated by multiple investigative bodies.

The Russia investigation was started months before the Steele dossier was used to validate information the FBI previously knew. Why? Because an idiot on the transition team followed after his idol Trump and decided to run his mouth.

Everything you've written is misinformed and detached from reality.

i am the only guy in this thread telling the truth. The only one. Now I dont think you guys are trying to mislead people. I simply think you are just following CNN/NYT down their blue pill rabbit hole.

What I've been saying since i started posting is that the real collusion is between Uranium One, HRC, WJC, Clinton foundation, and the entire Obama State dept, NSA, and DOJ. all of whom signed off on the Uranium One deal. That's the real "russia" collusion story. Ive said so for nearly 10 straight months. I also said that the Obama DOJ allowed HRC and her team to slide on multiple violations of multiple felony crimes. You guys laughed at it. Everyone of you.

And sure as shxt stinks, The FBI re-opened 2 investigations yesterday into The Clinton foundation specifically in regards to this Uranium One deal and the other into the email investigation.

the other thing I've been harping on is that HRC and The DNC colluded with Fusion GPS who used a foregn agent (Steele) who himself used "Russian Foreign agents" to compile almost completely false and salacious "dossier" which this same corrupt as shxt Obama DOJ then used to surveil Donald trump and "wire tap" Trump tower.

And the shoe is about to drop on this one!!!!!!!

You guys have laughed at all of it and insisted that It was trump who colluded when in fact it has been the outgoing entire Obama adminstration that has leaked false information aboutTrump (falsely)insisting that it was colluding with Russian. When in fact it was HRC, the DNC, Obama himself, and Obama's entire DOJ, NSA, and state dept that has been colluding with Russia the entire time and since 2008 when he was elected and they began this whole "Russian reset" and sold russia 20% of our Uranium reserves.

ive been right. You have been lying. The.ENTIRE.TIME.

the proof is in the pudding. many people's hands are dirty on this. especially at the top. thats why they are so desperate to impeach trump. The longer he sticks around, the more and more this will be exposed.

Steele is just the first guy. This thing stinks to high heaven. They thought that there was NO WAY HRC could lose and to all people Donald trump.

The American people got this one right. None of us would have ever known about any of this if Donald trump lost the election. This is why Obama, HRC, and WJC nearly shxt their pants on election night.

And all of you guys should care about this. You should all be deeply passionate to get to the bottom of this. This is exactly what the US government is NOT suppose to be about. We are suppose to be the least corruptible government body and a beacon of hope for democracy around the globe.

But yeah Pointgod. You have been duped by your media. Duped by you liberal leaders. Duped by your liberal politicians. Oh wait!! you are not even american!!!!!!!! lol This is actually quite funny for you to see american politics in such a mess from and outgoing corrupt administration.

Sleep tight though, my fellow americans. Top Crime Dog, Donald Trump is on the scene. He will fix this. He will make us whole again. Make the government work for the people again. make the economy thrive again. and yes...make america great again!!

[JWizmentality]

Got my copy and damn. If just 15% of this book were true. Trump is truly a depraved, disgusting human being.

[stilldropin20]

Got my copy and damn. If just 15% of this book were true. Trump is truly and depraved, disgusting human being.

choir boys dont run for office to be president of the united states. nor should they. its a dirty job. and I dont blame Obama for any of these strikes. I assume he did what he thought was right. Still though. 1500 "innocent" civilians many of them women and children died and nearly 15,000 total people. Killed by the orders of Obama.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/obamas-final-drone-strike-data

[Pointgod]

Got my copy and damn. If just 15% of this book were true. Trump is truly and depraved, disgusting human being.

choir boys dont run for office to be president of the united states. nor should they. its a dirty job. and I dont blame Obama for any of these strikes. I assume he did what he thought was right. Still though. 1500 "innocent" civilians many of them women and children died and nearly 15,000 total people. Killed by the orders of Obama.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/obamas-final-drone-strike-data

Civilian deaths in the middle East have increased under Trump.

[Pointgod]

Got my copy and damn. If just 15% of this book were true. Trump is truly a depraved, disgusting human being.

Highlights so far?

[closg00]

Got my copy and damn. If just 15% of this book were true. Trump is truly a depraved, disgusting human being.

More of the same, who Trump really is has been on full public display for quite some time, the look on Melania's face say's it all.

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Got my copy and damn. If just 15% of this book were true. Trump is truly a depraved, disgusting human being.

Highlights so far?

From the topic and what I have seen second hand, I think it is a book of low lights.

[stilldropin20]

Got my copy and damn. If just 15% of this book were true. Trump is truly and depraved, disgusting human being.

choir boys dont run for office to be president of the united states. nor should they. its a dirty job. and I dont blame Obama for any of these strikes. I assume he did what he thought was right. Still though. 1500 "innocent" civilians many of them women and children died and nearly 15,000 total people. Killed by the orders of Obama.

https://www.cfr.org/blog/obamas-final-drone-strike-data

Civilian deaths in the middle East have increased under Trump.

i highly doubt it. but bury the lead much? Neither are choir boys!!!!


For trump its only been a year and with only 6 months of solid combat. And isis is all but done. isis is dead in its tracks. the job is done and done in 6 months of combat. compared to Obama's never ending war due to terrible rules of engagement policy where our soldiers lives were at risk and we could barely defend ourselves. Obama preferred drone strikes. I guess it made him feel better about killing people? Or it just gave him something to hide behind in case of a bad killing? blame the operator of the drone!!! or blame the technology?

Whatever the reason Obama was a coward doesn't matter. Him nor trump are choir boys. and neither should be. Its not a job that choir boys should apply. Again, I got no problems with Obama ordering the strikes. My problem is his weak rules of engagement where soldiers had to phone into generals at home base or back in washington DC before engaged with enemy combatants. This caused us to lose more lives and drew out the war even longer. trump just went in their and kicked ass and didn't appologize...which probably saved a ton of lives on both sides.

Now if we find out that some Obama or Clinton Crony was making money off of them drone (technology or material) strikes? and he prolonged the damn war on purpose? If we find that out then this man was even more dangerous than even i suspect. i doubt it and i am not suggesting it...but when ever war efforts are drawn out? I always wonder. Given Trump and Mattis kicked ISIS' ass in 6 months more of you should be wondering about this too.

In fact all of you should be asking yourselves how did Obama have a 5ish year long battle in the middle east...to no success at all!!!!??? How???????????? and then trump kicks their butt in 6 months. Why didn't Obama do the same.

Ah...but that palace intrigue!!!!!!!

[Pointgod]

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You know at some point you guys have to reconcile your logic.

For the past 13 months 3-4 of you have been all over this "hacked election" false narrative. Your narrative was that "russia" meddled in our election.

1. But the only hacking anyone can provide is fake Steele dossier filled with lies.
2. The DNC paid for it.
3. The outgoing Obama FBI paid for it.
4. Fusion GPS was the lackey (legal firewall go-between) who was hired by Obama, HRC, and the DNC.
5. Bruce Ohr's wife actually worked for Fusion while Bruce himself was #4 at the FBI and an investigator.
6. And the entire intent of this Dossier was to make Donald trump lose the election.
7. and the worst part is that this dossier almost solely was used to obtain a FISA warrant and spy on Donald trump and his campaign team.
8. What's especially weird is that the big bad "Russians" that met with Trump Jr and Kushner for 20 minutes met with Fusion GPS ON THE SAME DAY. Double-agent anyone? Set up anyone????
9. So anyone with half a brain can see that it was indeed Fusion GPS and Steele as the true colluders. And it was HRC, THe DNC, and Obama himself that paid Fusion GPS in 2015 and 2016.
10. This would be a good time to remind everyone that Obama re-election campaing was paying Fusion GPS 1 million per year in both 2015 and 2016.

There is your "collusion." there it is in a nut shell. everyone knows it. Even you. And thats why charges against the author are being brought against him. Start there and follow the evidence where ever it takes you. And I do mean where ever.

Russian meddling in the election has been proven that's a fact. This has also been corroborated by multiple investigative bodies.

The Russia investigation was started months before the Steele dossier was used to validate information the FBI previously knew. Why? Because an idiot on the transition team followed after his idol Trump and decided to run his mouth.

Everything you've written is misinformed and detached from reality.

i am the only guy in this thread telling the truth. The only one. Now I dont think you guys are trying to mislead people. I simply think you are just following CNN/NYT down their blue pill rabbit hole.

What I've been saying since i started posting is that the real collusion is between Uranium One, HRC, WJC, Clinton foundation, and the entire Obama State dept, NSA, and DOJ. all of whom signed off on the Uranium One deal. That's the real "russia" collusion story. Ive said so for nearly 10 straight months. I also said that the Obama DOJ allowed HRC and her team to slide on multiple violations of multiple felony crimes. You guys laughed at it. Everyone of you.

And sure as shxt stinks, The FBI re-opened 2 investigations yesterday into The Clinton foundation specifically in regards to this Uranium One deal and the other into the email investigation.

the other thing I've been harping on is that HRC and The DNC colluded with Fusion GPS who used a foregn agent (Steele) who himself used "Russian Foreign agents" to compile almost completely false and salacious "dossier" which this same corrupt as shxt Obama DOJ then used to surveil Donald trump and "wire tap" Trump tower.

And the shoe is about to drop on this one!!!!!!!

You guys have laughed at all of it and insisted that It was trump who colluded when in fact it has been the outgoing entire Obama adminstration that has leaked false information aboutTrump (falsely)insisting that it was colluding with Russian. When in fact it was HRC, the DNC, Obama himself, and Obama's entire DOJ, NSA, and state dept that has been colluding with Russia the entire time and since 2008 when he was elected and they began this whole "Russian reset" and sold russia 20% of our Uranium reserves.

ive been right. You have been lying. The.ENTIRE.TIME.

the proof is in the pudding. many people's hands are dirty on this. especially at the top. thats why they are so desperate to impeach trump. The longer he sticks around, the more and more this will be exposed.

Steele is just the first guy. This thing stinks to high heaven. They thought that there was NO WAY HRC could lose and to all people Donald trump.

The American people got this one right. None of us would have ever known about any of this if Donald trump lost the election. This is why Obama, HRC, and WJC nearly shxt their pants on election night.

And all of you guys should care about this. You should all be deeply passionate to get to the bottom of this. This is exactly what the US government is NOT suppose to be about. We are suppose to be the least corruptible government body and a beacon of hope for democracy around the globe.

But yeah Pointgod. You have been duped by your media. Duped by you liberal leaders. Duped by your liberal politicians. Oh wait!! you are not even american!!!!!!!! lol This is actually quite funny for you to see american politics in such a mess from and outgoing corrupt administration.

Sleep tight though, my fellow americans. Top Crime Dog, Donald Trump is on the scene. He will fix this. He will make us whole again. Make the government work for the people again. make the economy thrive again. and yes...make america great again!!

I'm not going to bother going through your incoherent ramblings. But let me know how the unmasking controversy worked out or wire tapping. Wasn't Trumps attorney supposed to sue to the FBI in December?

One question for your SD20. When this next round of Clinton investigations goes nowhere are you going to admit you're an easily conned right winger still?

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SD20 when you call Trump "Top Crime Dog" are you referring to crime committing?

[stilldropin20]

SD20 when you call Trump "Top Crime Dog" are you referring to crime committing?

law and order baby! He was the candidate of law and order. He is cleaning this place up and doing so by puting the great men and women of this country back to work! I am so grateful for our current economy and to see so many of my patients get raises or even better jobs. I had a woman come in on thursday evening that had not been to my office since 2004. Wow! half her teeth were broken off. Now she has a job, insurance, "grabbed a bag and fixed her teeth."

but what the hell was Hillary thinking? I had no idea this happened. How did this woman get half of the vote and do so well in minority communities?

Wow!! She almost won????? If she won all of the crimes she committed through the years would have been swept under the rug. Trump aint lettin' her slide. Thank God. National embarrassment!

How could anyone not see through this, though?

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