Political Roundtable Part XXII

[montestewart]

welcome to the world of wizards pride, ruzious, and a few others.no law and order. zero respect for others rights and property. let see who else defends this crap.

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Maybe Ruzious or a few of the others know.

I saw something similar the other night, SUV clipped a Metrobus mirror. Exact same situation, except both drivers were waiting for police to arrive. And I said, "Hey, don't one of you have a hammer?" VERY ABNORMAL!

[Wizardspride]

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[stilldropin20]

welcome to the world of wizards pride, ruzious, and a few others.no law and order. zero respect for others rights and property. let see who else defends this crap.

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I have no clue what you're talking about but whatever.......

More and more stuff like this will happen when the police are demonized.

that girl in this video is likely a real good human and that same girl 15 years ago would have never reacted that way. She doesn't look that upset nor that angry. She looks to me like she feels its in her right to protect her property and her "time" in this manner. She looks to me like an attractive and normal girl that just wants immediate "revenge" or retaliation (AKA justice) for what she feel is a wrong doing perpetrated to her.

I have no idea what caused this...maybe she felt the bus side swiped her because i saw a dent in her front right quarter panel. but 10-15 years ago this never happens. The old white guy would never stand in front of the car which makes the whole thing worse. She is likely going to jail now for years. In all likelihood what is a normal, healthy, and good girl is now going to go to jail for attempted murder and destruction of government property and a host of other crimes.

Why!!!!?????

I mean this stuff has always occured by the hardened fringe of any society. and always will. But this girl?? I highly doubt she is a hardened criminal or psychopath...i mean she is certainly a drama queen...but hardened criminal?? I doubt it. This is the stuff mobsters do when you look at them wrong or bump into them or some crap like that. But this is clearly not that kind of person.

Instead, what we have here is a girl who has seen too much violence on TV. Too much destruction of property by "antifa."

And adding to that probably too much frustration with 17-25% Black unemplyment rates in her neck of the woods and just over reacted thinking its normal reaction and whe wont be prosecuted anyway.

Big mistake. big miscalculation. And we are going to have more and more anarchy type situations like this.

We already have about 4000 shooting per year in chicago. I mean its insane how crazy the united states in general goes when a las vegas type shooting occurs...but that many people get shot every week in chicago and that many die from gun shot wound every month. the only reason we dont have 30-40 dead every week is modern medicine and the best emergency team in the entire world. developed due to 4 decades of shooting like this never cleaned up by democratic mayors and aldermen.

^^they dont want to clean it up. I repeat. they dont want to clean it up. Drug lords influence our politicians who seem to think its ok for and good for business for drug dealers to exist. they look at it as revenue no different than a mcdonalds on the corner. both peddling poison for money. And by allowing disorder...you end up with what would be a normal girl and good citizen committing this sense act of destruction and violence who will now go to jail for at least 2-3 years.

Stop demonizing police. stop demonizing law and order. stop allowing (real) criminals to skate away too often with a slap on the wrist. And stop politicizing crime. We must have equal justice under the law.

[Pointgod]

Is Trump finally out of his funeral time-out?

You know that had to be killing him.

[montestewart]

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

[stilldropin20]

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

look i know your liberal news sources wont inform you on the destruction antifa lays in its path. Nor the aggressive and violent "protests" from both antifa and BLM. Whenever good intention the causes may have initially had is now lost in the noise created from the violence and destruciton...and the real victim are people like this girl in the video. She thinks this is ok. She probably thinks she has a right to "protect herself" in this manner. She doesn't understand that this is not how you solve problems in a society built upon rights for all and law and order. She does't look that mad. And I doubt she is some outlier in society. She is dressed exactly like any typical 18-25 year old and she has a decent car...she probably had a flat tire recently because the tire jack is not stowed properly so she is likely on edge right now. frustrated with life the way any college student or young 20-something can be. but the political climate brought to you by the fringe far left has a lot of people all hot and bothered.

And no one here in this thread has condemned her bahavior. You all want her to get away with this. You do. Ive been reading your posts for years. You want her to get away with this and you want more of this. You want your way politically right now and you all believe by any means necessary at this point. You guys are not interested in law and order right now nor peaceful protests.

I mean come on monte...why are you jumping on me!!!! And not her behavior!! call it like it is...she unhinged!! She is!!! Now, as i said, i dont think that she would otherwise be this unhinged. this is a problem due to the news being so lolitically charged and CNN claiming a traitor and racist is in the white house. Both of which are untrue. but that wont stop posters here nor CNN from saying so.

[stilldropin20]

how can you not love this girl....seriously!!! She sees the light. She sees the truth. And has the courage to face the flames and demand to be heard as she spreads the truth!!!

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[dckingsfan]

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

When you don't have an answer - obfuscate and throw in failed logic. And then wrap up the rant with a conclusion

It is exactly what Trump does - so it must be good. It must be right?

And with respect to the war on crime and war on drugs, we want to keep them in place with anecdotal evidence vs. the reality that crime and homicides are falling and incarceration rates keep climbing. We HAVE to keep these failed policies in place! After all, how else can we bankrupt or state governments? After all, this is how you keep the rule of law.

[stilldropin20]

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

When you don't have an answer - obfuscate and throw in failed logic. And then wrap up the rant with a conclusion

It is exactly what Trump does - so it must be good. It must be right?

And with respect to the war on crime and war on drugs, we want to keep them in place with anecdotal evidence vs. the reality that crime and homicides are falling and incarceration rates keep climbing. We HAVE to keep these failed policies in place! After all, how else can we bankrupt or state governments? After all, this is how you keep the rule of law.

oh...let me explain myself better when i say law and order. i dont think we need more people in jail. or more laws. or more tickets.

quite the contrary. I think we simply need better citizens that behave better. that follow the laws and act orderly.

I dont think you get there with more police. I think you get there with better leadership. Better local teachers. Better coaches. better church leaders. better politicians. better police (not more of them). And most importantly . better mothers and fathers at home teaching their children to behave.

^^^thats what i mean by law and order. (as opposed to anarchy. We need to police ourselves better.

And my arguement is against our media and politicians...who dont point out the differece between a "police state" version of law and order that i absolutely do NOT advocate and just better parents at home doing a better job.

But those parents must be armed with tools that allow them to do a better job...namely a good job with more money so as to be able to be home more often to teach their kids how to behave in an orderly fashion that is deemed acceptable to society at large.

^^^that's my version of law and order vs. anarchy.

Now when anarchy breaks out? when the local leaders have failed? When the parents have failed? When the democrats in nearly all of our cities have jailed too many black men and failed to produced jobs therefore the parents have failed to teach their kids how to behave?? <<--when all that occurs as a last result and anarchy breaks out...then yeah...we have to jail people.

But the bottom line is that we all have rights. every single one of us. Peaceful protests are fine. perhaps even a great thing. Violence and destruction only leads to more violence and more destrution.

[montestewart]

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

look i know your liberal news sources wont inform you on the destruction antifa lays in its path. Nor the aggressive and violent "protests" from both antifa and BLM. Whenever good intention the causes may have initially had is now lost in the noise created from the violence and destruciton...and the real victim are people like this girl in the video. She thinks this is ok. She probably thinks she has a right to "protect herself" in this manner. She doesn't understand that this is not how you solve problems in a society built upon rights for all and law and order. She does't look that mad. And I doubt she is some outlier in society. She is dressed exactly like any typical 18-25 year old and she has a decent car...she probably had a flat tire recently because the tire jack is not stowed properly so she is likely on edge right now. frustrated with life the way any college student or young 20-something can be. but the political climate brought to you by the fringe far left has a lot of people all hot and bothered.

And no one here in this thread has condemned her bahavior. You all want her to get away with this. You do. Ive been reading your posts for years. You want her to get away with this and you want more of this. You want your way politically right now and you all believe by any means necessary at this point. You guys are not interested in law and order right now nor peaceful protests.

I mean come on monte...why are you jumping on me!!!! And not her behavior!! call it like it is...she unhinged!! She is!!! Now, as i said, i dont think that she would otherwise be this unhinged. this is a problem due to the news being so lolitically charged and CNN claiming a traitor and racist is in the white house. Both of which are untrue. but that wont stop posters here nor CNN from saying so.

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

[montestewart]

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

When you don't have an answer - obfuscate and throw in failed logic. And then wrap up the rant with a conclusion

It is exactly what Trump does - so it must be good. It must be right?

And with respect to the war on crime and war on drugs, we want to keep them in place with anecdotal evidence vs. the reality that crime and homicides are falling and incarceration rates keep climbing. We HAVE to keep these failed policies in place! After all, how else can we bankrupt or state governments? After all, this is how you keep the rule of law.

oh...let me explain myself better when i say law and order. i dont think we need more people in jail. or more laws. or more tickets.

quite the contrary. I think we simply need better citizens that behave better. that follow the laws and act orderly.

I dont think you get there with more police. I think you get there with better leadership. Better local teachers. Better coaches. better church leaders. better politicians. better police (not more of them). And most importantly . better mothers and fathers at home teaching their children to behave.

^^^thats what i mean by law and order. (as opposed to anarchy. We need to police ourselves better.

And my arguement is against our media and politicians...who dont point out the differece between a "police state" version of law and order that i absolutely do NOT advocate and just better parents at home doing a better job.

But those parents must be armed with tools that allow them to do a better job...namely a good job with more money so as to be able to be home more often to teach their kids how to behave in an orderly fashion that is deemed acceptable to society at large.

^^^that's my version of law and order vs. anarchy.

Now when anarchy breaks out? when the local leaders have failed? When the parents have failed? When the democrats in nearly all of our cities have jailed too many black men and failed to produced jobs therefore the parents have failed to teach their kids how to behave?? <<--when all that occurs as a last result and anarchy breaks out...then yeah...we have to jail people.

But the bottom line is that we all have rights. every single one of us. Peaceful protests are fine. perhaps even a great thing. Violence and destruction only leads to more violence and more destrution.

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

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[dckingsfan]

When you don't have an answer - obfuscate and throw in failed logic. And then wrap up the rant with a conclusion

It is exactly what Trump does - so it must be good. It must be right?

And with respect to the war on crime and war on drugs, we want to keep them in place with anecdotal evidence vs. the reality that crime and homicides are falling and incarceration rates keep climbing. We HAVE to keep these failed policies in place! After all, how else can we bankrupt or state governments? After all, this is how you keep the rule of law.

oh...let me explain myself better when i say law and order. i dont think we need more people in jail. or more laws. or more tickets.

quite the contrary. I think we simply need better citizens that behave better. that follow the laws and act orderly.

I dont think you get there with more police. I think you get there with better leadership. Better local teachers. Better coaches. better church leaders. better politicians. better police (not more of them). And most importantly . better mothers and fathers at home teaching their children to behave.

^^^thats what i mean by law and order. (as opposed to anarchy. We need to police ourselves better.

And my arguement is against our media and politicians...who dont point out the differece between a "police state" version of law and order that i absolutely do NOT advocate and just better parents at home doing a better job.

But those parents must be armed with tools that allow them to do a better job...namely a good job with more money so as to be able to be home more often to teach their kids how to behave in an orderly fashion that is deemed acceptable to society at large.

^^^that's my version of law and order vs. anarchy.

Now when anarchy breaks out? when the local leaders have failed? When the parents have failed? When the democrats in nearly all of our cities have jailed too many black men and failed to produced jobs therefore the parents have failed to teach their kids how to behave?? <<--when all that occurs as a last result and anarchy breaks out...then yeah...we have to jail people.

But the bottom line is that we all have rights. every single one of us. Peaceful protests are fine. perhaps even a great thing. Violence and destruction only leads to more violence and more destrution.

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

And not backed up by the numbers. The real question should be why is crime falling? How can we keep this trend going? How do incarcerate less?

[Pointgod]

When you don't have an answer - obfuscate and throw in failed logic. And then wrap up the rant with a conclusion

It is exactly what Trump does - so it must be good. It must be right?

And with respect to the war on crime and war on drugs, we want to keep them in place with anecdotal evidence vs. the reality that crime and homicides are falling and incarceration rates keep climbing. We HAVE to keep these failed policies in place! After all, how else can we bankrupt or state governments? After all, this is how you keep the rule of law.

oh...let me explain myself better when i say law and order. i dont think we need more people in jail. or more laws. or more tickets.

quite the contrary. I think we simply need better citizens that behave better. that follow the laws and act orderly.

I dont think you get there with more police. I think you get there with better leadership. Better local teachers. Better coaches. better church leaders. better politicians. better police (not more of them). And most importantly . better mothers and fathers at home teaching their children to behave.

^^^thats what i mean by law and order. (as opposed to anarchy. We need to police ourselves better.

And my arguement is against our media and politicians...who dont point out the differece between a "police state" version of law and order that i absolutely do NOT advocate and just better parents at home doing a better job.

But those parents must be armed with tools that allow them to do a better job...namely a good job with more money so as to be able to be home more often to teach their kids how to behave in an orderly fashion that is deemed acceptable to society at large.

^^^that's my version of law and order vs. anarchy.

Now when anarchy breaks out? when the local leaders have failed? When the parents have failed? When the democrats in nearly all of our cities have jailed too many black men and failed to produced jobs therefore the parents have failed to teach their kids how to behave?? <<--when all that occurs as a last result and anarchy breaks out...then yeah...we have to jail people.

But the bottom line is that we all have rights. every single one of us. Peaceful protests are fine. perhaps even a great thing. Violence and destruction only leads to more violence and more destrution.

STD, 1) How does anything you just wrote tie into your original thesis regarding police, the new normal, general respect for the law, or WizPride/Ruzious? I can help you out here...it doesn't. 2) What does the woman's attractiveness have to do with anything? I can help you out here...it doesn't.

What an unfocused stream-of-consciousness rant with no coherent thesis. The culture of complaint, fur sure. You just throwing everything in the cupboard into the pot.

Everytime I read STDs posts I think about that scene from Billy Madison where he's in the competition and gives that long meandering answer and the host responds appropriately.

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This be true. According to STD and his 100% non biased polls black people love Trump! I need Coondance Owens to explain this to me.

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This be true. According to STD and his 100% non biased polls black people love Trump! I need Coondance Owens to explain this to me.

Always been. Always will be.

[Wizardspride]

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Fake news obviously.

[TGW]

Lol cracks me up that once sexually transmitted verbal disease explains his views in more detail, it doesn’t align ANYWHERE close to Trumps.

THe cult is real.al

[montestewart]

The racial jokes regarding Candace Owens and other black conservatives may be heading into dangerous territory. I've seen liberals do full on foot in mouth while denouncing Clarance Thomas, Condoleezza Rice, Ben Carson, etc. Be careful when criticizing the behavior of one person not to insult many more.

Trump and the Kardashians show that substance means nothing, just get famous somehow, and the money prints itself. Candace Owens seems to be someone who figured out how to make her some clickbait dollars.