Political Roundtable Part XXXIV

[Kanyewest]

I can't believe this isn't more of a big deal, but I suppose we are way past that at this point.

https://www.theverge.com/politics/640230/elon-musk-wisconsin-supreme-court-million-dollars-brad-schimel

Elon setting up fake sweepstakes to get voters to vote R in Wisconsin.

He did the same thing in PA in the 2024 election.

[AFM]

I can't believe this isn't more of a big deal, but I suppose we are way past that at this point.

https://www.theverge.com/politics/640230/elon-musk-wisconsin-supreme-court-million-dollars-brad-schimel

Elon setting up fake sweepstakes to get voters to vote R in Wisconsin.

He did the same thing in PA in the 2024 election.

I remember that but had it come out that the “sweepstakes” were a sham?

[Kanyewest]

I can't believe this isn't more of a big deal, but I suppose we are way past that at this point.

https://www.theverge.com/politics/640230/elon-musk-wisconsin-supreme-court-million-dollars-brad-schimel

Elon setting up fake sweepstakes to get voters to vote R in Wisconsin.

He did the same thing in PA in the 2024 election.

I remember that but had it come out that the “sweepstakes” were a sham?

Yeah, apparently he admitted in court, well his lawyers did, that the "winners" of this scheme during the presidential election were pre-selected.

https://apnews.com/article/musk-million-sweepstakes-lottery-pennsylvania-krasner-4f683c48eb7dcc57f183e54ef16e7320

[AFM]

He did the same thing in PA in the 2024 election.

I remember that but had it come out that the “sweepstakes” were a sham?

Yeah, apparently he admitted in court, well his lawyers did, that the "winners" of this scheme during the presidential election were pre-selected.

https://apnews.com/article/musk-million-sweepstakes-lottery-pennsylvania-krasner-4f683c48eb7dcc57f183e54ef16e7320

Interesting thanks. A fake give away to drum up support.
Meanwhile today he gets sued by the NYC pension fund for cratering Tesla’s stock due to his sheer incompetence at DOGE and neglecting his role as CEO.

[AFM]

Things don’t look good for Tesla right now, but a new survey cast even more uncertainty over its recovery outlook. According to data from market research firm YouGov, while 92% of Americans are aware of Tesla’s brand, only 9% would consider purchasing one of its vehicles.

It’s over for Tesla. Good riddance.

They will study Elon’s disastrous crashout hundreds of years from now in business schools all over the world. A pure masterclass in destroying an admired brand.

[Zonkerbl]

SELL YOUR TESLA STOCK

[Wizardspride]

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[doclinkin]

Cory Booker. That was incredible. I watched the last 2 hours. He spoke with more passion the longer he went.

[AFM]

Cory Booker. That was incredible. I watched the last 2 hours. He spoke with more passion the longer he went.

Absolutely.

That being said, I don't mean to be crude, you fellas know that's not my style, but was he just shiddin and pissin hisself up there? 24 hrs

[dobrojim]

Booker could be someone to watch going into '28.

Elon’s guy Schimmel lost the WI Justice race. The GOP
won the two FL special elections but by reduced margins.

[Zonkerbl]

Cory Booker. That was incredible. I watched the last 2 hours. He spoke with more passion the longer he went.

Absolutely.

That being said, I don't mean to be crude, you fellas know that's not my style, but was he just shiddin and pissin hisself up there? 24 hrs

Interesting question. He fasted and dehydrated himself before the speech and then rushed to the bathroom immediately after

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/02/cory-booker-speech-eat-food-water/82771467007/

[AFM]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/02/business/tesla-sales-elon-musk.html


Oops you destroyed your company!

[Zonkerbl]

Booker could be someone to watch going into '28.

Elon’s guy Schimmel lost the WI Justice race. The GOP
won the two FL special elections but by reduced margins.

There are a lot of really exciting Democrats who ran for the nomination in 2020 and then just inexplicably fell flat: Warren, Booker, Buttigieg, Harris.

Harris dropped out the earliest because she was the least popular, AND SHE NEARLY WON in 2024. Biden barely won in 2020, arguably because he was the least popular among progressives. Well, in an alternate universe where our currently insane Dem mods would have had the courage to vote for a progressive candidate. Progressives begrudgingly came out and voted for Biden, but didn't get the convincing win we needed to end the threat forever, and look where we are now.

I am going to point fingers here. Objectively you have to put this at the feet of "moderate" Dems who absolutely refused to get with the future of the Democratic movement, insisting on a creaky old fuddy duddy Biden and that's why we're where we are now. It's not just Dem leadership, it wasn't that there was a conspiracy in Dem leadership to push Biden, it's people in this thread, it's my brother, it's friends that I respect on facebook, who refused to vote for anyone but Biden. People that absolutely would not, under any circumstances, consider compromising with the so-called "radical left" progressive wing that, gasp, wants universal health care, or *swoon* to reoptimize public funding away from police and towards services that better address community harm reduction, or EGADS increase taxes on the rich to reverse the FOUR DECADES LONG TREND of stealing from the poor to give to the rich that the Republicans have pursued and cowardly moderate Dems have acquiesced to.

It is 100% the fault of moderate Dems to refuse to work with the progressive wing, while it was obvious to EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY that the Republicans had 100% embraced their racist, evil right wing, that we are in the mess that we are in now. We probably will never get out of this mess. But if we are going to get out of this mess, it will only be through compromise with the progressive wing. That is the only way out that does not result in this country remaining a theocratic dictatorship.

And that means moderate dems had GODDAMMIT better FRICKING swallow their pride and vote for FRICKING Booker, or Warren, or Buttigieg this time during the primaries. Assuming we even have POTUS elections in 2028, which is a big assumption.

[AFM]

Booker could be someone to watch going into '28.

Elon’s guy Schimmel lost the WI Justice race. The GOP
won the two FL special elections but by reduced margins.

There are a lot of really exciting Democrats who ran for the nomination in 2020 and then just inexplicably fell flat: Warren, Booker, Buttigieg, Harris.

Harris dropped out the earliest because she was the least popular, AND SHE NEARLY WON in 2024. Biden barely won in 2020, arguably because he was the least popular among progressives. Well, in an alternate universe where our currently insane Dem mods would have had the courage to vote for a progressive candidate. Progressives begrudgingly came out and voted for Biden, but didn't get the convincing win we needed to end the threat forever, and look where we are now.

I am going to point fingers here. Objectively you have to put this at the feet of "moderate" Dems who absolutely refused to get with the future of the Democratic movement, insisting on a creaky old fuddy duddy Biden and that's why we're where we are now. It's not just Dem leadership, it wasn't that there was a conspiracy in Dem leadership to push Biden, it's people in this thread, it's my brother, it's friends that I respect on facebook, who refused to vote for anyone but Biden. People that absolutely would not, under any circumstances, consider compromising with the so-called "radical left" progressive wing that, gasp, wants universal health care, or *swoon* to reoptimize public funding away from police and towards services that better address community harm reduction, or EGADS increase taxes on the rich to reverse the FOUR DECADES LONG TREND of stealing from the poor to give to the rich that the Republicans have pursued and cowardly moderate Dems have acquiesced to.

It is 100% the fault of moderate Dems to refuse to work with the progressive wing, while it was obvious to EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY that the Republicans had 100% embraced their racist, evil right wing, that we are in the mess that we are in now. We probably will never get out of this mess. But if we are going to get out of this mess, it will only be through compromise with the progressive wing. That is the only way out that does not result in this country remaining a theocratic dictatorship.

And that means moderate dems had GODDAMMIT better FRICKING swallow their pride and vote for FRICKING Booker, or Warren, or Buttigieg this time during the primaries. Assuming we even have POTUS elections in 2028, which is a big assumption.

How about all the dems that stayed home because of Palestine? Like the republicans were going to be any better on that issue lol.

[Kanyewest]

Booker could be someone to watch going into '28.

Elon’s guy Schimmel lost the WI Justice race. The GOP
won the two FL special elections but by reduced margins.

There are a lot of really exciting Democrats who ran for the nomination in 2020 and then just inexplicably fell flat: Warren, Booker, Buttigieg, Harris.

Harris dropped out the earliest because she was the least popular, AND SHE NEARLY WON in 2024. Biden barely won in 2020, arguably because he was the least popular among progressives. Well, in an alternate universe where our currently insane Dem mods would have had the courage to vote for a progressive candidate. Progressives begrudgingly came out and voted for Biden, but didn't get the convincing win we needed to end the threat forever, and look where we are now.

I am going to point fingers here. Objectively you have to put this at the feet of "moderate" Dems who absolutely refused to get with the future of the Democratic movement, insisting on a creaky old fuddy duddy Biden and that's why we're where we are now. It's not just Dem leadership, it wasn't that there was a conspiracy in Dem leadership to push Biden, it's people in this thread, it's my brother, it's friends that I respect on facebook, who refused to vote for anyone but Biden. People that absolutely would not, under any circumstances, consider compromising with the so-called "radical left" progressive wing that, gasp, wants universal health care, or *swoon* to reoptimize public funding away from police and towards services that better address community harm reduction, or EGADS increase taxes on the rich to reverse the FOUR DECADES LONG TREND of stealing from the poor to give to the rich that the Republicans have pursued and cowardly moderate Dems have acquiesced to.

It is 100% the fault of moderate Dems to refuse to work with the progressive wing, while it was obvious to EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY that the Republicans had 100% embraced their racist, evil right wing, that we are in the mess that we are in now. We probably will never get out of this mess. But if we are going to get out of this mess, it will only be through compromise with the progressive wing. That is the only way out that does not result in this country remaining a theocratic dictatorship.

And that means moderate dems had GODDAMMIT better FRICKING swallow their pride and vote for FRICKING Booker, or Warren, or Buttigieg this time during the primaries. Assuming we even have POTUS elections in 2028, which is a big assumption.

Yup. Harris seemed like a poor choice from the start. Slightly better than Biden at the stage he was at but honestly it was depressing when it was she announced as the candidate mostly because of her poor performance in the 2020 primary. I hope the Democrats allow for contingencies but it seems unlikely. Especially since the VP is picked usually to compliment the presidential candidate, not necessarily to be the one to lead the ticket.

[Zonkerbl]

Booker could be someone to watch going into '28.

Elon’s guy Schimmel lost the WI Justice race. The GOP
won the two FL special elections but by reduced margins.

There are a lot of really exciting Democrats who ran for the nomination in 2020 and then just inexplicably fell flat: Warren, Booker, Buttigieg, Harris.

Harris dropped out the earliest because she was the least popular, AND SHE NEARLY WON in 2024. Biden barely won in 2020, arguably because he was the least popular among progressives. Well, in an alternate universe where our currently insane Dem mods would have had the courage to vote for a progressive candidate. Progressives begrudgingly came out and voted for Biden, but didn't get the convincing win we needed to end the threat forever, and look where we are now.

I am going to point fingers here. Objectively you have to put this at the feet of "moderate" Dems who absolutely refused to get with the future of the Democratic movement, insisting on a creaky old fuddy duddy Biden and that's why we're where we are now. It's not just Dem leadership, it wasn't that there was a conspiracy in Dem leadership to push Biden, it's people in this thread, it's my brother, it's friends that I respect on facebook, who refused to vote for anyone but Biden. People that absolutely would not, under any circumstances, consider compromising with the so-called "radical left" progressive wing that, gasp, wants universal health care, or *swoon* to reoptimize public funding away from police and towards services that better address community harm reduction, or EGADS increase taxes on the rich to reverse the FOUR DECADES LONG TREND of stealing from the poor to give to the rich that the Republicans have pursued and cowardly moderate Dems have acquiesced to.

It is 100% the fault of moderate Dems to refuse to work with the progressive wing, while it was obvious to EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY that the Republicans had 100% embraced their racist, evil right wing, that we are in the mess that we are in now. We probably will never get out of this mess. But if we are going to get out of this mess, it will only be through compromise with the progressive wing. That is the only way out that does not result in this country remaining a theocratic dictatorship.

And that means moderate dems had GODDAMMIT better FRICKING swallow their pride and vote for FRICKING Booker, or Warren, or Buttigieg this time during the primaries. Assuming we even have POTUS elections in 2028, which is a big assumption.

How about all the dems that stayed home because of Palestine? Like the republicans were going to be any better on that issue lol.

Well, that's what I'm talking about. All Biden had to do is stop rubber stamping NetanyaTrump and he wouldn't do it. It's really easy to set "damn, looks kinda like you're publicly admitting you're committing genocide here" as a line you won't cross for supporting [to be precise, sending funding to] Israel.

But here's the thing. If Biden had stopped funding Israel, he probably would have reassured his progressive wing that he has their back, and they would have showed up more enthusiastically. But then would he have lost moderate votes? Probably! And this is what I'm talking about. The moderates in the Dem party are too rigid and unpersuadable. Arrogant, even. It is a perfectly reasonable thing to stop sending money to Israel when their policies become too extremely barbaric. It is objectively the right thing to do. But we don't have the Dem equivalent of Fox News to get everyone in the party rowing in the same direction, so we have progressives, paying attention closely to what is going on and reaching logical conclusions based off of the evidence in front of them, and Dems whose opinions about things were set in stone in the 90s and there's no way to budge them off of them, evidence/logic be damned. Republicans are winning now because of their arrogance and pride and shamelessness. Dems have to be less arrogant and more humble, more persuadable. Because progressives aren't evil and I don't understand why moderates reflexively treat them as such. Well, I do understand why - right wing brainwashing that made it impossible to call yourself "liberal" in the 90s and why "woke" is an insult now. Dem mods have swallowed that garbage up unquestioningly, stupidly. It's shameful. I try not to point fingers and just try to be responsible for my own stuff but I gotta say, you guys suck sometimes. And it hurts to be stuck where we are now because of stuff that is out of my control. I wish you guys would get your ish together.

[pancakes3]

Cory Booker. That was incredible. I watched the last 2 hours. He spoke with more passion the longer he went.

Absolutely.

That being said, I don't mean to be crude, you fellas know that's not my style, but was he just shiddin and pissin hisself up there? 24 hrs

Interesting question. He fasted and dehydrated himself before the speech and then rushed to the bathroom immediately after

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/02/cory-booker-speech-eat-food-water/82771467007/

https://www.instagram.com/share/BAJnswBG7_

[dobrojim]

I used to really like Steve Schmidt but since
Nov/Jan had become disenchanted with him.

That said, more recently he's been regaining my
appreciation. He has not been mincing words.
Once or twice in this video, I wanted to stand
up and applaud.

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[dobrojim]

It doesn’t appear that Golfy knows tariffs are a tax
and this is a huge tax increase. But he knows that
his spokesperson can run her mouth with complete
falsehoods nonstop with complete excrement.

I wish MAGA voters would have listened more
carefully as tariffs have been an obsession
for Golfy even as nearly none of his voters have
remarked that they couldn't wait for them to be enacted.

Hoping this is what starts a stampede of voters
to disembark from the Trump train.

Grover Norquist where are you?