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How Pungent Is The Suck Emanating From Eric Maynor

Meh,I know it's there but it doesn't bother me...like a dirty sock.
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18%
It's foul. I cringe every time he plays
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It's mind boggling that this guy is a basketball player
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25%
Truly Epic...like no suck we've seen before
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35%
 
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Re: Captain Suck benched...it only took 20 games. 

Post#421 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:50 am

mhd wrote:Booker's always been a pretty competent player. The problem with him is injuries and his relative lack of bulk. No issue with him as a draft pick.


Also true...
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Re: Captain Suck benched...it only took 20 games. 

Post#422 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:52 am

mhd wrote:
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mhd wrote:Booker's always been a pretty competent player. The problem with him is injuries and his relative lack of bulk. No issue with him as a draft pick.


Booker has never looked this good though. He looked good over a year ago, but he never made the mid range like he is now. His last 3 games have not been normal Booker. But for as good as he has looked, he isn't a starter. He defense is to limiting.

And Kevin made some really nice moves last night.

And the last two games, the bench has looked pretty good actually. They even scored 32 pts last night and 25 the night before.

Just when it looks like the ship is sinking, I think things could start to turn for him. Otto will find his legs. Singleton hit two nice 3 ball last night. Booker has look good on offense and rebounding. He defense still is a problem though. Glen is playing great D and starting to get a feel for the NBA game with ever new minute he gets. Webster should find his grove by next game after being out a few games with a back ankle. Beal will be back soon. Ves is starting to show some offensive assertiveness. He made a really nice left handed move.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing the next 10 games. Specially if Nene's new treatment gets him better.

Gotta a get a win and break this losing streak.



REALLY disagree on Seraphin. Worst shot selection I've ever seen. That has not improved in 4 years. He refuses to pass the ball.


I think the biggest knock on Seraphin is that he is rebounding at a worse clip than Maynor. His DRB% is 9 - really, I am not making this up.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#423 » by kirubel94 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:45 am

Pierre Jackson update. 49 pts for the Idaho Stampede yesterday. No other stats needed.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#424 » by Nivek » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:00 am

When did the ruling come down that folks are allowed only one knock on Seraphin? He's been terrible with the exception of a roughly 6-week stretch of his 2nd season. This year, he's extremely inefficient (13 points per 100 possessions less efficient than average), he's an atrocious rebounder, and a poor defender. Back to offense, he misses a high number of his FGA, he's a crappy passer, and he's a turnover machine.

I guess, by some magic he could become a semi-useful player if he somehow changes the way he plays. You know, if he starts making shots, getting rebounds, not turning it over so much. In other words, if he became good, then he'd be good. Right now, he's bad. He's been bad. The most likely thing to expect: he'll continue to be bad.

This should not be viewed as an indictment of his character or of him as a person. I find him likeable. I just wish he was better at basketball. Barring a magical transformation, he's not an NBA player.
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Re: Captain Suck benched...it only took 20 games. 

Post#425 » by hands11 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 2:50 am

dckingsfan wrote:
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dckingsfan wrote:Seraphin, Harrington, Booker, Vesely, Singleton, Maynor and Temple - are ample reason to have the FO dismissed.

Booker may be coming around, but I don't think it will be in time.

Leaving Harrington out of the discussion (comparatively ancient), the other six are aged 23-27, in their 3rd-5th year. Not saying Booker is or should be a big part of the Wizards' future, but look at this comparison:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y6=2014

Compared to the others, Booker stands out as having had a pretty solid career, the entire career. Regardless of his shortcomings, no GM should be crucified for choosing him with the 23rd pick.


Good point.


Interesting to see KS usage only at 20%. I would have guessed higher. Also interesting was to see Ves leading that group in FTr Ves also leading the team in STL% And he is 3rd in rebounding rate.

Glad to see Glen, Otto and Singleton on the floor. The bench is starting to fill out finally. Beal returning will also help. The team still hasn't reached near its peak.
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Re: Captain Suck benched...it only took 20 games. 

Post#426 » by hands11 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:03 am

dckingsfan wrote:
mhd wrote:
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Booker has never looked this good though. He looked good over a year ago, but he never made the mid range like he is now. His last 3 games have not been normal Booker. But for as good as he has looked, he isn't a starter. He defense is to limiting.

And Kevin made some really nice moves last night.

And the last two games, the bench has looked pretty good actually. They even scored 32 pts last night and 25 the night before.

Just when it looks like the ship is sinking, I think things could start to turn for him. Otto will find his legs. Singleton hit two nice 3 ball last night. Booker has look good on offense and rebounding. He defense still is a problem though. Glen is playing great D and starting to get a feel for the NBA game with ever new minute he gets. Webster should find his grove by next game after being out a few games with a back ankle. Beal will be back soon. Ves is starting to show some offensive assertiveness. He made a really nice left handed move.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing the next 10 games. Specially if Nene's new treatment gets him better.

Gotta a get a win and break this losing streak.



REALLY disagree on Seraphin. Worst shot selection I've ever seen. That has not improved in 4 years. He refuses to pass the ball.


I think the biggest knock on Seraphin is that he is rebounding at a worse clip than Maynor. His DRB% is 9 - really, I am not making this up.


Kevin appears to be a bench post scoring spark. Points per 36 is 17 with is only behind Wall and Beal. And since he only shoot 2 pointers, .455 FG% isn't horrible. Kevin is a very offensive minded player. He can use both hands which is a good sign. Means he put in the work. That's who he is right now. That's why Randy put him in the game when they were down 22 and you saw him put up a lot of shots and points quickly. 16 pts in 20 mins on 7-12 and 2-2 from the line.

He actually has quit a few post moves. He hasn't put it all together, but a player like that has his usefulness. Specially if the game starts slowing down for him. Which I have seen glimpses of times. I think in 2 years Kevin could mature enough to be a really good player. He has that potential. And its not like he doesn't put in the work. He just has to grow up more.

He just turned 24 on Dec 7th.

So I would have two modes for Kevin and I would explain the different to him so he isn't confused. Put him in like Randy did last night when you are down and unleash him. Go get buckets. 2nd would be tell him, its not that time. Give him some minutes when you are ahead or the game is close and tell him, go work on the rest of your game. We need an athletic defender in the post right now. Not your scoring. Box out. Rebound, catch and pass unless a PG feeds you a bunny on an opp or similar.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#427 » by TGW » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:15 am

Kevin Seraphin is a terrible basektball player, and like Maynor, is a big reason why this bench stinks. They need to get rid of him as badly as they need to replace Maynor.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#428 » by hands11 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:31 am

TGW wrote:Kevin Seraphin is a terrible basektball player, and like Maynor, is a big reason why this bench stinks. They need to get rid of him as badly as they need to replace Maynor.


Maybe. I've made trade suggestions with him and bashed him plenty.

But lets rewind. This string about Kevin started because I wrote one line in a post that was about things I saw good in the LAC game. I said as part of that ..

And Kevin made some really nice moves last night.

Which he did. It wasn't about his career. Just the one game.

But I would disagree blaming Kevin as a big reason the bench played bad. Its because all that was left after injuries was a group of utility players that you couldn't play together. Not enough scoring or ball handing. Getting Glen and Otto up to speed is going to help with that. And once Beal is back they should finally have enough depth to actually have starters and a bench.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#429 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:59 am

Outside of Nene (oft injured), Gortat, Ariza, Webster, Beal and Wall it is hard to argue that any of the other players is NBA ready.

One could argue that Booker belongs in the conversation with the caveat that he is oft injured.

The rest of the bench is pretty meh at best and pretty terrible at worst.

I would agree that Rice and Porter deserve time to develop.

I would think the probability of the rest of the bench actually developing into legit NBA rotation players is not high. Booker could if he could stay healthy. Vesely if he could develop confidence, Seraphin if he wasn't soft as tissue paper, Maynor never, Singleton never, Harrington if he could heal but that won't be until next season. Temple - he is what he is.

It really is the worst bench in the NBA right now - or at least one of the top 5 worst benches.

This is really a very poorly assembled team and a terrible bench with (since this is a Maynor thread) Maynor leading the way. And Seraphin had a great game all things considered (this year he has a PER < 10, DRB% < 10 and a negative WS/48.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#430 » by closg00 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:33 am

kirubel94 wrote:Pierre Jackson update. 49 pts for the Idaho Stampede yesterday. No other stats needed.


Waive Singleton and call-up Jackson :nod:
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#431 » by closg00 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:36 am

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Post#432 » by closg00 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:43 am

closg00 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTTgLQBYjKU[/youtube]

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2013/12 ... ampede-win


Here's our closer gents.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#433 » by nate33 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:25 pm

closg00 wrote:
closg00 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTTgLQBYjKU[/youtube]

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2013/12 ... ampede-win


Here's our closer gents.

He made some beautiful assists in addition to those 49 points. I really think he'd be a perfect pickup for us. I love undersized PG's with complete games as backup PG's. They can typically do anything a starting PG can do on offense, and their defensive inadequacies don't get exploited when playing against opposing benches. He's even more useful for a team like us because he has the outside shot to play off the ball and handle some backup SG responsibility. (We are fortunate enough to have an oversized PG who can defend shooting guards.)

For the love of God, Ernie, sign him. He's just what the doctor ordered - a shot creator for the 2nd unit. Just dump Temple or Singleton to create the roster spot. With Glen Rice Jr. now looking like he belongs in the league, there really isn't a need for both of those guys anymore - particularly Temple.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#434 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:46 pm

nate33 wrote:
closg00 wrote:
closg00 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTTgLQBYjKU[/youtube]

http://www.ridiculousupside.com/2013/12 ... ampede-win


Here's our closer gents.

He made some beautiful assists in addition to those 49 points. I really think he'd be a perfect pickup for us. I love undersized PG's with complete games as backup PG's. They can typically do anything a starting PG can do on offense, and their defensive inadequacies don't get exploited when playing against opposing benches. He's even more useful for a team like us because he has the outside shot to play off the ball and handle some backup SG responsibility. (We are fortunate enough to have an oversized PG who can defend shooting guards.)

For the love of God, Ernie, sign him. He's just what the doctor ordered - a shot creator for the 2nd unit. Just dump Temple or Singleton to create the roster spot. With Glen Rice Jr. now looking like he belongs in the league, there really isn't a need for both of those guys anymore - particularly Temple.


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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#435 » by closg00 » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:28 pm

But here's an unfortunate reminder: The Pelicans hold Jackson's rights, so no other NBA team can call him up unless they trade for him.


Yikes!!! My-bad fella's :oops:
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#436 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 3:59 pm

closg00 wrote:
But here's an unfortunate reminder: The Pelicans hold Jackson's rights, so no other NBA team can call him up unless they trade for him.


Yikes!!! My-bad fella's :oops:


Damn, that is one good GM...
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#437 » by Kanyewest » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:44 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
closg00 wrote:
But here's an unfortunate reminder: The Pelicans hold Jackson's rights, so no other NBA team can call him up unless they trade for him.


Yikes!!! My-bad fella's :oops:


Damn, that is one good GM...


Except for the Tyreke Evans signing.
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#438 » by dckingsfan » Mon Dec 16, 2013 5:48 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
closg00 wrote:
Yikes!!! My-bad fella's :oops:


Damn, that is one good GM...


Except for the Tyreke Evans signing.


Actually, when I first read this, I thought it was OKC that held his rights. But yes, that was horrible - happy he didn't sign in Sac :)
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Re: Maynor Steals The Tennis Balls From Your Grandma's Walke 

Post#439 » by hands11 » Tue Dec 17, 2013 4:09 am

Best 4 min/game 2M player in the league.
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Post#440 » by Kanyewest » Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:27 am

dckingsfan wrote:
Actually, when I first read this, I thought it was OKC that held his rights. But yes, that was horrible - happy he didn't sign in Sac :)


True that guy in OKC is a genius- his picks of Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, and Jackson are pretty good.

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