Political Roundtable Part XXIV

[Wizardspride]

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[TGW]

Did you read this article?

Yes I did WP. What part do you think I didn't read? I want to hear the 'splainin on this.

How bout instead of taking cheap shots - admit the wall is one of the all-time idiotic ideas in American history?

I agree, hence why I was pissed when I heard that they were offering $1.9B for the wall, a horrendous use of our taxpayer money. I'm glad they held firm.

[pancakes3]

the 1.8 billion figure is for "border security" in general. trump's proposal as it stands right now asks for 23 billion, with 18 billion earmarked for the wall, and 2.7 billion for actual border security (detention facilities, increased hiring of ICE agents, etc.)

and all of this pales in comparison with the increase in military spending being requested.

Trump making the looming budget shutown about the wall is a diversionary tactic to make it look like it's reds v blues, when in truth there are serious concerns about how this budget bloats the military and will increase the deficit. of course the wall is a waste of taxpayer money, but so is ordering the construction of a "new nuclear force."

there was a recent story out about how trump increased his budget request from $719 billion to 750 billion as a negotiation tactic. this wall is another negotiation tactic. everything is to sell himself to the base. dems are obstructionists by forcing a shut down - not that his budget request is patently absurd. dems hate the military. dems don't care about the border wall. when in reality, the guts of the bill, the stuff that nobody cares about, he knows that... people won't care about it.

an increase of 719 to 750 billion pays for the wall, and also covers all the programs that Trump is asking to cut - PBS, energy star certification, national wildlife refuge fund, research grants to NOAA, OSHA, etc.

but this isn't a dem v. repubs argument. it's about fiscal responsibility on a massive scale. it's about international isolationism paired with military escalation. if the U.S. was a high school student, we should be on a watch list.

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/420490-trump-in-reversal-calls-for-pentagon-to-raise-budget-request-to-750b-reports

[TGW]

Hey Ruzious, when I said the Washington ComPost (and other establishment news media) regurgitates CIA drivel, listen to this interview of this Cal State Professor on the murder of Khassoggi:

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Like I said, when it comes to the military industrial complex and intel agencies, American news media is state propaganda.

[stilldropin20]

words can not express how proud I am of Trump and this GOP congress to bring much needed relief to our fellow black and brown folks locked up behind bars due to terrible Democratic Clinton Crime Bill. When this gets passed I might cry.

I hope this Bill will begin to immediately release non violent offenders that have good records behind bars. Let's get em out!! and let's get em jobs!! I am going to personally try to hire at least 1 person per year for the next 4 years that is released on this bill. We should all do our part!

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[Pointgod]

Like everything with Republicans you have to look at the fine print with their policies.

https://splinternews.com/trumps-criminal-justice-bill-is-a-huge-giveaway-to-priv-1830985256#amp-uvsj4Xu5pNz21BSpUYkn21OV2IaDWJelrHH-aX0TuJMLNuoq9AFKsa_XobZwW7Lx

At first blush, the First Step Act looks... fine. The bill is narrow in scope, but it would reduce mandatory minimum sentences for some federal prisoners serving time for nonviolent drug convictions. Unfortunately, this wouldn’t affect a huge amount of people—about three percent of the 181,000 federal inmates

Federal business filings show GEO Group and CoreCivic have aggressively expanded in recent years into another sector of the criminal justice system: post-prison rehabilitation. It’s one of the fastest-growing pieces in the companies’ respective portfolios.

Last year, GEO Group bought one of the country’s largest providers of halfway houses, Community Education Centers, for $360 million. CoreCivic owns dozens of re-entry centers and recently told investors more acquisitions are on the horizon.

Should Congress approve the FIRST STEP Act, demand will rise for the very services these two companies now provide en masse. The bill authorizes a $375 million expansion of post-prison services for inmates transitioning back into society.

For their part, GEO Group and CoreCivic have closely aligned themselves with Trump. Each donated $250,000 to Trump’s inaugural fund. Last year GEO Group moved its annual leadership conference from a venue near its Boca Raton headquarters to a Trump-owned Miami-area golf resort, the Washington Post reported last year.

Oh shocker Trump is doing something that his corporate donors want and that he’s personally benefitted from financially. How does it feel to have a President that’s so easily bought?

[Pointgod]

I don’t know which poster mentioned it but immigration is 100% a red herring. Republicans don’t give a **** about immigration or else they would have passed immigration reform as harsh as they wanted when they controlled all 3 levels of government. All Republicans care about is using immigration as a political cudgel so they can scare their xenophobic base into voting. A couple truths:

The US needs more immigration not only to fill jobs but create a base for older people on social security.

Building a wall is an idiotic waste of money since the majority of undocumented immigrants are Visa over stays.

The majority of undocumented immigrants are seeking economic opportunities. If the US would invest in countries of origin to make them better places to stay then the incentive to enter the US is reduce

The US can’t ignore how they’ve contributed to the **** conditions in central and South America that lead to economic migrants

[Ruzious]

Hey Ruzious, when I said the Washington ComPost (and other establishment news media) regurgitates CIA drivel, listen to this interview of this Cal State Professor on the murder of Khassoggi:

Watch on YouTube

;t=284s

Like I said, when it comes to the military industrial complex and intel agencies, American news media is state propaganda.

I think the appropriate response to your post is... Huh?

[queridiculo]

Hey Ruzious, when I said the Washington ComPost (and other establishment news media) regurgitates CIA drivel, listen to this interview of this Cal State Professor on the murder of Khassoggi:

Watch on YouTube

;t=284s

Like I said, when it comes to the military industrial complex and intel agencies, American news media is state propaganda.

Characterizing the Post as regurgitating CIA drivel and offering this up as evidence?

[TGW]

Hey Ruzious, when I said the Washington ComPost (and other establishment news media) regurgitates CIA drivel, listen to this interview of this Cal State Professor on the murder of Khassoggi:

Watch on YouTube

;t=284s

Like I said, when it comes to the military industrial complex and intel agencies, American news media is state propaganda.

Characterizing the Post as regurgitating CIA drivel and offering this up as evidence?

What I'm saying is that it's not some crazy concocted idea that I just made up...there are many scholars and political analysts who have that same opinion. Look at the history of the CIA (Operation Mockingbird) and look at the stories that the Post and the Times run regarding military intervention, defense, and intel. If you find anything negative written about those 3 things, it would be the proverbial needle in a haystack in the form of an opinion piece.

Oh, I also forgot to add...they get financial backing from the CIA and have a former CIA head on their board. But other than that, the Post has nothing to do with CIA propaganda.

But the outlet’s behind-the-scenes relationship with the CIA is nothing new. In 2013, a conflict of interest arose shortly after Jeff Bezos, founder and CEO of Amazon, purchased the newspaper. As the Nation reported at the time:

“[Jeff Bezos] recently secured a $600 million contract from the CIA. That’s at least twice what Bezos paid for the Post this year. Bezos recently disclosed that the company’s Web-services business is building a ‘private cloud’ for the CIA to use for its data needs.”

As this occurred, a petition calling on the Washington Post to disclose its new ties to the CIA when reporting on the agency garnered 30,000 signatures. According to the RootsforAction petition:

“The Post often does reporting on CIA activities. The coverage should include full disclosure that the owner of the Washington Post is also the main owner of Amazon — and Amazon is now gaining huge profits directly from the CIA.”

Robert McChesney of the Institute for Public Accuracy pointed out the glaring conflict of interest:

“If some official enemy of the United States had a comparable situation—say the owner of the dominant newspaper in Caracas was getting $600 million in secretive contracts from the Maduro government—the Post itself would lead the howling chorus impaling that newspaper and that government for making a mockery of a free press. It is time for the Post to take a dose of its own medicine.”

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[closg00]

It’s about time Trump and his criminal enterprise gets investigated, everything from his phony charity to his stuffing of contractors for decades. Bring-it!!!

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[Wizardspride]

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[Jamaaliver]

Trump administration hid report revealing Wells Fargo charged high fees to students



The Trump administration for months concealed a report that showed Wells Fargo charged college students fees that were on average several times higher than some of its competitors.

The “unpublished” report was obtained by POLITICO through a Freedom of Information Act request. It was produced by the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau office previously led by Seth Frotman, who quit as the bureau’s top student loan official in protest of Trump administration policies. Frotman said in his resignation letter that CFPB leaders had “suppressed the publication” of the report.

The report raises questions about whether campus accounts with high fees comply with Education Department rules requiring colleges to make sure the products they help promote are “not inconsistent with the best financial interests” of their students.

The largest provider of campus accounts was BankMobile, which is offered by Customers Bank and had annual average fees of $12.12 per account. PNC Bank, the third-largest provider, charged average annual fees of $15.84.

Wells Fargo was the second-largest provider with average annual fees of $46.99 per account.

Politico

[gtn130]

^^ That's just how you #MAGA. Hide from the public that banks are ripping them off. Good stuff!

[dckingsfan]

I don’t know which poster mentioned it but immigration is 100% a red herring. Republicans don’t give a **** about immigration or else they would have passed immigration reform as harsh as they wanted when they controlled all 3 levels of government. All Republicans care about is using immigration as a political cudgel so they can scare their xenophobic base into voting. A couple truths:

The US needs more immigration not only to fill jobs but create a base for older people on social security.

Building a wall is an idiotic waste of money since the majority of undocumented immigrants are Visa over stays.

The majority of undocumented immigrants are seeking economic opportunities. If the US would invest in countries of origin to make them better places to stay then the incentive to enter the US is reduce

The US can’t ignore how they’ve contributed to the **** conditions in central and South America that lead to economic migrants

Another way to look at it is: we 100% have immigration issues that allowed a demagogue to exploit.

Another way to look at it: Every time we "invest" in other countries, we make it MUCH worse.

One thing we are in agreement on, the current POTUS has vilified immigrants and made a bad situation terrible and is open to throwing money away at the same time driving down the same tax receipts that would be needed to pay for it.

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[Pointgod]

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Hey dummy if you’re going to try and slam someone at least post news that’s factually correct. We don’t need more STDs runnnjng around here.

https://moneyinc.com/nancy-pelosi-net-worth/

[JWizmentality]

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Hey dummy if you’re going to try and slam someone at least post news that’s factually correct. We don’t need more STDs runnnjng around here.

https://moneyinc.com/nancy-pelosi-net-worth/

I keep telling ya'll they're the same person.