tontoz wrote:Nice to see him hitting the boards but a 50% TS is still lame.
17 on 15 & 2 is actually a .535 TS% -- still not good...
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tontoz wrote:Nice to see him hitting the boards but a 50% TS is still lame.
tontoz wrote:Nice to see him hitting the boards but a 50% TS is still lame.
Dat2U wrote:tontoz wrote:Nice to see him hitting the boards but a 50% TS is still lame.
Nonsense. Sarr is not 24 yrs old. This is part of the growing process. 17 & 14 is damn good for a 7-1 teenager. Only a stat nerd whines & complains about a young rookie's TS% in the early stages of a rebuild. How many teenagers you know have put up those raw numbers? Hint: it's a short list.
For young, developing players... production comes first and then the efficiency should improve over time.
tontoz wrote:Dat2U wrote:tontoz wrote:Nice to see him hitting the boards but a 50% TS is still lame.
Nonsense. Sarr is not 24 yrs old. This is part of the growing process. 17 & 14 is damn good for a 7-1 teenager. Only a stat nerd whines & complains about a young rookie's TS% in the early stages of a rebuild. How many teenagers you know have put up those raw numbers? Hint: it's a short list.
For young, developing players... production comes first and then the efficiency should improve over time.
He isn't a pg either. He's a 7 footer who is going to get a lot of easy baskets at the rim. His efficiency is awful.
If you can point out any other bigs in this draft who have been as inefficient on offense while also being lousy at man D feel free to share.
BTW Indy ranks 26th in defense and 23rd in rebounding.
Dat2U wrote:
Man, if only we had drafted Reed Sheppard.
dobrojim wrote:19 yo, less than 20 games into his career.
Let's see how he plays after 120 games or in his 3rd year after he's filled out a little more.
I'm hopeful, assuming he doesn't suffer a nasty injury.
Dat2U wrote:I tell you, DC is the only fan base that goes out of their way to hate on their young talent. It's not just Alex, I'm watching Jayden Daniels getting BBQ'd on X now. I remember all the random hate RG3 got when he put his body & career on the line for Skins. We trashed Wall & Beal until they became young all-stars, then continued to trash 'em thereafter. It's a built-in defense mechanism where we can't acknowledge any success or growth because we're so trained to brace for eventual failure.
TheBlackCzar wrote:As far as Sarr is concerned it's pretty obvious him being a skinny teenager is having an affect on his shooting, rebounding and defense.... But to sit here and watch him guard Halliburton multiple times and forcing Tyrese to stay on the perimeter because he couldn't get by young Boy, I'm like are you not seeing the vision....
I've seen Sarr cross over dudes, behind the back dribble bringing the ball up and then hitting a nice bounce pass off the dribble to a cutting player and I'm like hmmmmm, what do we have here.... He is one of the few humans on earth who is as agile, tall and athletic as he is......
DCZards wrote:TheBlackCzar wrote:As far as Sarr is concerned it's pretty obvious him being a skinny teenager is having an affect on his shooting, rebounding and defense.... But to sit here and watch him guard Halliburton multiple times and forcing Tyrese to stay on the perimeter because he couldn't get by young Boy, I'm like are you not seeing the vision....
I've seen Sarr cross over dudes, behind the back dribble bringing the ball up and then hitting a nice bounce pass off the dribble to a cutting player and I'm like hmmmmm, what do we have here.... He is one of the few humans on earth who is as agile, tall and athletic as he is......
I’ve also seen Sarr pull down a defensive rebound, rapidly dribble from end-to-end, and finish at the rim with a soft touch. Not many 7 footers can do that...especially at 19 yrs old.
The kid’s potential is kinda obvious.
tontoz wrote:DCZards wrote:TheBlackCzar wrote:As far as Sarr is concerned it's pretty obvious him being a skinny teenager is having an affect on his shooting, rebounding and defense.... But to sit here and watch him guard Halliburton multiple times and forcing Tyrese to stay on the perimeter because he couldn't get by young Boy, I'm like are you not seeing the vision....
I've seen Sarr cross over dudes, behind the back dribble bringing the ball up and then hitting a nice bounce pass off the dribble to a cutting player and I'm like hmmmmm, what do we have here.... He is one of the few humans on earth who is as agile, tall and athletic as he is......
I’ve also seen Sarr pull down a defensive rebound, rapidly dribble from end-to-end, and finish at the rim with a soft touch. Not many 7 footers can do that...especially at 19 yrs old.
The kid’s potential is kinda obvious.
So are his shortcomings. If he can't guard opposing bigs it wont matter how well he guards Haliburton, who is off to a really rough start this season.
TheBlackCzar wrote:
what do halliburton having a rough start got to do with the mans foot speed and agility... wtf are you even talking about....
tontoz wrote:Meanwhile the bigs that Sarr has been defending definitely aren't struggling against him.
DCZards wrote:tontoz wrote:Meanwhile the bigs that Sarr has been defending definitely aren't struggling against him.
Sarr has struggled against 3 bigs…Sengun, Jackson III and Wemby. All of them are all-star level talent and the last two did most of their damage from the perimeter.
In the last 3 games, Towns had 24pts, which is 2pts below his average; Queta (Boston) had 7pts; and Turner had 10pts last night, which is 6pts below his average.
Not saying that Sarr doesn’t have to get much better defensively…but his problem guarding bigs are not as bad as you make it out to be.
Plus the way NBA offenses and defenses are today, it’s often difficult to know for sure who’s guarding who.

Fans build heroes, but they love them on a what have you done for me lately basis. It's performance based only. Almost every player who ascends but who has his performance fall off has sustained an injury.Dat2U wrote:I tell you, DC is the only fan base that goes out of their way to hate on their young talent. It's not just Alex, I'm watching Jayden Daniels getting BBQ'd on X now. I remember all the random hate RG3 got when he put his body & career on the line for Skins. We trashed Wall & Beal until they became young all-stars, then continued to trash 'em thereafter. It's a built-in defense mechanism where we can't acknowledge any success or growth because we're so trained to brace for eventual failure.
Based on what he did in college (which was pretty incredible over time) and how he dominated summer league, I'm quite confident that Reed Sheppard will be a useful role player.tontoz wrote:Dat2U wrote:
Man, if only we had drafted Reed Sheppard.
In other words you cant defend Sarr's ineptitude so you have to change the subject. Sarr's inefficiency isnt something new. It was a national joke in summer league. I don't even pay attention to summer league but i couldn't help but hear about his brick fest.
There isn't a center in the NBA with a worse TS than Sarr. There are only 4 pfs that are worse and none of them play 20 minutes a game. It is a problem no matter how often you guys make excuses for him.
Teenagers getting drafted isn't a new thing. Sarr isn't even the youngest guy on this team.
Taking 15 shots and 4 foul shots to score 17 points isnt "great". Gleague Brown scored 15 in 12 minutes lol. I wonder why.
They were never going to draft Sheppard due to his size. That was obvious to most of us before the draft.