Otto Porter Part 2

[nate33]

Porter seems pretty banged up. He only played 12 minutes in the Houston game and they had him riding the bicycle, trying to stay loose during the third quarter. Buckhantz said that his back was actually a bigger problem right now than his hip flexor injury.

I think Porter should shut it down until after the All-Star break. He'll miss 6 games (including two guaranteed losses @OKC and vsGSW) and he'll end up with 3 full weeks of rest.

Of course, with the season in the balance right now and the team deciding whether to go all in at the Trade Deadline or to tank for 2016, they probably want to see how things look with Porter playing over the next 6 games.

[closg00]

Porter seems pretty banged up. He only played 12 minutes in the Houston game and they had him riding the bicycle, trying to stay loose during the third quarter. Buckhantz said that his back was actually a bigger problem right now than his hip flexor injury.

I think Porter should shut it down until after the All-Star break. He'll miss 6 games (including two guaranteed losses @OKC and vsGSW) and he'll end up with 3 full weeks of rest.

Of course, with the season in the balance right now and the team deciding whether to go all in at the Trade Deadline or to tank for 2016, they probably want to see how things look with Porter playing over the next 6 games.

It's kind of annoying that we signed JE for the remainder of the season instead of exploring other guys (Earl Clark?) for 10-day contracts. Randy would play Earl Clark at the 4 for spot minutes. There must be some other guys as-well.

[dckingsfan]

I think some people got their expectations up too high after the playoffs. The playoffs are a small sample size of games.

This is his first season playing big minutes so it shouldnt be a surprise when he struggles. I would expect him to do better during the 2nd half of the season.

Plus, if you look at year over year - he has shown solid improvement. Shows me that he is a hard worker, has good basketball IQ and is able to listen to his coaches. And doing it while banged up.

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Season    Age   PER   TS%     DRB%   TRB%   AST%   STL%   TOV%    WS/48   VORP
2013-14   20    6.0   0.405   13.3   10.4    4.6   1.3    12.7   -0.006   -0.4
2014-15   21   11.6   0.523   11.6    8.7    6.8   1.6    10.9    0.092    0.6
2015-16   22   14.9   0.546   15.7   10.1   10.0   2.5     9.0    0.103    1.0


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I hope Porter does well with increased time at the 4. But you know we're dealing with a thin position when *Otto Porter* has the biggest "aggressive streak" of the bunch.

[nate33]

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I hope Porter does well with increased time at the 4. But you know we're dealing with a thin position when *Otto Porter* has the biggest "aggressive streak" of the bunch.

Hopefully, this is a sign that the Wizards intend to trade Dudley.




Note, I like Dudley. I just want the Wizards to cash in on him while his value is high. It's good for the Wizards in the long term, and it's good for Dudley if he is traded to a contender.

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Note, I like Dudley. I just want the Wizards to cash in on him while his value is high. It's good for the Wizards in the long term, and it's good for Dudley if he is traded to a contender.

What *is* Dudley's value, anyway? If we're willing to write off the season (and we should), then I guess a couple of 2nd rounders is better than nothing. But we can't expect more than that, can we?

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I hope Porter does well with increased time at the 4. But you know we're dealing with a thin position when *Otto Porter* has the biggest "aggressive streak" of the bunch.

Hopefully, this is a sign that the Wizards intend to trade Dudley.

More time for Porter @ the 4 *should* also mean more time for Oubre at the 3. In theory.

In practice, more time for Porter @ the 4 might mean more Wall/Sessions/Neal lineups.

[nate33]

Note, I like Dudley. I just want the Wizards to cash in on him while his value is high. It's good for the Wizards in the long term, and it's good for Dudley if he is traded to a contender.

What *is* Dudley's value, anyway? If we're willing to write off the season (and we should), then I guess a couple of 2nd rounders is better than nothing. But we can't expect more than that, can we?

I think we might be able to get a heavily protected first rounder from a team like Cleveland or LAC. OKC might give us McGary and a 2nd (their 1st rounders are encumbered through 2019).

[Dark Faze]

I know Clevelands is the only name thats come up, but almost any team with playoff aspirations could be interested in a dudley

in particular--Boston has two extremely high 2nd round draft picks that I don't think they are itching to hold onto

I'd farm out Neal and Dudley to them for both picks if possible

[nate33]

I know Clevelands is the only name thats come up, but almost any team with playoff aspirations could be interested in a dudley

in particular--Boston has two extremely high 2nd round draft picks that I don't think they are itching to hold onto

I'd farm out Neal and Dudley to them for both picks if possible

Good point. And Boston is pretty weak at the forward position. They're deep with floor-bound big men and guards, but Crowder is their only true SF. Adding another 6'-7" 3&D player like Dudley could round out their roster nicely.

Unfortunately, I'm not so sure that Boston is really ready to make an "all in" trade on a 3-month rental like Dudley. They're playing well, but I don't think they seriously consider themselves title contenders. My guess is that Ainge has his eye on the big picture and would rather continue to consolidate assets in an attempt to go after a bigger fish like Griffin or Love.

[dckingsfan]

Why can't we leave Otto at the 3? One of the few decent picks that EG has made.
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[Dark Faze]

I know Clevelands is the only name thats come up, but almost any team with playoff aspirations could be interested in a dudley

in particular--Boston has two extremely high 2nd round draft picks that I don't think they are itching to hold onto

I'd farm out Neal and Dudley to them for both picks if possible

Good point. And Boston is pretty weak at the forward position. They're deep with floor-bound big men and guards, but Crowder is their only true SF. Adding another 6'-7" 3&D player like Dudley could round out their roster nicely.

Unfortunately, I'm not so sure that Boston is really ready to make an "all in" trade on a 3-month rental like Dudley. They're playing well, but I don't think they seriously consider themselves title contenders. My guess is that Ainge has his eye on the big picture and would rather continue to consolidate assets in an attempt to go after a bigger fish like Griffin or Love.

yea--but they have a limited amount of roster spots too--three first rounders + 2 second round picks isn't realistic

i'd imagine they'll package one or two of those firsts for another player but my point still holds--and they can't reasonably expect to get young talent or value for 2nd rounders

so its either draft and stash or bolster your playoff run prospects---which might lead to a better chance at a nice free agent signing

idk

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Note, I like Dudley. I just want the Wizards to cash in on him while his value is high. It's good for the Wizards in the long term, and it's good for Dudley if he is traded to a contender.

What *is* Dudley's value, anyway? If we're willing to write off the season (and we should), then I guess a couple of 2nd rounders is better than nothing. But we can't expect more than that, can we?

I think we might be able to get a heavily protected first rounder from a team like Cleveland or LAC. OKC might give us McGary and a 2nd (their 1st rounders are encumbered through 2019).

Well, I'd jump at any of those offers! And if we traded Dudley for even a late R1 pick, you'd have to give Ernie kudos -- he'd have paid Dudley about $3m for both his play and to acquire a R1 pick.

That said... I doubt it's happening.

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I know Clevelands is the only name thats come up, but almost any team with playoff aspirations could be interested in a dudley

in particular--Boston has two extremely high 2nd round draft picks that I don't think they are itching to hold onto

I'd farm out Neal and Dudley to them for both picks if possible

Good point. And Boston is pretty weak at the forward position. They're deep with floor-bound big men and guards, but Crowder is their only true SF. Adding another 6'-7" 3&D player like Dudley could round out their roster nicely.

Unfortunately, I'm not so sure that Boston is really ready to make an "all in" trade on a 3-month rental like Dudley. They're playing well, but I don't think they seriously consider themselves title contenders. My guess is that Ainge has his eye on the big picture and would rather continue to consolidate assets in an attempt to go after a bigger fish like Griffin or Love.

Isn't it nice when you have *assets* to consolidate? Ainge has really grown as a GM over the years.

It's just barely possible that Ainge doesn't plan to give Zeller a qualifying offer. In that case, he might trade him to us for Dudley? I'd certainly do that deal. But I don't think Ernie would.

[Ruzious]

I know Clevelands is the only name thats come up, but almost any team with playoff aspirations could be interested in a dudley

in particular--Boston has two extremely high 2nd round draft picks that I don't think they are itching to hold onto

I'd farm out Neal and Dudley to them for both picks if possible

Good point. And Boston is pretty weak at the forward position. They're deep with floor-bound big men and guards, but Crowder is their only true SF. Adding another 6'-7" 3&D player like Dudley could round out their roster nicely.

Unfortunately, I'm not so sure that Boston is really ready to make an "all in" trade on a 3-month rental like Dudley. They're playing well, but I don't think they seriously consider themselves title contenders. My guess is that Ainge has his eye on the big picture and would rather continue to consolidate assets in an attempt to go after a bigger fish like Griffin or Love.

Isn't it nice when you have *assets* to consolidate? Ainge has really grown as a GM over the years.

It's just barely possible that Ainge doesn't plan to give Zeller a qualifying offer. In that case, he might trade him to us for Dudley? I'd certainly do that deal. But I don't think Ernie would.

Yeah, while I scratched my head over his Rozier and Hunter picks last draft, he's done a nice job with that roster and I expect will make good moves when the opportunities arise. But no, I don't think Ainge would trade Zeller for Duds.

[deneem4]

Otto porder is a 4...I've been saying it for a long time...he honestly have a 4 mentality and while he has a 3 body weight wise...he closer to a 4 length wise

[benb331]

Is Otto Porter a top 10 SF?

I think he's the most underrated Wizard, among the most underrated NBA players currently. His contributions across the traditional and advanced stat lines are impressive. For our eye-test acolytes, the guy is always in the right place at the right time. Given his age, I would rank Otto as our #2 asset behind John Wall.

Otto Porter is a top 10 SF. Thoughts?

[AFM]

Is Otto Porter a top 10 SF?

I think he's the most underrated Wizard, among the most underrated NBA players currently. His contributions across the traditional and advanced stat lines are impressive. For our eye-test acolytes, the guy is always in the right place at the right time. Given his age, I would rank Otto as our #2 asset behind John Wall.

Otto Porter is a top 10 SF. Thoughts?

Nivek posted a few days ago that he ranks as the 7th best SF "in his stuff"

[benb331]

Is Otto Porter a top 10 SF?

I think he's the most underrated Wizard, among the most underrated NBA players currently. His contributions across the traditional and advanced stat lines are impressive. For our eye-test acolytes, the guy is always in the right place at the right time. Given his age, I would rank Otto as our #2 asset behind John Wall.

Otto Porter is a top 10 SF. Thoughts?

Nivek posted a few days ago that he ranks as the 7th best SF "in his stuff"

Full disclaimer: I did see that. Otherwise, I might not've been so bold to pronounce Otto as top 10. But man, that kid can play. Clutch too.

[Kanyewest]

Is Otto Porter a top 10 SF?

I think he's the most underrated Wizard, among the most underrated NBA players currently. His contributions across the traditional and advanced stat lines are impressive. For our eye-test acolytes, the guy is always in the right place at the right time. Given his age, I would rank Otto as our #2 asset behind John Wall.

Otto Porter is a top 10 SF. Thoughts?

I would lean towards no although I love the way Otto is playing right now. Here are the small forwards I would say are better although you could convince me that Porter is better than Barnes.

Jae Crowder
Batum
LeBron
Paul George
Kevin Durant
Harrison Barnes
Andre Iguodala
Trevor Ariza
Andrew Wiggins
Carmelo Anthony
Kevin Durant
Kawai Leonard
Gordon Hayward