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Put it on your calendar!
Wednesday 2/26 9pm
Maryland vs Minnesota
Daniel Oturu vs Stick Smith
Should be a good one !!
Wednesday 2/26 9pm
Maryland vs Minnesota
Daniel Oturu vs Stick Smith
Should be a good one !!
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Shoe wrote:
I could see Gonzaga winning the NCAA tournament this year because they're a rare college team that seems to play good team basketball on a consistent basis. Not that I watch a ton of college basketball, but I don't trust any other team to play 6 straight good games. Even though they're not particularly explosive athletically up front, they have an excellent front court. But I think their best long-term prospect is Ayayi - the 6'5 combo guard - especially if he gets more confidence in his 3 point shot - though he's had a bunch of meh games lately.
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I know this is blasphemy, but just reading this profile what comes to my mind is young Michael Jordan....
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Cassius Stanley
SG - HT: 6-6 - WT: 193
An elite level athlete with big upside, who can jump through the roof.
Pros
A beast of an athlete. Stanley can fly out of the gym and has a ton of power. He could go down as one of the best dunkers of all time. His burst and insane bounce are unmatched (this side of Zion).
Has all the tools to develop into a complete player and is putting in work to round out his game. Is becoming a more disciplined defender and his athletic ability gives him a clear advantage over most opponents.
Sees the floor well and has a great feel for one-hand passes off the dribble. Uses his quickness to get into the lane and draw defenders, then finds the open man. Has much improved handles.
Has nice elevation and form on his shot. Can hit all sorts of turnaround and step-back jumpers, using his elite athletic ability to get room, or just rise over opponents.
Plays to win. Has good competitive fire and seems to have a drive to be one of the greats.
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Cassius Stanley
SG - HT: 6-6 - WT: 193
An elite level athlete with big upside, who can jump through the roof.
Pros
A beast of an athlete. Stanley can fly out of the gym and has a ton of power. He could go down as one of the best dunkers of all time. His burst and insane bounce are unmatched (this side of Zion).
Has all the tools to develop into a complete player and is putting in work to round out his game. Is becoming a more disciplined defender and his athletic ability gives him a clear advantage over most opponents.
Sees the floor well and has a great feel for one-hand passes off the dribble. Uses his quickness to get into the lane and draw defenders, then finds the open man. Has much improved handles.
Has nice elevation and form on his shot. Can hit all sorts of turnaround and step-back jumpers, using his elite athletic ability to get room, or just rise over opponents.
Plays to win. Has good competitive fire and seems to have a drive to be one of the greats.
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Here's an old interview of Oturu coming out of high school...
Just such a great kid, thoughtful, funny, humble yet confident, great charisma.
Just such a great kid, thoughtful, funny, humble yet confident, great charisma.
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I like oturu a lot of we intend to move on from Bryant ! I'm all in.
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SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Here's an old interview of Oturu coming out of high school...
Just such a great kid, thoughtful, funny, humble yet confident, great charisma.
Good to hear that he loves passing and puts the team ahead of himself, but there's a lot of work to do, since he averages 1.2 assists per game vs 2.9 to's. It'll be interesting to see if he gets picked before Okongwu. Oturu seems like a more high energy player and more of a vocal leader, but I like Okongwu's potential more. I need to see more of both of them. Oturu's a little taller, but I think Okongwu's more agile and more versatile defensively - with the ability to play some 4.
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Ruzious wrote:SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Here's an old interview of Oturu coming out of high school...
Just such a great kid, thoughtful, funny, humble yet confident, great charisma.
Good to hear that he loves passing and puts the team ahead of himself, but there's a lot of work to do, since he averages 1.2 assists per game vs 2.9 to's. It'll be interesting to see if he gets picked before Okongwu. Oturu seems like a more high energy player and more of a vocal leader, but I like Okongwu's potential more. I need to see more of both of them. Oturu's a little taller, but I think Okongwu's more agile and more versatile defensively - with the ability to play some 4.
Hey Ruz no Wizards tonight but good one on ESPN2 9:00 USC vs Washington can see Okwongu go up against Isaiah Stewart !
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SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Ruzious wrote:SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Here's an old interview of Oturu coming out of high school...
Just such a great kid, thoughtful, funny, humble yet confident, great charisma.
Good to hear that he loves passing and puts the team ahead of himself, but there's a lot of work to do, since he averages 1.2 assists per game vs 2.9 to's. It'll be interesting to see if he gets picked before Okongwu. Oturu seems like a more high energy player and more of a vocal leader, but I like Okongwu's potential more. I need to see more of both of them. Oturu's a little taller, but I think Okongwu's more agile and more versatile defensively - with the ability to play some 4.
Hey Ruz no Wizards tonight but good one on ESPN2 9:00 USC vs Washington can see Okwongu go up against Isaiah Stewart !
Cool. Hopefully Okongwu's back - he's been in concussion protocol.
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Another player I'd be very happy with as our pick is Josh Green. Super athleticism and toughness (grew up playing rugby in Australia), team oriented, good passer. One of the best wing defenders in the country, has length, really brings it on the defensive end, and goes for 50/50 balls with intensity. Excels in uptempo situations, transition, cutting to the basket. Developing jump shot, improving offensive game has upside. Side note, apparently he's best friends with Ben Simmons.
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Josh Green SG - HT: 6-6 - WT: 201 - WING: 6-10 1/4 - FROM: Arizona (Australia) - Fr.
An athletic 2-guard who can do it all. Scores from 3 levels, has a lot of bounce, great length and plays both ends of the floor.
Overview
Green is a powerful 2 guard who plays a complete game. The Australian native is making a name for himself in the American high school hoops circuit and has looked the part of a future NBA player.
Strengths
Versatility on both ends of the floor
Green can guard multiple positions thanks to his good combination of size, strength and foot-speed
On offense he can do a little bit of everything, from running the point to scoring in the lane
Has a solid build and a lot of natural strength
Has ideal size for the shooting guard position and has great length for size (plus 5 wingspan)
A high end athlete who is a blur in the open court
Can rip and run, taking the defensive rebound coast to coast
Is excellent from mid range and developing a consistent 3 point shot
Can get his own shot and has a sweet pull-up jimmy off the dribble
Has excellent court vision and is a willing passer who makes the right basketball play
Weaknesses
Needs to develop his left hand dribble and scoring touch
Has a bit of wind-up in his shot and doesn't have ideal shooting form
Is not the most creative ball handler and needs to develop his dribble-drive game
Comparison
Josh Richardson
From Bleacher Report:
Green's athleticism, energy and defense will allow teams to remain patient with his skill development. He's still flashed promise offensively, however, demonstrating enough shooting potential, passing IQ, slashing and floater touch.
SBNATION
The freshman forward from Australia has been an impressive on-ball defender and capable attacker off straight line drives at Arizona. While his scoring efficiency (53.8 percent true shooting) and three-point stroke (31.7 percent) need work, he has a big 3.1 percent steal rate and has made 79 percent of his free throws. A team will hope he can develop into legitimate 3-and-D wing down the line.
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Josh Green SG - HT: 6-6 - WT: 201 - WING: 6-10 1/4 - FROM: Arizona (Australia) - Fr.
An athletic 2-guard who can do it all. Scores from 3 levels, has a lot of bounce, great length and plays both ends of the floor.
Overview
Green is a powerful 2 guard who plays a complete game. The Australian native is making a name for himself in the American high school hoops circuit and has looked the part of a future NBA player.
Strengths
Versatility on both ends of the floor
Green can guard multiple positions thanks to his good combination of size, strength and foot-speed
On offense he can do a little bit of everything, from running the point to scoring in the lane
Has a solid build and a lot of natural strength
Has ideal size for the shooting guard position and has great length for size (plus 5 wingspan)
A high end athlete who is a blur in the open court
Can rip and run, taking the defensive rebound coast to coast
Is excellent from mid range and developing a consistent 3 point shot
Can get his own shot and has a sweet pull-up jimmy off the dribble
Has excellent court vision and is a willing passer who makes the right basketball play
Weaknesses
Needs to develop his left hand dribble and scoring touch
Has a bit of wind-up in his shot and doesn't have ideal shooting form
Is not the most creative ball handler and needs to develop his dribble-drive game
Comparison
Josh Richardson
From Bleacher Report:
Green's athleticism, energy and defense will allow teams to remain patient with his skill development. He's still flashed promise offensively, however, demonstrating enough shooting potential, passing IQ, slashing and floater touch.
SBNATION
The freshman forward from Australia has been an impressive on-ball defender and capable attacker off straight line drives at Arizona. While his scoring efficiency (53.8 percent true shooting) and three-point stroke (31.7 percent) need work, he has a big 3.1 percent steal rate and has made 79 percent of his free throws. A team will hope he can develop into legitimate 3-and-D wing down the line.
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Ruzious wrote:SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Here's an old interview of Oturu coming out of high school...
Just such a great kid, thoughtful, funny, humble yet confident, great charisma.
Good to hear that he loves passing and puts the team ahead of himself, but there's a lot of work to do, since he averages 1.2 assists per game vs 2.9 to's. It'll be interesting to see if he gets picked before Okongwu. Oturu seems like a more high energy player and more of a vocal leader, but I like Okongwu's potential more. I need to see more of both of them. Oturu's a little taller, but I think Okongwu's more agile and more versatile defensively - with the ability to play some 4.
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2020 NBA Mock Draft Update
Update 1/13/20
Another breakout sophomore is Minnesota big man Daniel Oturu who is rocketing up draft boards thanks to his dominant play. At first glance he doesn’t fit the mold of a modern NBA big man but he’s started to show flashes of a face-up game and outside shooting ability. He’s a workhorse on the low block who catches the ball well, shows good patience and can finish around the rim. He’s a good pick and dive player who will continue to develop his ability to pick and pop. Oturu is looking the part of a mid to late first round pick.
Onyeka Okongwu has moved steadily up draft boards over the course of the season but the hype may have gotten a bit out of hand. He's an impressive prospect with a powerful build and quick twitch athleticism but he's got a ways to go as far as expanding his offensive game and developing into a modern big. He's able to overpower defenders at the college level but will have to make some adjustments against NBA size. We've long compared him to Tristan Thompson, which is a fine talent level to be drafting late lottery, but given the longer development curve of centers, is it really worth passing on a more NBA-ready guard or wing? Okongwu is a first round lock but talk of him going top 5 is a bit much.
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I hadn't heard anyone talk about Okongwu as a top 5 pick, but now that the writer mentions it, are there more than a couple of prospects in this draft that would ordinarily be called top 5 worth? I don't think so. I think people are really underrating Okongwu's offensive ability. He's not just an explosive athlete, he makes 74% of his FT's - and that's a good indication that he can develop into a good perimeter shooter. And he's got great instincts on defense. The thing that bothers me a bit on him is that he gets lazy when he's tired. He's got to grow up a little on that, but he just turned 19 in December, so that's something that can come with maturity.
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I think my dream scenario would be to figure out a way to come out of this draft with Green, Oturu, and Tillie.
Could it be done with a swap with Boston 9 & 38 for 17, 27 & 29 ??

Could it be done with a swap with Boston 9 & 38 for 17, 27 & 29 ??

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:My very cursory look at the upcoming draft:
Tyler Bey and Obi Toppin are both a little older, will be 22 draft time.
PG - Tyrese Halliburton
SG - Devin Vassell
SF/PF - Paul Reed
PF - Oyeka Okongwu *Homer vote to Jalen Smith
C James Wiseman *Daniel Oturu is also a good choice
RIGHT NOW, I'd say Okongwu looks like an absolute stud defender and that's who the Wizards should be targeting.
Devin Vassell seems like the type of player who will excel defensively at the next level.
I'll be happy with Sticks from the Terps, because I THINK he's going to be able to play SF.
Speaking of Vassell, in that Duke/FSU game, FSU had a freshman PF by the name of Patrick Williams come off the bench - an athletic 6'9 230ish classic looking PF. He was sloppy - just like you'd expect for an 18 year old freshman playing against Duke - and he's nowhere near ready to play in the NBA, but the talent level for that kid was obvious. Hopefully he stays in school, because he's got lottery type potential but there's a reason he comes off the bench now.
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DRAFT ROOM had Tyler Bey a mid 2nd rounder and he's jumped all the way up to 25.
Mannion was top 10 has fallen to 22...
Mannion was top 10 has fallen to 22...
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Ruzious wrote:I hadn't heard anyone talk about Okongwu as a top 5 pick, but now that the writer mentions it, are there more than a couple of prospects in this draft that would ordinarily be called top 5 worth? I don't think so. I think people are really underrating Okongwu's offensive ability. He's not just an explosive athlete, he makes 74% of his FT's - and that's a good indication that he can develop into a good perimeter shooter. And he's got great instincts on defense. The thing that bothers me a bit on him is that he gets lazy when he's tired. He's got to grow up a little on that, but he just turned 19 in December, so that's something that can come with maturity.
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That's incredibly optimistic that oturu will last till pick 17. He's the clear second best center in the draft and I can't see him making it out of the loto. Now this is a wing and guard heavy draft with a few really nice PF. But idk if he makes it past 15 that's risky
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SUPERBALLMAN wrote:I think my dream scenario would be to figure out a way to come out of this draft with Green, Oturu, and Tillie.
Could it be done with a swap with Boston 9 & 38 for 17, 27 & 29 ??
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Here's a fun video of Okongwu' Chino Hills team against a Spartanburg Day team led by... Zion Williams. It's a highlight of Okongwu's 35 points and 14 boards. You can see how he has a feel for where the ball's going.
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Ruzious wrote:SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Ruzious wrote:Good to hear that he loves passing and puts the team ahead of himself, but there's a lot of work to do, since he averages 1.2 assists per game vs 2.9 to's. It'll be interesting to see if he gets picked before Okongwu. Oturu seems like a more high energy player and more of a vocal leader, but I like Okongwu's potential more. I need to see more of both of them. Oturu's a little taller, but I think Okongwu's more agile and more versatile defensively - with the ability to play some 4.
Hey Ruz no Wizards tonight but good one on ESPN2 9:00 USC vs Washington can see Okwongu go up against Isaiah Stewart !
Cool. Hopefully Okongwu's back - he's been in concussion protocol.
Sucks Okwongu is out... Strangely 2 local guys are calling the game too, Adrian Branch and Dave Feldman.
Colorado vs Oregon on ESPN is pretty good... also Caps playing Colorado, Ovechkin going for 700!
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gambitx777 wrote:That's incredibly optimistic that oturu will last till pick 17. He's the clear second best center in the draft and I can't see him making it out of the loto. Now this is a wing and guard heavy draft with a few really nice PF. But idk if he makes it past 15 that's riskySUPERBALLMAN wrote:I think my dream scenario would be to figure out a way to come out of this draft with Green, Oturu, and Tillie.
Could it be done with a swap with Boston 9 & 38 for 17, 27 & 29 ??
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I know it's wishful thinking... Not very realistic. I suspect Oturu and Green will both be gone by 17.
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