2025 Draft Thread - Part 3

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At this point, just stay at 6 if you want Bailey. Hard to see Charlotte or Utah taking him whenever he won’t even come in for a workout/engage with them. Calling Philly’s bluff, they don’t want Bailey.

Not really a big enough gap between Kneuppel/Johnson/Jakucionis and Edgecombe to warrant giving up 6&18 to move up to 3.

If Philly would take Kispert+6 for 3, I’d do it.

One of Essengue, CMB, Traore, Richardson is going to be sitting there at 18. If anything, we should be looking into trading down.

It would be amazing if Brooklyn traded #8 and #19 for #6 and #40 to draft Fears, and we still landed Ace at #8.

I don't think they'd have to give that much to get us interested. 26 would do.

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How about Traore at 18?

I would say YES if he is still there, this group will be held-back in their development w/o a real PG, we then take the best Center to fall to us at 40.

[NatP4]

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How about Traore at 18?

I would say YES if he is still there, this group will be held-back in their development w/o a real PG, we then take the best Center to fall to us at 40.

I’d go Richardson at 18 personally. Traore is probably the higher upside swing, but he’s also very ball dominant and doesn’t really play off the ball/cut at all. Very similar to John Wall as a player.

Doesn’t really seem like the type of team they are building. Richardson can play on or off the ball and be a secondary playmaker/provide spacing.

(Also noteworthy that Richardson still doesn’t have a green room invite, he’s most likely going to be there at 18, requires no trade up).

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How about Traore at 18?

I would say YES if he is still there, this group will be held-back in their development w/o a real PG, we then take the best Center to fall to us at 40.

I’d go Richardson at 18 personally. Traore is probably the higher upside swing, but he’s also very ball dominant and doesn’t really play off the ball/cut at all. Very similar to John Wall as a player.

Doesn’t really seem like the type of team they are building. Richardson can play on or off the ball and be a secondary playmaker/provide spacing.

(Also noteworthy that Richardson still doesn’t have a green room invite, he’s most likely going to be there at 18, requires no trade up).

I considered combos Jase and WCJR, but Jase’s inability to go right is disqualifying IMO, WCJR is more versatile, but he again is more of a scoring guard who may be able to make it as a PG, he is tempting to take because he (like Nique) has a winners pedigree, that is something that doesn’t show-up on any stat sheet.

[tontoz]

Is anyone concerned on the why he's dropping though?

No. Ace doesn't want to play for the teams in front of us. I don't blame him. This is no different than Sarr did last year.

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[NatP4]

I considered combos Jase and WCJR, but Jase’s inability to go right is disqualifying IMO, WCJR is more versatile, but he again is more of a scoring guard who may be able to make it as a PG, he is tempting to take because he (like Nique) have a winners pedigree, that is something that doesn’t show-up on any stat sheet.

Can’t argue with that. I am still fairly concerned with Jase’s lack of size and ability to hold up against switches on defense. Traore has really good size for a PG with a 6’8 wingspan, and 8’6 standing reach.

How crazy would it be to land two guys in Bailey and Traore (without any trade ups) that were projected to be top 5 picks in the preseason.

[closg00]

Is anyone concerned on the why he's dropping though?

No. Ace doesn't want to play for the teams in front of us. I don't blame him. This is no different than Sarr did last year.

I was concerned too and did a quick search on him, what his attitude is like, his work ethic etc, he’s just immature and full of confidence in himself, nothing bad.

If you’re Ace, he knows he is likely to get PT right-away with the Wiz, and play in real NBA games, that won’t be the case in Philly at-least.

[DCZards]

PG? Y’all still sleeping on Bub. But I’ll let his future play speak for him.

[80sballboy]

Watching drafts since the early 80s, we've seen this crap about Ace Bailey and others, either not working out for teams or some dude having some issue with a knee injury in 6th grade. I'm not saying it's not true, but you never know with this stuff before the draft.

After saying that, despite his supposed issues, I'd take him in a heartbeat at 6.

[dckingsfan]

Is anyone concerned on the why he's dropping though?

No. Ace doesn't want to play for the teams in front of us. I don't blame him. This is no different than Sarr did last year.

I was concerned too and did a quick search on him, what his attitude is like, his work ethic etc, he’s just immature and full of confidence in himself, nothing bad.

If you’re Ace, he knows he is likely to get PT right-away with the Wiz, and play in real NBA games, that won’t be the case in Philly at-least.

I guess, as Nate puts it, he has an extremely high upside. I am wondering if he also thinks he could mesh well with Sarr.

On the defensive side, he seems to be a decent rebounder (not elite) but also a decent rim protector. Not sure if he is a banger... two finesse FC players would be "interesting".

On the offensive side of the ball - since both "project" to be good 3 point shooters, it would open up the court?

It is also interesting down draft. We can take a PG and C at 18 & 40.

[willbcocks]

If Ace Bailey falls to us after refusing to workout for other teams....what a turnaround that would mean for our franchise image, especially with Sarr last year.

Ace looks like he lives and breathes basketball, a little bit of the Durant vibe in that way. Thats an attitude problem I can live with.

[NatP4]

PG? Y’all still sleeping on Bub. But I’ll let his future play speak for him.

Carrington is better off the ball as a secondary playmaker. Has the size to defend 2s. That’s when he took off at Pitt, whenever they inserted a pure PG into the starting 5.

Gives them flexibility to go after almost any kind of guard. I’m dreaming about this:

Richardson/Traore
Carrington
Coulibaly George
Bailey
Sarr

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Matt Moore of the Action Network suggests that if Philadelphia opts for Edgecombe, the likelihood of Charlotte trading back from the fourth pick increases dramatically. This opens the door for a potential trade with the Washington Wizards, who are eager to secure a higher selection. Such a move could be beneficial for Charlotte, providing them with additional assets while still allowing them to target a player they covet.

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Fck!!!!!!!! Draft day needs to come, like, tomorrow!!!!!!!

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Knew about Fears, did not know they worked out Tre!

[closg00]

The intrigue is building. TBH, I like Fear’s personality > Bailey’s, haven’t seen too-many interviews with Johnson, my gut prefers Fears.

[80sballboy]

I think you can tell from his Rutgers' clips that Ace loves to shoot it even when guarded tightly. Better coaching with better players surrounding him would help solve that or he's a selfish MFer.

[tontoz]

I think you can tell from his Rutgers' clips that Ace loves to shoot it even when guarded tightly. Better coaching with better players surrounding him would help solve that or he's a selfish MFer.

His shot selection in games 10-20 was far better than his first 10 games. Early on he was taking a lot of crazy fadeaways and would get trapped trying to drive baseline all the time. Those episodes decreased a lot by midseason which makes me think he is coachable.

Also he struggled on open catch and shoot 3s similar to Bub which i am confident will get worked out over time. He shot better when contested.