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GT: Wizards @ Warriors, 2/11/08, 10:30 PM EST

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Post#461 » by Yi Jian Lian » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:32 am

Blame Eddie "Albino" Jordan.
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Post#462 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:33 am

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But that's EJ's problem. He wants to change the pace of the game, but doesn't realize that maybe the current pace is working and that it doesn't NEED to be changed.

What EJ did was play to Golden State's strengths. He does this ALL the time. He needs to be more proactive in his coaching.

Like someone else says, EJ doesn't play to win. He plays not to lose.


For years he's been a scared coach who always wants to match the other team's pace.

He NEVER coaches his size mismatch at the end. He NEVER says my guys are way bigger and I'll just have Haywood on the boards and go over the top.

Eddie is the dullest coach when it comes to Songaila over Haywood.

NO GOOD COACH goes to that well like EJ.

Eddie Smalls ... Gotta match their pace with his smalls... Doesn't call timeout when DeShawn and Nick are going one-on-one and ROGER FREAKING MASON CAN"T GET A SHOT AND BRENDAN ISN"T IN THE GAME ...

I had a headache today and the game started off so promising ...

Eddie Smalls ... my goodness.
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Post#463 » by hands11 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:34 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:This is not a loss because the team was shorthanded.

The coach sat Mason, Stevenson, and Haywood at critical periods and allowed shot jacking to save the day. Same CRAP he's done the past few season.

A good coach would have pounded it inside and stuck with Blatche and Haywood til both fouled out.

A good coach would NOT have brought Songaila back in. Geez, McGuire hit the lucky three and he'd have been a better bet than Darius.

Eddie really, really, really stunk tonight.


Exactly. What happened to the post game?
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Post#464 » by gowiz999 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:38 am

Another bad thing about this losing streak is that the Magic are playing like absolute **** too yet we aren't taking advantage. Van Gundy chewed out Dwight after the game tonight for being too soft and not defensive-minded enough. At this point we would be lucky to get the 8 spot. The Hawks are a game back and the **** terrible Nets are just a mere 2 games back.
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Post#465 » by floppymoose » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:41 am

FYI, the Warriors thread looks like a mirror image of this one. We're crucifying Nelson over there fro not playing Beidrins nearly enough. And here you are doing the same with Eddie/Haywood.

When both Haywood and Biedrins were out the game became the most amazing layup drill I've ever seen.
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Post#466 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:42 am

jimij wrote:Two people lost that game. Deshawn Stevenson and Eddie Jordan but at least DS was trying to win the game. Eddie frickin Jordan can only coach not to lose and always seems to almost try to give the game away with his ridiculous lineups. If it wasn't for the Big 3 continously bailing him out and the Wizards longtime futility he'd have been gone long ago.

The man can get a team ready to play like no ones business but my freaking cat could do a better job than him once the game starts.


Nope, I don't hold DeShawn responsible at all.

Eddie made sure shot jacking was all the Wizards could do when he had Songaila in the game. DeShawn just picked up where Nick left off.

Eddie runs ISO for Butler at the end of games.

In the past he ran ISO for Gil.

The Wizards NEVER get the ball inside at the end and they live and die by the jumper but that's not DeShawn's fault.

This loss is on Eddie Smalls.
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Post#467 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:44 am

Back-to-back 20 and 10 and the coach only plays him 30 mins and sits him on the bench.

No excuse for this.

Eddie got away with getting SWEPT BY CLEVELAND NOT PLAYING HAYWOOD MORE THAN 15 MINS TOTAL.

HOW DOES THIS INEPTIITUDE FLY?
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Post#468 » by gowiz999 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:46 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Back-to-back 20 and 10 and the coach only plays him 30 mins and sits him on the bench.

No excuse for this.

Eddie got away with getting SWEPT BY CLEVELAND NOT PLAYING HAYWOOD MORE THAN 15 MINS TOTAL.

HOW DOES THIS INEPTIITUDE FLY?

I can only cringe at the thought of Wood's minutes further decreasing once that worthless sloth Etan comes back. I just don't know what else Brendan has to do to convince Eddie that he deserves more minutes, especially in 4th quarters. :nonono:
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Post#469 » by WickedWizard » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:01 am

Do we have any hope?

Is there a small chance EG is thinking about firing EJ?

Come on. He watches the game. He's got to see what we all see. How can he put up with it and not do anything. It's BS. He's killing all the good moves EG has made...SAVE THE FRANCHISE! Fire EJ
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Post#470 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:04 am

One thing that could get EJ fired is that Gil is watching the games and he has to realize EJ's not that good a coach.
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Post#471 » by newslowsad » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:07 am

Guys like AD and Jamison deserve so much more than Eddie.
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Post#472 » by dunleavyjr » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:10 am

I don't understand Eddie Jordon. I really don't.

In the 4th quarter, Warriors were making uncontested layups after layups. Why was Haywood not in the game to protect the paint? Songaila? What the hell, he is nothing but a soft pussy. It's like a waste of space on the court.

Offensively, too many bad jumpers. Unless your name is Kobe Bryant, else don't even bother taking those shots.

Understand?
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Post#473 » by omegatronic3 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 7:40 am

I feel bad for Haywood. The past two games he's been awesome. To see a center of our hit free throws is so refreshing after years of brick chuckers. Unfortunately the efforts were wasted. We shouldnt even be in games with the lineup we have so cant complain too much. If Mason Jr doesnt have a career game were not even in it.

Young at this point if complete garbage. He has become the second coming of Arvis and EJ seems to love himjust as much. Just because a guy has a reputation as a scorer doesnt mean he is. I gues EJ is trying to get young to shoot himself out of a slump or something but he needs to pick his spots till hes consistent.
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Post#474 » by LyricalRico » Tue Feb 12, 2008 9:30 am

Benjammin wrote:EJ thinks small ball is "super smart" and shows what a good coach he is.


And that's the worst part of it all. Tonight, like so many games before, wasn't an honest mistake or a fluke. This was a calculated move by Eddie Jordan, in fact, his move of choice.

That's why I refused to call him a good coach until I saw how he treated a healthy Etan and how the offense ran with a healthy Arenas. Because I knew that EJ wasn't a blithering idiot who just didn't get it. If that were the case there would have been hope that he would learn to play Haywood.

But EJ doesn't suffer from a low IQ. Quite the contrary, he's fascinated with his own "genius" and continues to believe that he knows something that the entire world doesn't know. Everybody else believes that big men win games. Steve Kerr is willing to stake his entire NBA future on it. But EJ is out to prove the 7-footers may get you the lead in quarters 1-3, but 6-8 guys who have absolutely no NBA ability are the ones that get you the win.

I once wrote an article about EJ's similarities with one Steve Spurrier and I absolutely see it now more than ever. EJ would rather lose his way than win by doing what's tried and true. Why? Because doing it his way is the most important thing to him. And regardless of whether or not he wins or loses, he goes to bed assured that he's still right.

Sure he wants to win, but only if it proves his philosophies to be correct. Until now he's had superstars to bail him out and get him to the playoffs. But now that he has to actually coach his want to victory he continues to come up short (in more ways than one).
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Post#475 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 12:05 pm

Sad, I went to bed when we were 20 points up, but was not even slightly surprised to see that we had lost. The Eddie Jordan 4th quarter collapse is just as much his trademark as his inexplicable rotations.

Unfortunately, the circumstances make it difficult to fire EJ, specifically the injuries...that and his new contract. I am hoping that a miracle happens and we have a new coach to lead us after the allstar break.
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Post#476 » by MJG » Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:31 pm

closg00 wrote:Sad, I went to bed when we were 20 points up, but was not even slightly surprised to see that we had lost. The Eddie Jordan 4th quarter collapse is just as much his trademark as his inexplicable rotations.

Ditto. As asinine as it sounds, I actually went to bed at the half because I did not want to lose sleep in order to watch the inevitable second half collapse. That seems like a negative attitude to be sure, but lo and behold, I wake up this morning to see that we managed to lose the game. It's kind depressing that it not only isn't shocking to see it happen, but that I actually expect it so much that I was willing to cut off the game halfway though so I don't have to watch it happen.
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Post#477 » by newslowsad » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:04 pm

Unbelievable, can't believe how many people on Ivan's blog don't realize how bad Eddie was last night.
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Post#478 » by ZonkertheBrainless » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:42 pm

oops, there was a game yesterday? missed it.

looks like i didn't miss much...
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Post#479 » by nate33 » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:46 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:I also thought Eddie had turned the corner, alas. I think the other coaches (led by Ayers) need to stage an intervention. Let him know that he's hurting those around him, even though he can't see it. That he needs to PLAY HAYWOOD WHEN THE GAME IS ON THE LINE!

I'll keep saying it, because it's true - I don't care what Haywood has done through 3 quarters of any given game (and in this one, he was damn near perfect). Good things happen when he is on the floor in the 4th. Defensive stops. Offensive rebounds. Actually securing rebounds off of missed FTs. He should play at least 8 minutes of every 4th quarter. I cannot understand why this is so difficult to understand.

I agree.

I don't want to lose sight of the things EJ does well. He has done a marvelous job for most of this season maximizing his injury-depleted roster full of rookies and youngsters. Basically, we have a playoff-caliber team in street clothes right now and we're still competitive with the rest of the guys on the floor.

I want the good things that EJ brings. His offense, his motivation, his management of egos. I don't really want him fired. I just want somebody with in-game strategery skills to handle the last 4 minutes. EG needs to call a meeting with all the coaching staff and lay it out to EJ. For the good of the team, this mindless benching of Haywood has got to stop!
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Post#480 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:46 pm

I think this is a lost cause, nate.

Jordan's core belief IMO is in perimeter offense. He cannot tolerate more than 1 turnover or 1 bad foul by Brendan, but he can stomache several forced shots by Nick, DeShawn, and Antawn.

He seems blind to rebounding ratio, +/-, and the inefficacy of Darius Songaila.

To put Darius in and watch him not grab rebounds, watch him turn it over, watch layup after layup and leave him in after the timeout while having Haywood on the bench is just hard to fathom.

nate, Brendan's been with EJ the whole run. He's been a Wizard for 6 or 7 years. He's the most improved C in the league, including Kaman IMO. Yet, Eddie disregards the over 80% FT shooting and the great form on his midrange jumper and the jump hooks that are going in. EJ doesn't seem to care for easy dunks and putbacks.

nate, an intervention for EJ regarding Haywood's minutes is a lost cause.

Jordan CLEARLY DOESN'T LIKE HAYWOOD IF HE'D RATHER HAVE BLATCHE AND YOUNG ON THE COURT AT CRUNCH TIME.

Blatche has some slick moves with the ball and he can pass and block shots. However, he is MUCH WORSE DEFENSIVELY THAN HAYWOOD.

Young is a shotjacker who if he scores 20 at this point he's given up 18-26 points. He's creative and he can finish but when he's in the game you need Haywood for rebounds!

Eddie Jordan doesn't have a good feel at all for what he has on his team.

Haywood a is a damned good C but EJ prefers NOT TO USE HIM IF ANY OTHER OPTION SEEMS BETTER.

Blatche in at the end and Haywood on the bench is just not smart. Haywood's been in the NBA since Andray was in middle school.

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