Official Randy Wittman Thread - It's Playoff Randy Time LOL

[Rafael122]

Horrific coaching job tonight. Went with Seraphin and Gooden pairing which hasn't worked all year but continues to put it out there because Gooden is someone he's familiar with, as opposed to not knowing how Blair is going to play BECAUSE HE DOESN'T PLAY THE MAN.

On top of that, he decides to stick with his bench through the 6 minute mark of the 4th quarter. Coaches usually wait until after the official timeout in the 4th to start puttin ghis starters in yet he went with it for a few more minutes and we lost our lead. Just an awful brainfart, and he's so damn set in his ways that he won't learn from this, at all.

Stop riding the starters for the entire opening quarter. The starters should play until the 3 minute mark in the 1st, sub them out, put them back in around the 7-8 minute mark to finish off the half.

[hands11]

Well, he exceeded the mark set so no real surprise.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/23 ... th-Wizards

Congrats Mr Randy.

I wonder if it is really 3 full or 2 plus an option.

So Mr Randy is going to get a chance to repair that terrible W/L record and shake the label, worst winning record with over 500 games coached. Very shortly, he will leave that title to Wes Unseld.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/coa ... stats.html

Ranked 198 with 520 games .367 he is now only one slot below the best Wizards coach ever...
Wes Unseld 547 games .369 After next season, Wes will hold Randy's old title.

If Randy can lead them to a nice 50 win season, he will jump up a ton to from 198 to 176 range with 601 games at .400 putting him in John Lucas range who has 431 games at .401. But now he will have over 600 games coached. Will he have the worst record at that range... Nope..Tom Nissalke would be worse ranked at 187 with .388 in 639 games.

Now if he can do that back to back, then he can move past 165th Kevin Loughery 1136 games at .417 and jump up to the 161st with 684 games coached at .425

That would have him jumping 98 slots in two years. Man, its tough when you start in the hole with the record he had before this year.

Now if he can pull off 50 wins for 3 straight years .... Now he is up ranked 143th.. That right there with the likes of Paul Silas, Byron Scott, and Bernie Bickerstaff who all coached from 875 to 937 games at .444

Randy would have gone from 198th .367 in 2013/14 to 143th .445 in 2016/17

Congratulations to Randy.

He has officially left behind his old label of worst winning percentage of any coach with over 500 games.

He was 198 when the season ended. He has now moved up to 193 and left that old label behind and should continue to climb the ranks rapidity if they keep winning like this.

Next on the list with over 500 games to pass. Tom Nissalke

The old title in how in its rightful hands.

WES UNSELD. 547 coach .369 winning percentage. 7 straight years of hell as Abe's favorite right hand man. Coach. GM. Both. Wes could do it all.

[hands11]

http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos ... me-1-31-15"

Ok, what's with the snarky comment to the reporter asking him about line ups Randy.

It was a legit question.. Don't be such a douche.

http://www.popcornmachine.net/gf?date=2 ... ame=TORWAS"

The reported asked about

Wall, Doom, Otto, Hump, Nene ( 17-2 run )

Randy says, haven't you never seen that line up. Good question Randy. Have we ?
http://stats.nba.com/league/lineups/?ls ... TION&dir=1

Anyone with a better line up site, let us know.

The other line up that started this at the end of the 3rd was

Wall, Doom, Otto, Hump, Kev ( 5-0 run )

And for those busting on Gortat, he was never given a chance to produce in a line up not paired with Nene where Nene was given a chance with Hump. Had they went with Gooden/Gortat, I suspect Gortat would have produced better as well.

If Otto wasn't out there with the POS line up to start the 2nd quarter, his + numbers would have been awesome. Something like plus 11 in 11 mins.

Instead, we got this to start the 2nd.

Miller, Temple, Otto, Hump, Kevin
vs
Vasq, Lou Williams, Ross, Patterson, Hansbrough



Miller was -9 in 2:30 -12 in 3:30 Not only should Miller have never entered that game, pairing him with Temple ? Why not have Webser in that slot or go with Temple, Webster, Otto, Hump, Kev

2:30-3:30 minutes of total brain fart by Randy cost them 15 pts before the starters could stop the bleeding.

Sorry, but that is some terrible coaching right there.

The good news, we have a much better record then last year at this time and that Randy is an option for his 3rd year. That means if they want, they can buy him out after this season. Dray's 8.4M comes off the books this year. 9M over 3 years means eating one year is only 3M. That can easily get done.

If Randy can't figure out how to best use his roster to beat teams like ATL, PHX, TOR, GSW and all the other teams moving in that directions, dude needs to be gone.

Tick Tick.. Randy. Clock is ticking.

[dckingsfan]

Wittman needs to stay until Checkers goes. Then let the new GM select his coach.

[hands11]

Wittman needs to stay until Checkers goes. Then let the new GM select his coach.

Well, Mr Checker like him or not has given Randy the best roster this team has had in over 25 years.

And has KD in his sights and in the headline news. And put together a team that Paul Peirce would select.

So I see those as somewhat separate issues.

Checkers has never had a team here this good to attract top NBA coaching talent. For the first time in forever, we should have pretty much the full selection of coaches available to pick from. And we would be in a position to pay market rates to get a good one instead of begging.

Lots of coaches would want to coach this team that Ted and Checkers put together.

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What's this "Checkers" thing? Or "Mr. Checker"?? Have these nicknames for Ernie surfaced in the past?

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http://www.monumentalnetwork.com/videos/randy-wittman-postgame-1-31-15" target="_blank"

Ok, what's with the snarky comment to the reporter asking him about line ups Randy.

It was a legit question.. Don't be such a douche.

http://www.popcornmachine.net/gf?date=2 ... ame=TORWAS" target="_blank"

The reported asked about

Wall, Doom, Otto, Hump, Nene ( 17-2 run )

Randy says, haven't you never seen that line up. Good question Randy. Have we ?
http://stats.nba.com/league/lineups/?ls ... TION&dir=1" target="_blank

Anyone with a better line up site, let us know.

The other line up that started this at the end of the 3rd was

Wall, Doom, Otto, Hump, Kev ( 5-0 run )

And for those busting on Gortat, he was never given a chance to produce in a line up not paired with Nene where Nene was given a chance with Hump. Had they went with Gooden/Gortat, I suspect Gortat would have produced better as well.

If Otto wasn't out there with the POS line up to start the 2nd quarter, his + numbers would have been awesome. Something like plus 11 in 11 mins.

Instead, we got this to start the 2nd.

Miller, Temple, Otto, Hump, Kevin
vs
Vasq, Lou Williams, Ross, Patterson, Hansbrough



Miller was -9 in 2:30 -12 in 3:30 Not only should Miller have never entered that game, pairing him with Temple ? Why not have Webser in that slot or go with Temple, Webster, Otto, Hump, Kev

2:30-3:30 minutes of total brain fart by Randy cost them 15 pts before the starters could stop the bleeding.

Sorry, but that is some terrible coaching right there.

The good news, we have a much better record then last year at this time and that Randy is an option for his 3rd year. That means if they want, they can buy him out after this season. Dray's 8.4M comes off the books this year. 9M over 3 years means eating one year is only 3M. That can easily get done.

If Randy can't figure out how to best use his roster to beat teams like ATL, PHX, TOR, GSW and all the other teams moving in that directions, dude needs to be gone.

Tick Tick.. Randy. Clock is ticking.

Randy's answer to the neophyte reporter ("yes, I'm here for the first time...") wasn't snarky in the slightest. He was playing w/ the guy, and then he proceeded to answer the question. And, if you *like* that unusual lineup, Hands, why doesn't Randy get coaching *credit* for it? I mean, if you *don't like* some other unusual lineup, you give him coaching demerits for it.

If Webster didn't play last night ("Why not have Webster...?"), maybe it has something to do w/ Webster himself? Guy is coming back from surgery, etc. Maybe he had some little setback reason to keep him out for a game?

If you look at my post in the game thread, it's obvious that none of this had anything to do w/ why we lost. We turned the ball over 22 times. Teams don't win a lot of games w/ that many turnovers -- and we *still* would have won had we not gone 1-4 on our first FTs.

I'm not arguing that Randy is a great NBA coach; there are very very few of those, very few who can be shown to make a positive difference at all. But whatever his deficiencies are, they didn't cause last night's loss. Horrible play by Gortat and Nene did.

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Nene and Gortat played a combined 62 minutes last night. In that time, they combined for 6 rebounds and 9 turnovers. They combined to go 6-15 from the floor and 6-10 from the FT line.

When that's what you get from your starting 4 and 5, you are very very unlikely to win -- especially not to beat a good team.

[hands11]

I disagree.

First, it was snarky. Randy is like that. Nothing new really. And besides, how often have we seen that line up ? I didn't see it in the line up numbers so regardless if the guy was new, he asked a dame good question. Maybe we need some more "neophyte" reporters pressing Randy about line ups.

I believe strongly that the line ups and offense is what is leading to the turnovers. So sure, turnovers are a problem. But we disagree on the root cause.

As for Gortat, I laid it out. He is a PnR player and he and Wall combined to be one of the best in the league at it. If you aren't using him that way, then that is your own damn fault.

Same goes for defending the 3. We did it better when we finally went to...

Wall, Temple, Otto, Hump, Nene and
Wall, Temple, Otto, Hump, Kevin

The answer is clear why that would be. You have three perimeter defenders and Hump at PF who can extend his coverage faster and deeper then Nene.

Your are describing the results as the issue. I'm describing the cause as the issue. And the cause is on the coach. He has the players to do better.

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We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, Hands. But not worth lighting a match under the disagreement -- lets just win the next game!

[TGW]

20/20 hindsight in this thread...sheesh.

[dckingsfan]

Checkers = EG playing while other GMs play Chess...

And yeah, if Wittman goes, so should Checkers... Checkers didn't get the right pieces, and as usual - folks blame the coach or the refs and not the GM.

But, I think both of them will play out their respective contracts - Wittman is here for the long run, just get used to it.

[montestewart]

As for Gortat, I laid it out. He is a PnR player and he and Wall combined to be one of the best in the league at it. If you aren't using him that way, then that is your own damn fault.

Didn't the numbers from last year show them to be one of the most prolific PnR teams but a bit below that in efficiency? Maybe I'm misunderremembering.

[montestewart]

As for Gortat, I laid it out. He is a PnR player and he and Wall combined to be one of the best in the league at it. If you aren't using him that way, then that is your own damn fault.

Didn't the numbers from last year show them to be one of the most prolific PnR teams but a bit below that in efficiency? Maybe I'm misunderremembering.

[hands11]

Mont

I did a quick look up and found an article.

Wall to Gortat was above league average in production per possession but along with that, they ran it way above league average.

So there were probably article saying it was most productive describing the amount of point it produced. It was successful no doubt. And like any big, Gortat plays an all around better game when he in being productive and involved in the offense. Well there are a few players that a pure defensive centers, Gortat isn't one of them.

For the Randy Offense if you want to call it that.
15 three balls for the offense last night. Below league average by 5 though they were 6-15 .400
I saw ONE PnR to Gortat. It was a baseline version which is odd, and it came way late in the game.

Gortat is not a post up player. If they wanted that, they should have traded for Al Jefferson while the window was open.

The offense sucked. Its so stagnant looking. What the hell happen to passing it around the rim for a 3.
And that peak a boo two man game with Beal is horrible. Good defensive teams jump all over that.
Did anyone see even one curl screen catch and shoot. I saw CHA do it a few times.

Personally, I think Beal is part of the problem at this point. He is producing decent number but he gave up as much as he produced and he doesn't catch and shoot enough and he can't generate an open shot off the dribble on the perimeter like most SGs. He needs more Webster in his game if he can't dribble. He was 5-10 from 3 the previous game and did plenty of catch and shoot. Last night against CHA. 2-4. That isn't enough. He needs to get up at least 6 three balls on a team that only shoots 15 of them a game.

And please separate Nene and Gortat. Its not working. I would rather see Gortat with the quicker 2nd unit with either Hump or Gooden. Let Kevin play with Nene. Or start Gortat and bring Nene off the bench and run Wall to Gortat PnRs again.

What happen to last year when we started the game with the Wall to Gortat PnR ?

Gotta say, been some pretty piss poor coaching.

Randy's offense is making scoring really tough on these guys. 99.9 is 6th in the East. Ampted up defense to generate offense is not an offensive strategy. It takes to much out of the players. And it to focused on Wall playing amazing D and keeping a high pace. And that is wearing Wall down. It's fine as part of a plan, but after that, you NEED A FREAKN OFFENSE that isn't from the 70s.

Randy is looking very Thibs. Stubborn, All defense and wearing down his best players. At least he finally subbed in Temple with the second unit. But his offense sucks and he still doesn't maximize his players by putting them in the best position to succeed. He has been horrible for Gortat this year and he doesn't utilize Gooden enough. And he should continue to get Webster some minutes though with Webster, at least the CD-DNPs have some longer term benefit right now.

[sashae]

Randy's offense lacks the two things that this team should be doing more than anything else -- driving to the basket (2nd to the last in the league on drives) and generating 3pt opportunities (4th lowest attempts/game at 16.0, less than half of league leader Houston's 33, 10 less than GSW's 26.5.) It is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE that he continues to try to generate inefficient shots when they have the personnel to actually be able to succeed in both areas.

His defensive coaching -- to his credit -- seems excellent. He's getting great effort from the team in that area. But the offense continues to stagnate, and when the 2nd unit plays with Miller on the floor, the pace stagnates as well. It's both a philosophical and a rotational problem, and it's going to lead to stale periods like now when Wall isn't feeling tip-top.

It's a shame that we're stuck with Wit, as the team'd clearly benefit from better coaching.) I'd give him a D- on offense, and probably a B+ on defense, and C/C- on rotations. Replace him with Budenholzer, SVG, Carlisle... you'd see a totally different squad.

[hands11]

Randy's offense lacks the two things that this team should be doing more than anything else -- driving to the basket (2nd to the last in the league on drives) and generating 3pt opportunities (4th lowest attempts/game at 16.0, less than half of league leader Houston's 33, 10 less than GSW's 26.5.) It is TOTALLY INEXPLICABLE that he continues to try to generate inefficient shots when they have the personnel to actually be able to succeed in both areas.

His defensive coaching -- to his credit -- seems excellent. He's getting great effort from the team in that area. But the offense continues to stagnate, and when the 2nd unit plays with Miller on the floor, the pace stagnates as well. It's both a philosophical and a rotational problem, and it's going to lead to stale periods like now when Wall isn't feeling tip-top.

It's a shame that we're stuck with Wit, as the team'd clearly benefit from better coaching.) I'd give him a D- on offense, and probably a B+ on defense, and C/C- on rotations. Replace him with Budenholzer, SVG, Carlisle... you'd see a totally different squad.

That's pretty much it. And that's what's so frustrating. Its SOOOOO obvious what to do and where the problems are.

One thing I think most expect from a HC is for them to help the team by putting in a system and rotations that help make it easier for the players to win. Nothing is more frustrating then watching the same fundamental mistake in coaching happen over and over with to little and to late adjustments.

Randy's offense is just so brutal to watch. No way the players can enjoy playing that style of basketball. Listen to Gortat in the interview I posted. He just feel like he is running around setting picks and they aren't using him for what he does well. And I totally agree with him.

Beal. They need to dial him back. Way to much effort is being put in to allowing him to do things he isn't good at or to generate long 2s for him. Just catch and shoot. Curl of picks for catch and shoot or pass the freaking ball. If he is going to drive, have someone hit him while he is cutting to the basket.

I would be a lot more hopeful if we had SVG. He would have been a good fit here. The right knowledge and the right personality.

[dckingsfan]

Yep, the right GM would have brought him in...

[hands11]

Yep, the right GM would have brought him in...

Well sadly for us, it looks like they are riding out Randy until they know about KD. They aren't getting a good coach on a one year contract.

That right. After next year, KD is FREE to go where he wants.

I assume they want someone KD would be on board with. But hard to think he wouldn't be on board with SVG

And Randy got resigned because of what they did last year and because Wall has developed so well.

At least he is teaching them defense.

Maybe EG can do like he tried with Thibbs for EFJ and get Randy some offensive help. Again, I have no idea what the assistants here are doing but it doesn't seem like much.

[dckingsfan]

Wasn't there a Wittman COY thread?