Glen Rice Jr.

[Illmatic12]

Doubt it...rice can play sf and beal will average 24/4/5 next year he's not going anywhere

No 21 yo shooting guard has ever put up close to those numbers. Look it up.

I hope you don't actually believe those will be Beal's averages, if so I feel sorry for you. You will be quite disappointed

I honestly do...ariza was a pure spot up...pierce can create to an extent...i see Beal getting a lot more looks..he's also more stable now as a player...him and wall will average close to 50 point a game

Just because Beal can go off for 25+ doesn't mean he will do it every. Single. Game.

That's what averaging means, you're putting up those numbers every night and defenses will be throwing everything at you.

Nobody scores 24ppg off 'looks'.. if you're scoring that much you are elite at creating your own looks, and getting to the FT line.

I'll be happy with Beal if he scores 19ppg on good efficiency. We don't need him gunning for 20+ppg on this team.

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I told you guys, Rice was worth a 1st round pick last year. Nate Wolters or whoever else we could have drafted won't have this kid's upside. The only other guy I wanted was Pierre Jackson but unfortunately he tore his achillies in the Orlando summer league after showing out in the NBDL last year.

I was on the Rice bandwagon as well...after I saw tapes of his play in the NBDL, which I was very impressed by. They supported suggestions that GRII had first round potential.

I thought Rice played liked he belonged in the limited minutes he got early last season, especially defensively. Those who wanted Wolters instead will eventually realize that Rice was the right pick.

Everyone thought he had first round potential, Zards -- that was the specific description of him. Followed by mention of his being kicked out of school, etc. And that was what cost him a R1 position.

And when you write "Those who wanted Wolters instead will eventually realize that Rice was the right pick" you indicate that it's an absolute certainty. That's impressive knowledge, man! Wow.

I mean, the "limited minutes" you saw of Rice (that would be 109 minutes total on the season and less than 10 minutes a game when he did appear) -- and no doubt especially Glen's 29% on 3pt attempts? and 30% on 2pt attempts? -- showed you that "he belonged" and certainly dwarfed the much less significant fact that Wolters came into the league, earned 1300+ minutes as a rookie, and played at a level well above the average backup PG. Especially when you add the fact that you saw tape of Rice in the D-League.

Do I have that right?

Glen has had a terrific SL. Some guys who do that go on to make it in the league. A lot more guys who do that go on to fail in the league. Take a look at what Anthony Randolph did in the SL some time -- and that's when he was 19!

Glen Rice is definitely talented -- tho no way is he as talented as Anthony Randolph; few guys are. I hope he establishes himself as an NBA player. It'll be a lot of work, but he has the potential to do it, no doubt. And as soon as he does, we can start mentioning him in the same sentence with Nate Wolters.

[Brenice]

The Wizards have too many weapons for anybody to average 24 points per game. During any game they will go with the hot hand OR the favorable matchup. Nene, Gortat, Beal, Wall, will have their opportunities, and Pierce and the bench players will do more than chip in.

[nuposse04]

I don't want anyone on the team averaging much more then 20 to be honest. It seems like it is very taxing to players to play that much hero ball throughout the course of a regular season unless your name is LBJ/Durant, and even then I think those guys get burnt out in the playoffs.

[80sballboy]

Doubt it...rice can play sf and beal will average 24/4/5 next year he's not going anywhere

No 21 yo shooting guard has ever put up close to those numbers. Look it up.

I hope you don't actually believe those will be Beal's averages, if so I feel sorry for you. You will be quite disappointed

I honestly do...ariza was a pure spot up...pierce can create to an extent...i see Beal getting a lot more looks..he's also more stable now as a player...him and wall will average close to 50 point a game

That's a bit optimistic but the whole point is that we're putting Rice on a superstar level for dominating SL play. I just hope he gets the playing time and gives Beal some legit rest. He won't be able to get a lot o those drives against good NBA 2s and 3s. And at 6-6, 220 or so, he's mainly a 2-guard, still working on his handles. I hope Rice can push Beal because he's actually a bit older.

Beal is just scratching the surface of greatness. He showed in the playoffs what he could be. But I agree that he's not going from 17ppg to 24 in one year. He doesn't need to. We have enough ammunition that we don't need a James Harden-type ball dominator. The key to winning is ball movement and balanced scoring (unless you have LeBron). Just ask the Spurs.

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Anyway, who among us hasn't fired off a few rounds from a moving vehicle? It's a hell of a lot safer than firing from a parked car.

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nate please change this thread title to "Rice Cold Jr"

[Benjammin]

Irrational exuberance! You have to love it.

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No 21 yo shooting guard has ever put up close to those numbers. Look it up.

I hope you don't actually believe those will be Beal's averages, if so I feel sorry for you. You will be quite disappointed

I honestly do...ariza was a pure spot up...pierce can create to an extent...i see Beal getting a lot more looks..he's also more stable now as a player...him and wall will average close to 50 point a game

That's a bit optimistic but the whole point is that we're putting Rice on a superstar level for dominating SL play. I just hope he gets the playing time and gives Beal some legit rest. He won't be able to get a lot o those drives against good NBA 2s and 3s. And at 6-6, 220 or so, he's mainly a 2-guard, still working on his handles. I hope Rice can push Beal because he's actually a bit older.

Beal is just scratching the surface of greatness. He showed in the playoffs what he could be. But I agree that he's not going from 17ppg to 24 in one year. He doesn't need to. We have enough ammunition that we don't need a James Harden-type ball dominator. The key to winning is ball movement and balanced scoring (unless you have LeBron). Just ask the Spurs.

"I hope Rice can push Beal because he's actually a bit older." -- a bit? He's 2 1/2 years older than Bradley Beal. I think we have a good number of 4th-year veterans in the league who are no older than Glen Rice.

Glen is a 2 not a 3. He was measured at 6'4.5" at the Combine. So 6'6" in shoes. He's also more like 210 than 220. I don't think it'd be fair to ask him to defend NBA 3's, and on offense the longer ones (i.e. most of them) could give him fits. His handle is more than adequate for a 2.

Put Rice at the position where he it is most likely he'll establish an identity and be successful; that's what he needs to do right now -- establish that he can be (is) an NBA player. That'll be at the 2 not the 3.

Just for comparison, at 19 years old, Trevor was 2 1/2 inches taller than Rice, with a 7'2" wingspan (Rice = 6'9.5"), and a standing reach 6 inches longer than Glen's.

Glen is 23, btw. Otto Porter is 2 1/2 years younger than Glen Rice. Otto's height, wingspan, reach and weight are almost exactly the same as Ariza's when he was drafted. Given Porter's youth, I'd rate his SL performance as indicating a much higher ceiling than Rice's, which is nice but will only be meaningful if he achieves that potential. Not that Rice lacks talent -- not what I mean.

[deneem4]

No 21 yo shooting guard has ever put up close to those numbers. Look it up.

I hope you don't actually believe those will be Beal's averages, if so I feel sorry for you. You will be quite disappointed

I honestly do...ariza was a pure spot up...pierce can create to an extent...i see Beal getting a lot more looks..he's also more stable now as a player...him and wall will average close to 50 point a game

Just because Beal can go off for 25+ doesn't mean he will do it every. Single. Game.

That's what averaging means, you're putting up those numbers every night and defenses will be throwing everything at you.

Nobody scores 24ppg off 'looks'.. if you're scoring that much you are elite at creating your own looks, and getting to the FT line.

I'll be happy with Beal if he scores 19ppg on good efficiency. We don't need him gunning for 20+ppg on this team.

I kno what averaging means and I don't agree.
Who's going to be consistent other than wall or beal??
Nene??? He won't even play 3 games straight
pierce?? He wasn't too effective in Brooklyn
gortat?? Complete relative center, Wall with generate 80% of his offense

if we're going to be a contender now or when durant comes someone's needs to step into that 23+ range, we're not the spurs we need top scorers I see Beal doing it then wall coming later that season or the following season.

[Induveca]

I honestly do...ariza was a pure spot up...pierce can create to an extent...i see Beal getting a lot more looks..he's also more stable now as a player...him and wall will average close to 50 point a game

Just because Beal can go off for 25+ doesn't mean he will do it every. Single. Game.

That's what averaging means, you're putting up those numbers every night and defenses will be throwing everything at you.

Nobody scores 24ppg off 'looks'.. if you're scoring that much you are elite at creating your own looks, and getting to the FT line.

I'll be happy with Beal if he scores 19ppg on good efficiency. We don't need him gunning for 20+ppg on this team.

I kno what averaging means and I don't agree.
Who's going to be consistent other than wall or beal??
Nene??? He won't even play 3 games straight
pierce?? He wasn't too effective in Brooklyn
gortat?? Complete relative center, Wall with generate 80% of his offense

if we're going to be a contender now or when durant comes someone's needs to step into that 23+ range, we're not the spurs we need top scorers I see Beal doing it then wall coming later that season or the following season.

I would suggest spelling or grammar check. Hard on the brain.

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Tell me... who were the last 3 SL MVPs? Anyone remember? Anyone care? Any one of them turn into a terrific NBA player? Which one?

[Hidden Eye]

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Tell me... who were the last 3 SL MVPs? Anyone remember? Anyone care? Any one of them turn into a terrific NBA player? Which one?

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[nuposse04]

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Tell me... who were the last 3 SL MVPs? Anyone remember? Anyone care? Any one of them turn into a terrific NBA player? Which one?

Why do you care if he won it or not? You actually come off as jaded that he won that. No one here is thinking SL MVP=all star player, but damn...it seems kind of petty to cut the guys individual achievements apart. I wonder if you actually WANT him to do well as a wizard.

[stevemcqueen1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Summer ... VP_Winners

The Las Vegas MVP winners range from decent/promising players to perennial All Stars for the most part. It's good company for a 2nd round pick.

[TGW]

Tell me... who were the last 3 SL MVPs? Anyone remember? Anyone care? Any one of them turn into a terrific NBA player? Which one?

Caldwell Pope
Valuciunas
Lamb
Lilliard
Selby
Wall
B. Griffin
Bayless
N. Robinson
Foye

Pretty damn good list if you ask me.

[montestewart]

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Tell me... who were the last 3 SL MVPs? Anyone remember? Anyone care? Any one of them turn into a terrific NBA player? Which one?

Why do you care if he won it or not? You actually come off as jaded that he won that. No one here is thinking SL MVP=all star player, but damn...it seems kind of petty to cut the guys individual achievements apart. I wonder if you actually WANT him to do well as a wizard.

Hopefully it's not going too much to his head. It's not going to my head. Nothing wrong with getting a little recognition for himself and his team, just like when Wall was in the Slam Dunk and Beal in the 3P competition. These distinctions probably contribute a little to changing the Wizards image to media, fans, and potential FAs, as well as lifting the morale of the team. This team's been down for a long time. Wizards never used to be mentioned in connection with anything that wasn't straight up embarrassing.

Congratulations, GRJ!

[Illmatic12]

I honestly do...ariza was a pure spot up...pierce can create to an extent...i see Beal getting a lot more looks..he's also more stable now as a player...him and wall will average close to 50 point a game

Just because Beal can go off for 25+ doesn't mean he will do it every. Single. Game.

That's what averaging means, you're putting up those numbers every night and defenses will be throwing everything at you.

Nobody scores 24ppg off 'looks'.. if you're scoring that much you are elite at creating your own looks, and getting to the FT line.

I'll be happy with Beal if he scores 19ppg on good efficiency. We don't need him gunning for 20+ppg on this team.

I kno what averaging means and I don't agree.
Who's going to be consistent other than wall or beal??
Nene??? He won't even play 3 games straight
pierce?? He wasn't too effective in Brooklyn
gortat?? Complete relative center, Wall with generate 80% of his offense

if we're going to be a contender now or when durant comes someone's needs to step into that 23+ range, we're not the spurs we need top scorers I see Beal doing it then wall coming later that season or the following season.

Pierce was quite effective in Brooklyn.. he averaged 13.5ppg on a 59.5 TS%. He would instantly be our most efficient wing scorer with those numbers.

And your post seems to imply that Wall and Beal are consistent scorers, which they aren't. Beal was extremely inconsistent last year. His monthly ppg went: 20.9, 14.5, 15.2, 16.1, 17.1, 19.1

^That's someone you expect to average 24ppg, every single night? Really now? It just doesn't make any logical sense to predict that. Try to keep your expectations within the realm of reality.

[Illmatic12]

Tell me... who were the last 3 SL MVPs? Anyone remember? Anyone care? Any one of them turn into a terrific NBA player? Which one?

Caldwell Pope
Valuciunas
Lamb
Lilliard
Selby
Wall
B. Griffin
Bayless
N. Robinson
Foye

Pretty damn good list if you ask me.

And Rice Jr is the only second round pick on that list. But we really have people trying to paint it as a bad thing..