Political Roundtable Part XXV

[FAH1223]

Andrew Yang is the most intriguing candidate. Send $1 his way so he can get into the debates in June.

I could see the Freedom Dividend gain stream across the country. He could take off like Bernie did in 2015.

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Andrew Yang is the most intriguing candidate. Send $1 his way so he can get into the debates in June.

I could see the Freedom Dividend gain stream across the country. He could take off like Bernie did in 2015.

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i sent yang money. i want him in the debates. he has the best ideas on the democratic side and he actually can count money.

Only thing is i want yang to take his UI (ai is replacing most jobs anyway) theory all the way to the end. If AI is truly replacing jobs then its time to stop wasting money and time educating many americans. save that money and give it away.

more americans will become even stupider. fine with me. Hopefully they cant read or write and therefore uniterested in voting. We dont need dumb people voting...especially if their labor will be replaced with AI machines anyway.

The cacoon farm of harvesting energy from humans (because that is all they will be good for) is not far away! Let's do this!!

[montestewart]

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[dckingsfan]

Andrew Yang is the most intriguing candidate. Send $1 his way so he can get into the debates in June.

Sent him a $100 - got the board covered

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[montestewart]

Yeah, cause nothing says AOC hatchet job like a video emblazoned with a Reagan logo

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here's a real question to all liberals/democrats in regards to UBI. <--which i support.

If AI machines are really going to eventually do the work (labor) why do we need to (waste time and money) educating this future workforce that is going to sit on the sidelines anyway and just collect UBI? Isn't this a waste of time for the individual. leading to a road of heartache and disappointment?

And not everyone...obviously. But our dumbest and laziest people will simply be replaced. All drivers. All delivery. All manufacturing. Its all going AI. All sales will be on the internet. Even dentistry has been slowly replaced by machines. and we have a prototype that is cleaning teeth right now. So this is happening. Only laws can prevent it. If we dont pass the laws to stop it, AI taking over most jobs will happen.

So why then should we pay to educate those who are not going to end up in the workforce anyway??

because the long told argument that we have made in this country is that we educate our young because they are our future. They are the future "scientists, doctors, engineers" etc. <--then that is all we need (to pay) to educate!! The elite intelligent people that try hard to bring about new discoveries. And we can test to figure out who this will be early. Like 8th grade at the latest.

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Yeah, cause nothing says AOC hatchet job like a video emblazoned with a Reagan logo

she's a hard left manchurian candidate and you know it. She is NOT a grass roots self identified anything. She's an actress that responded to a casting call. Its in the video. There is hard evidence to support this. She's too dumb to know better and everyone sees it. She doesn't know a thing about any of this. Never in my lifetime could i imagine an imbecile in congress. Many play dumb. Many play "aw shucks." This lady is dumber than a box of rocks and everybody knows it. She was a fricking bartender that answered a casting call.

But in all seriousness. it wont be long before she is brought up on charges of something so I aint too worried. Like i said. She is dumber than a box of rocks.

[TGW]

Andrew Yang is the most intriguing candidate. Send $1 his way so he can get into the debates in June.

I could see the Freedom Dividend gain stream across the country. He could take off like Bernie did in 2015.

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His breakfast club interview was fantastic.

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Andrew Yang is the most intriguing candidate. Send $1 his way so he can get into the debates in June.

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That guy doesn't share any of your ideals...

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Pedo Joe thinks he's going to get the black vote, but once this goes mainstream, that's his racist ass:

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So an honest question: Obviously, its early but Which candidate do you see positioned to get the black vote?

Edit: Besides Bernie.

First of all, the "black vote" despite what Democrats and Reps say, is not some homogeneous vote. More than likely, it gets spread out amongst several different candidates.

I suspect Bernie, Warren, Harris and maybe even Yang will split a lot of the black millennial vote (although early polling suggests that Sanders is winning that vote by a hefty margin).

The old church crowd vote will mostly go to Biden, mostly because many the old people are uninformed, stuck in the past, and like "optics". Biden is riding Obama's legacy as long as he can. I wouldn't be surprised if he came out with a tan suit during his announcement.

[dckingsfan]

Bernie is so old... his birth certificate says expired

[stilldropin20]

Andrew Yang is the most intriguing candidate. Send $1 his way so he can get into the debates in June.

Sent him a $100 - got the board covered

That guy doesn't share any of your ideals...

Yang is the only candidate on the left talking about real issues that should concern all of us with his version of what i would call real solutions. That makes Yang the only candidate worthy of the presidency (so far).

That doesn't make Yang the only guy in the room with solutions. There are other solutions. Most notably...laws against massive AI replacement of human resources...which some might say is delaying the inevitable. I call it, simply, a lifestyle choice. No different than choosing to harm the environment less. Choosing to harm helpless animals less. We can promote the well being of dogs for example and choose to be better and we can do the exact same things with choosing to buy american goods, tariffing foreign goods, and making american manufacturers of goods use human resources so as to keeps our jobs markets open.

So yang is talking real issues. namely AI replacing all of our jobs in the very near term. He proposes some solid logical potential solutions like UBI.<--which could work so long as you make the large corporations that are using AI instead of humans directly pay for the UBI. Again, dont make mom and pop down the street that are earning 100K pay for this crap!!!! Because it is total crap that AI is going to replace most labor when simple laws could prevent it...and as long as we tariff the crap out of foreign goods from foreign countries that are using AI...it wont matter...it will force americans to buy american or will create a ton of tariff revenue. Both are good things.

So a combination of UBI, laws preventing too much AI in one place, and good tariff policy will keep the american economy strong and workers working.

I would add that americans laying around doing nothing is dangerous. They must be made to work to collect their UBI. So Im seeing a massive uptick in the arts as a result of UBI where douchebags choosing to lay around and collect UBI must do something...even create art...to collect their UBI.

^^^if all of these issues are solved intelligently with a combinations of laws, tariffs, and a creation of humans creating more art it actually could be a wonderful thing for humanity...especially if big business is (solely) made to foot the bill for the UBI.

[stilldropin20]

Bernie is so old... his birth certificate says expired

I'm a former bernie bro. But i always knew Bernie was a liar. There is not such thing as free stuff. Someone is always paying for it.

Simultaneously, we must remain strong militarily and protect our domestic jobs markets both with volume of jobs and actual wages. bernie only really talks about wages. which dont matter when UE rates hit 15% and higher.

bernie is always talking free college just to get votes. Why pay for college for these kids if AI is taking their jobs anyway?? Just put them on UBI and if they want to go to college they should pay for it themselves.

Bottom line: AI is coming. <-- and no one is talking about it but Yang.

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TBH, if UBI catches fire (and it likely will because americans love free stuff) Trump and GOP should steal it.

Trump and GOP owns the senate. Its just another lie for Yang right now because they dont have the senate nor can beat trump. Especially if trump steals his UBI idea.

Trump and GOP could steal the UBI idea and run on it up and down the ticket and in even primaries and enact it it 2021. Its a slam phucking dunk win and a path to take both houses and keep the white house.

[FAH1223]

Bernie is so old... his birth certificate says expired

I'm a former bernie bro. But i always knew Bernie was a liar. There is not such thing as free stuff. Someone is always paying for it.

Simultaneously, we must remain strong militarily and protect our domestic jobs markets both with volume of jobs and actual wages. bernie only really talks about wages. which dont matter when UE rates hit 15% and higher.

bernie is always talking free college just to get votes. Why pay for college for these kids if AI is taking their jobs anyway?? Just put them on UBI and if they want to go to college they should pay for it themselves.

Bottom line: AI is coming. <-- and no one is talking about it but Yang.

Free college is a drop in the bucket of the federal budget, high end estimate is like what, $80 billion per year? Andrew Yang has said he supports the idea in spirit but he'd first cut university costs by demanding that administration is cut in order to access federal loans.

He also correctly points to getting kids into vocational and trade apprenticeships and get us moving toward a country like Germany. You can't automate those type of jobs.

Also, Medicare For All isn't "free stuff". Yang supports single payer and rightfully notes how paying health insurance premiums is a drag on business especially if you compete internationally and your peers are having their workers healthcare subsidized by the state.

Medicare for All according to Mercatus is $3.2 trillion per year and in a decade is where you get $32 trillion. We save $2 trillion+ over a decade over our current system. Right now we pay $2 trillion for public healthcare and $1.5 trillion in private. We are already spending the money. But we have 30M uninsured, more underinsured, and life expectancy dropping. Add in drug, insurance and hospital monopolies + price gouging, the question will be how can we afford not to go single payer and/or drastically remake this sector of the economy? Do we really want to spend 20-22% of GDP in a decade on a failing system?

[stilldropin20]

Bernie is so old... his birth certificate says expired

I'm a former bernie bro. But i always knew Bernie was a liar. There is not such thing as free stuff. Someone is always paying for it.

Simultaneously, we must remain strong militarily and protect our domestic jobs markets both with volume of jobs and actual wages. bernie only really talks about wages. which dont matter when UE rates hit 15% and higher.

bernie is always talking free college just to get votes. Why pay for college for these kids if AI is taking their jobs anyway?? Just put them on UBI and if they want to go to college they should pay for it themselves.

Bottom line: AI is coming. <-- and no one is talking about it but Yang.

Free college is a drop in the bucket of the federal budget, high end estimate is like what, $80 billion per year? Andrew Yang has said he supports the idea in spirit but he'd first cut university costs by demanding that administration is cut in order to access federal loans.

He also correctly points to getting kids into vocational and trade apprenticeships and get us moving toward a country like Germany. You can't automate those type of jobs.

Also, Medicare For All isn't "free stuff". Yang supports single payer and rightfully notes how paying health insurance premiums is a drag on business especially if you compete internationally and your peers are having their workers healthcare subsidized by the state.

Medicare for All according to Mercatus is $3.2 trillion per year and in a decade is where you get $32 trillion. We save $2 trillion+ over a decade over our current system. Right now we pay $2 trillion for public healthcare and $1.5 trillion in private. We are already spending the money. But we have 30M uninsured, more underinsured, and life expectancy dropping. Add in drug, insurance and hospital monopolies + price gouging, the question will be how can we afford not to go single payer and/or drastically remake this sector of the economy? Do we really want to spend 20-22% of GDP in a decade on a failing system?

Dude, I'm on board. I am still a registered democrat and I am voting for Lang in the primaries. So is everyone in my family. About 50 of us. we just had a major family get together and discussed.

My family is a bunch of hard lined democrats with some GOP. All of them are local small business owners and own real estate. They either heavily Politically active and influential. or minimally Politically engaged and somewhat influential. We are organizers and leaders in our community, our schools, our small businesses. And we are behind yang. Yang needs to do his part. and part of that is to get a little more energy in his eyes and body...We dont want to waste our votes on him but as of now, we are behind him 100%.

I do think Yang should pivot though and accept some GOP platforms like Trumps trade (balanced) policy with china (or heavy tariffs) because UBI is and AI and trade policy are all tied together on trade.

that and if he could condemn mid and late term abortions after 20 weeks, he could win over enough people to win it all.

Or else trump and GOP could and should simply adopt UBI...if they do adopt it early enough the GOP can take back both houses and a super majority in senate. <--and get shxt done!!

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