Bradley Beal - Part IV

[Frichuela]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/07/01/bradley-beal-contract-wizards/

Candace Buckner is not excited about the Beal contract. Calls the contract a $250 million participation trophy and points out that Beal has had no effect on the won/loss record, which has also been terrible. She even links to the replies to the Wizards main twitter account announcing the contract. This was one of the better replies -

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Very well written article I thought. Beal’s camp does not like obviously

[FAH1223]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/07/01/bradley-beal-contract-wizards/

Candace Buckner is not excited about the Beal contract. Calls the contract a $250 million participation trophy and points out that Beal has had no effect on the won/loss record, which has also been terrible. She even links to the replies to the Wizards main twitter account announcing the contract. This was one of the better replies -

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Also this one -

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Very well written article I thought. Beal’s camp does not like obviously

My problem with that article is that it leaves the front office entirely off the hook.

The inability to draft starters or find diamonds in the rough and terrible free agent signings when they didn't have to make them (see 2016) are the reasons why the 'Beal era' has been a struggle.

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...The inability to draft starters or find diamonds in the rough and terrible free agent signings when they didn't have to make them (see 2016) are the reasons why the 'Beal era' has been a struggle.

Perfectly true. In fact, what point is there in calling it "the Beal era?" Even the name saddles him with results he didn't cause.

Doesn't make this a sensible contract....

[FAH1223]

...The inability to draft starters or find diamonds in the rough and terrible free agent signings when they didn't have to make them (see 2016) are the reasons why the 'Beal era' has been a struggle.

Perfectly true. In fact, what point is there in calling it "the Beal era?" Even the name saddles him with results he didn't cause.

Doesn't make this a sensible contract....

The point is that they’ve been saying they’re building the team around Brad since 2019.

The decisions of the past hamstrung the ability to compete.

All of us on this board seen it in real time

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Actually, this could go in many threads -- & probably should go in all of them given how utterly true it is & how utterly idiotic it was to give Brad this kind of $$.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-offseason-winners-and-losers-celtics-add-to-championship-formula-hawks-blazers-prioritize-defense/

Winner: Bradley Beal
Beal... signed a massive extension with the Wizards: Five years, $251 million. I still bet he gets traded before that contract expires, but by signing with Washington, which owns his Bird rights, he guaranteed himself a fifth guaranteed year, which will equate to about $57 million extra in his bank. That goes with him even if he does get traded. I'd bet good money that Beal winds up having his cake and eating it too, eventually ending up on a contender while also signing the biggest deal possible.

Loser: Washington Wizards
They should've traded Beal a long time ago. There's no way this team is competing for anything other than a bottom playoff seed with Beal making that kind of money. He's just not a 1A championship guy. He honestly might not even be a sufficient No. 2 given how deep the talent is across the league right now. Washington should have a bundle of assets right now for Beal.

This is what the Spurs did after Kawhi Leonard. They tried to win with DeMar DeRozan -- a pretty good Beal comp -- as their best player instead of committing to a rebuild. They finally conceded to reality and recently traded Dejounte Murray to the Hawks for a bunch of first-round picks, signaling a fresh start. Maybe Washington will eventually come to the same conclusion with Beal. They certainly should. But until then, they're paying Beal and Kristaps Porzingis just shy of $80 million next season. Good luck with that.

[tleikheen]

In todays NBA Beal could easily be playing the PG position with a taller running mate along side him . In Avidja and Kuzma you have two other guys who can bring the ball upcourt ala Draymond Green. So penciling in Kispert or eventually Davis in at SG along side Beal (PG) takes the burden off of Beal guarding taller SG's every game. Beal will most likely win most of the matchups at PG.

The big decision is whether the Wiz are copycats and start the season trying to play small and pile up losses early .Or if they do start with early losses playing to their roster's strength which is the younger ,longer players getting minutes to start the season.

Im not one of those that thinks a Beal/Porzingus/Kuzma lineup will be a losing lineup.Beal and Porzingus can easily put 25ppg scoring right away and Kuzma 18/20 ppg . Its who do you complement them with ?

[DCZards]

In todays NBA Beal could easily be playing the PG position with a taller running mate along side him . In Avidja and Kuzma you have two other guys who can bring the ball upcourt ala Draymond Green. So penciling in Kispert or eventually Davis in at SG along side Beal (PG) takes the burden off of Beal guarding taller SG's every game. Beal will most likely win most of the matchups at PG.

The big decision is whether the Wiz are copycats and start the season trying to play small and pile up losses early .Or if they do start with early losses playing to their roster's strength which is the younger ,longer players getting minutes to start the season.

Im not one of those that thinks a Beal/Porzingus/Kuzma lineup will be a losing lineup.Beal and Porzingus can easily put 25ppg scoring right away and Kuzma 18/20 ppg . Its who do you complement them with ?

Bradley Beal should not be playing PG. His best position is SG. We've already seen that playing Beal at PG only leads to a high # of turnovers and questionable decisions when the shot clock is running out.

You trade for Morris and sign Wright so that BB does not have to play out of position at PG.

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In todays NBA Beal could easily be playing the PG position with a taller running mate along side him . In Avidja and Kuzma you have two other guys who can bring the ball upcourt ala Draymond Green. So penciling in Kispert or eventually Davis in at SG along side Beal (PG) takes the burden off of Beal guarding taller SG's every game. Beal will most likely win most of the matchups at PG.

The big decision is whether the Wiz are copycats and start the season trying to play small and pile up losses early .Or if they do start with early losses playing to their roster's strength which is the younger ,longer players getting minutes to start the season.

Im not one of those that thinks a Beal/Porzingus/Kuzma lineup will be a losing lineup.Beal and Porzingus can easily put 25ppg scoring right away and Kuzma 18/20 ppg . Its who do you complement them with ?

This is thoughtful... & thanks for taking a positive tack!

I'm not sure the off season roster changes are finished; I have the sense that at least one forward will be moved. Then again... maybe it's wishful thinking on my part given that I don't share the view some people have of Kuzma as a positive force on the court. Of course I'd rather you be the one who's right!

I'm happy to say that it does start to feel like there's a lot to be interested in! At least 4 new players, not counting Porzingis who is new himself! 10 of our 14 players have arrived since draft day 2021. We have one open roster spot & one open 2-way spot (assuming we don't cut Schakel's cord), so we'll see a couple more additions to the team before the off season ends -- even if no one else is traded.

I hope there are 2 additions to the team out of Summer League -- both Devon Dotson & Quenton Jackson look like genuine NBA prospects off of their college numbers & youtube videos.

Dotson in particular looks like a prospect at about the same level as Jalen Brunson coming out of college (which doesn't mean he'll pan out at Brunson's level -- or at all, for that matter). If you compare their Sophomore years at Kansas & Gonzaga, there's nothing to choose between the two of them. & Dotson played a tougher SOS. Both players were highly regarded out of HS -- RSCI 19 (Brunson) & 20 (Dotson).

I like Quenton Jackson a whole lot too. If those 2 guys make our team either as 2 way players or (one of them) on the regular roster, it will amp up the "to be interested in" vector a lot for me. May it be so!

[tleikheen]

(You trade for Morris and sign Wright so that BB does not have to play out of position at PG.)

Backup PG's with less than 1/3 of the ability of Beal to make the Wiz better .......

Only "one game" did Morris get dbl digit assists (10) in a game while starting 74/75 games. While ...... Beal had 4 gms with a high of 17 assists in a game in the 40 gms he played. Beal had a high of 6.6 apg ,higher than Morris has ever had 4.4 apg.
It's obvious Beal "already" knows how to move the ball and get his team mates better shots. Having a "true PG" that just brings the ball up to run the offense through Porzingus isnt needed as Beal and Porzingus will be the focus of the teams offense. Avidja and Kuzma lend their talents to ball movement and helping bring the ball up with Beal to initiate offense.

Morris who has so much game experience running the 2nd unit with Barton who he has yrs playing with make a good tandem off the bench.

[DCZards]

(You trade for Morris and sign Wright so that BB does not have to play out of position at PG.)

Backup PG's with less than 1/3 of the ability of Beal to make the Wiz better .......

Only "one game" did Morris get dbl digit assists (10) in a game while starting 74/75 games. While ...... Beal had 4 gms with a high of 17 assists in a game in the 40 gms he played. Beal had a high of 6.6 apg ,higher than Morris has ever had 4.4 apg.
It's obvious Beal "already" knows how to move the ball and get his team mates better shots. Having a "true PG" that just brings the ball up to run the offense through Porzingus isnt needed as Beal and Porzingus will be the focus of the teams offense. Avidja and Kuzma lend their talents to ball movement and helping bring the ball up with Beal to initiate offense.

Morris who has so much game experience running the 2nd unit with Barton who he has yrs playing with make a good tandem off the bench.

Assists are a good thing. But did you compare Beal's assist to TO rate to that of Morris? Turnovers kill momentum, often leading to easy buckets for the opponent. Beal turns the ball over a lot....and not turning the ball over is one of Morris's strengths.

[queridiculo]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2022/07/01/bradley-beal-contract-wizards/

Candace Buckner is not excited about the Beal contract. Calls the contract a $250 million participation trophy and points out that Beal has had no effect on the won/loss record, which has also been terrible. She even links to the replies to the Wizards main twitter account announcing the contract. This was one of the better replies -

I think it’s a disgusting hit piece, especially when you consider for how long the Post has been carrying water for Leonsis and his reign of ineptitude.

There was an article to be written about the contract, but pinning it on Beal as opposed to focusing on how poorly run the organization is seems to be incredibly misguided and foul.

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Dotson in particular looks like a prospect at about the same level as Jalen Brunson coming out of college (which doesn't mean he'll pan out at Brunson's level -- or at all, for that matter). If you compare their Sophomore years at Kansas & Gonzaga, there's nothing to choose between the two of them.

Not this again!

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Dotson in particular looks like a prospect at about the same level as Jalen Brunson coming out of college (which doesn't mean he'll pan out at Brunson's level -- or at all, for that matter). If you compare their Sophomore years at Kansas & Gonzaga, there's nothing to choose between the two of them.

Not this again!

Look... I did not say Dotson IS as good a player as Jalen Brunson. I didn't say he WILL BE as good a player as Brunson. I don't know either of those things to be true, how could I? So I don't hold them as opinions.

In fact I was quite specific that similar productivity in 2 college years "doesn't mean he'll pan out at Brunson't level -- or at all, for that matter."

What I did say was that as a Freshman & Sophomore in college, playing a tougher schedule than Brunson, Devon Dotson put up numbers "at about the same level" as Brunson. Actually, if anything he put up slightly better numbers overall -- tho "better" is not the point.

Players WILL come along who are as good as Brunson, you do understand that, right? Players will come along who are better than he is. Some of those players, like Brunson, will be taken later than they should have been. E.g., like Brunson, in R2.

I don't know (how could I know?) & wouldn't claim that Devon Dotson is one of those players. But, I have no trouble saying that his college performance indicates that he has potential & is worth a close look. Brunson is present in the sentence I wrote as a piece of evidence that it's possible. He is a guy who put up good college numbers, got picked in R2, & has proved out.

What is your problem with that? Will there never ever be another surprise performer come out of R2? Or is it an insult to Jalen Brunson to say that some other player is promising?

Above all, do we not need a few positive surprises? I'd say so. It would be great if Dotson is that kind of positive surprise.

So, for clarity, let me repeat my point: as a Freshman & again as a Sophomore, playing for Kansas & against an extremely tough schedule of appointments, Devon Dotson put up numbers that were, overall, as good as, or a little better than, Jalen Brunson's numbers in his Freshman & Sophomore years. Moreover, as a Sophomore his usage was higher than Brunson's was. Those facts make me think that Dotson might have potential.

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Dotson in particular looks like a prospect at about the same level as Jalen Brunson coming out of college (which doesn't mean he'll pan out at Brunson's level -- or at all, for that matter). If you compare their Sophomore years at Kansas & Gonzaga, there's nothing to choose between the two of them.

Not this again!

Look... I did not say Dotson IS as good a player as Jalen Brunson. I didn't say he WILL BE as good a player as Brunson. I don't know either of those things to be true, how could I? So I don't hold them as opinions.

In fact I was quite specific that similar productivity in 2 college years "doesn't mean he'll pan out at Brunson't level -- or at all, for that matter."

What I did say was that as a Freshman & Sophomore in college, playing a tougher schedule than Brunson, Devon Dotson put up numbers "at about the same level" as Brunson. Actually, if anything he put up slightly better numbers overall -- tho "better" is not the point.

Players WILL come along who are as good as Brunson, you do understand that, right? Players will come along who are better than he is. Some of those players, like Brunson, will be taken later than they should have been. E.g., like Brunson, in R2.

I don't know (how could I know?) & wouldn't claim that Devon Dotson is one of those players. But, I have no trouble saying that his college performance indicates that he has potential & is worth a close look. Brunson is present in the sentence I wrote as a piece of evidence that it's possible. He is a guy who put up good college numbers, got picked in R2, & has proved out.

What is your problem with that? Will there never ever be another surprise performer come out of R2? Or is it an insult to Jalen Brunson to say that some other player is promising?

Above all, do we not need a few positive surprises? I'd say so. It would be great if Dotson is that kind of positive surprise.

So, for clarity, let me repeat my point: as a Freshman & again as a Sophomore, playing for Kansas & against an extremely tough schedule of appointments, Devon Dotson put up numbers that were, overall, as good as, or a little better than, Jalen Brunson's numbers in his Freshman & Sophomore years. Moreover, as a Sophomore his usage was higher than Brunson's was. Those facts make me think that Dotson might have potential.

I was just talking about the Brunson / Gonzaga thing, not sure if what I bolded in the section of your post which I quoted was visible. I liked Dotson in his draft! Very much seemed to be one of those steady but undersized guards that fall in the draft but end up with a good shot at a productive role. I was happy to see we'd brought him in for SL.

[The Consiglieri]

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**** you Ted. This was expected but still so freaking sickening.

And, I'm out till 2027 other than draft day talk.

It's gonna be awesome watching the USMNT over the next 5 years, U20's just won their third straight concacaf championship, pipeline is spewing out legit prospects like a Texas Oil Rig 115 years ago.

The wiz are so ----ing incompetent they are simply not worth your time, at all.

I find it hilarious that they couldn't even get him to skimp on 1 or 2 mill. Nope, he gets the full max, and he gets to see his name listed as one of the leagues worst contracts for the next half decade running. Enjoy.

He and the Wizards both deserved better than this, but at least he has the money to console himself with, the wiz, and us fans are totally ----ed as per usual.

Good luck fellas, it's just not worth your or my time to pay attention to this beyond some rubber necking doom scrolling from time to time.

[The Consiglieri]

Your management should fast pedal Beal to LAkers for one year of westbrook..
Than trade porzingis for picks and expiring contract..that’s the only correct way out of this insanity
And who knows maybe you get lucky in the lottery next summer..

This is what those flucking morons want. They don't realize how incomprehensively moronic this decision was.

The worst part, I didn't realize this, like with Scumbag Snyder, Leonsis is freaking young. That moron is young, like 65. We could be dealing with this insanity till I'm flucking 60. Sonofa-----. What a nightmare. DC has two of the worst owners in all of American sports. One's a scumbag and an idiot, the other's just an idiot and they're both freaking young (for owners). Lovely.

If you'd told me as a teenager that ownership, freaking owners, would literally beat to death my fandom of half of my favorite sports teams growing up I would have told you you were nuts, and yet here we are, decades into Snyder destroying the redskins deader than the asteroid destroyed the dinosaurs when it hit the Yucatan, and decades into Leonsis figuring out ever newer and more creative ways to continue Wizards/Boulez total irrelevance.

Truly a nightmare.

[closg00]

Avery Johnson gently ripping the Wiz. For the first time in my life I am going be an active follower and participant on the boards of young teams that are about building a championship: Detroit, Houston, OKC, maybe more. I will rubberneck on the Wizards, but as an emotionally detached observer.

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...I was just talking about the Brunson / Gonzaga thing, not sure if what I bolded in the section of your post which I quoted was visible. I liked Dotson in his draft! Very much seemed to be one of those steady but undersized guards that fall in the draft but end up with a good shot at a productive role. I was happy to see we'd brought him in for SL.

Oh man... LOL! ...I did it again! Why do I want to rewrite Jalen Brunson's life, I wonder? Weird....

On Dotson -- yes, I'd say that's absolutely the right way to view him. I hope he winds up w/ a 2way & we see how he does on the GoGo.

[Eli Babak]

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He wouldn't be the franchise player in any other team. He did work hard for a few years but has been pretty awful these past few seasons. Or maybe not awful, but he's not a true leader or someone that can lead your team to success. Damn. **** Ted.

[Frichuela]

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He wouldn't be the franchise player in any other team. He did work hard for a few years but has been pretty awful these past few seasons. Or maybe not awful, but he's not a true leader or someone that can lead your team to success. Damn. **** Ted.

Let’s all raise our voices and shout f***** you Terd, you moron