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Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011

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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#521 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:15 pm

REDardWIZskin wrote:This draft is supposed to be weak but the more i look at it, i don't think it will be so bad. Its just the uncertainty of who will be able to play at the next level. This may have been the year to stockpile draft picks. If we can get two more in the first 40 picks i think we could really benefit from this class. The only way I see us getting screwed is if we pick later than 6 in the lotto. But we def need more picks though. I'm thinking 4 total. With a new GM picking hopefully.



I completely agree. There are a bunch of potential NBA stars likely to be available in the middle of the first... The two swingmen from Texas immediately come to mind.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#522 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 11, 2011 8:37 pm

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closg00 wrote:Top 15 Senior NBA Draft Prospects
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multim ... ent.1.html

Ernie likes developing athletic bigs.


Not to nitpick Ruz, but which of the athletic bigs drafted by Ernie has actually "developed?"

Pech -- no? Blatche? -- sort of, McGee -- maybe, Seraphin -- we'll see, Booker -- we'll see, Hamady -- we may never see.

That's whatImsayin - with the ing; not the ed - after develop.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#523 » by closg00 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:54 pm

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
Ruzious wrote:
closg00 wrote:Top 15 Senior NBA Draft Prospects
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multim ... ent.1.html

Ernie likes developing athletic bigs.


Not to nitpick Ruz, but which of the athletic bigs drafted by Ernie has actually "developed?"

Pech -- no? Blatche? -- sort of, McGee -- maybe, Seraphin -- we'll see, Booker -- we'll see, Hamady -- we may never see.


QFT, Ernie likes to draft bigs, finally (Thanks to Ted) he's getting one out of bench-warming duties (Hamady)
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#524 » by Spence » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:38 pm

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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#526 » by Jay81 » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:21 pm

Is Harrison barnes going to be a bust. He will probably be available for us but he looks limited athletically and has a hard time creating his own shot? He looks like an NBA role player at best. I've heard comparisons to paul pierce but I don't see it
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#527 » by Ruzious » Sat Feb 12, 2011 3:38 pm

Jay81 wrote:Is Harrison barnes going to be a bust. He will probably be available for us but he looks limited athletically and has a hard time creating his own shot? He looks like an NBA role player at best. I've heard comparisons to paul pierce but I don't see it

I don't see it, either, but he was under so much presure to perform so early that I'm not sure we've seen what he'll become. To me, he seems like he could be a decent starting 3 - nothing more, but we'll see. I still think he goes back to school for another year.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#528 » by theboomking » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:58 pm

Jay81 wrote:Is Harrison barnes going to be a bust. He will probably be available for us but he looks limited athletically and has a hard time creating his own shot? He looks like an NBA role player at best. I've heard comparisons to paul pierce but I don't see it


I think that at this point, Jordan Hamilton is the much better value. I'd love it if we could add Hamilton and a top PF to our roster. Is there any way we can add a late lotto pick without giving up Young?

I've got Baylor v Texas, Arizona v Arizona State, Kentucky, and Ohio State all set on the DVR. I'll post any updated impressions of Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, Jared Sullinger, Jordan Hamilton and Derrick Williams when I get a chance to watch them all.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#529 » by Ruzious » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:47 pm

Am I wrong in saying that if Wall had a bigger brother, I'd picture him as Jordan Hamilton? Hamilton is good but not great. His PPS (1.30) is still a bit low - mainly because he has games where he doesn't get to the line. He has been putting up nice rebounding numbers lately.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#530 » by Inliten1 » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:04 am

Jordan Hamilton is a nice prospect. One issue with him is his handles. Its not good enough for the 2 and his ability to guard 3s is questionable.

Trading down to the late lotto and picking up a mid round pick somehow would be more ideal than reaching for guys like Terrence Jones who are 3/4 s with say a 5 or 6 pick.

Picking up a couple of good prospects like Alec Burks and Tyler Honeycut may be better value.

Drafting another PF or C without trading away some of the ones we already have is a bad idea. There won't be enough minutes to see what any of them can really do. Booker and Serphine are still a mystery, adding a Derrik Williams, Sullinger, T.Jones, would just create a log jam with Blatche and McGee as the presumed starters.

Note: Perry Jones is the one guy I'd draft hands down.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#531 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sun Feb 13, 2011 1:36 am

BC's Reggie Jackson destroyed the Terps once again. Puts up some good numbers and is on the radar of NBA scouts.

Another promising ACC prospect went out with a broken foot, Chris Singleton.

Never heard of Norris Cole prior to today, but today's game automatically puts him in the phenom category: 41 points, 20 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals. :o
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#532 » by kirubel94 » Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:02 am

i dont care what league that cole guy is in thats amazing type of numbers!
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#533 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sun Feb 13, 2011 2:28 am

Ruzious wrote:[quote="long suffrin' boulez fan" 15 Senior NBA Draft Prospects
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multim ... ent.1.html

Ernie likes developing athletic bigs.

Not to nitpick Ruz, but which of the athletic bigs drafted by Ernie has actually "developed?"

Pech -- no? Blatche? -- sort of, McGee -- maybe, Seraphin -- we'll see, Booker -- we'll see, Hamady -- we may never see.

That's whatImsayin - with the ing; not the ed - after develop.[/quote][/quote]

I'm still confused. If you meant developing, athletic bigs, then I think I would agree.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#534 » by Ruzious » Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:33 am

long suffrin' boulez fan wrote:
Ruzious wrote:[quote="long suffrin' boulez fan" 15 Senior NBA Draft Prospects
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multim ... ent.1.html

Ernie likes developing athletic bigs.

Not to nitpick Ruz, but which of the athletic bigs drafted by Ernie has actually "developed?"

Pech -- no? Blatche? -- sort of, McGee -- maybe, Seraphin -- we'll see, Booker -- we'll see, Hamady -- we may never see.

That's whatImsayin - with the ing; not the ed - after develop.
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I'm still confused. If you meant developing, athletic bigs, then I think I would agree.[/quote]
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#535 » by Ruzious » Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:37 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:BC's Reggie Jackson destroyed the Terps once again. Puts up some good numbers and is on the radar of NBA scouts.

Another promising ACC prospect went out with a broken foot, Chris Singleton.

Never heard of Norris Cole prior to today, but today's game automatically puts him in the phenom category: 41 points, 20 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals. :o

Jackson's a pretty good player. I'm surprised he's not rated higher. The Terps guards usually play good defense, but for some reason they've done a lousy job covering him.

Singleton was dominating the game at the time. He's a fave of mine and especially Sev's.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#536 » by Severn Hoos » Sun Feb 13, 2011 4:43 am

Ruzious wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:BC's Reggie Jackson destroyed the Terps once again. Puts up some good numbers and is on the radar of NBA scouts.

Another promising ACC prospect went out with a broken foot, Chris Singleton.

Never heard of Norris Cole prior to today, but today's game automatically puts him in the phenom category: 41 points, 20 rebounds, 9 assists, 3 steals. :o

Jackson's a pretty good player. I'm surprised he's not rated higher. The Terps guards usually play good defense, but for some reason they've done a lousy job covering him.

Singleton was dominating the game at the time. He's a fave of mine and especially Sev's.


Yep, and this guarantees he won't sniff the Lottery. (Please understand - I'm not happy he's hurt, just pointing out that the chances of finding a way to add Singleton without giving up the top pick just went up.)

I've seen enough to be convinced that CS would be a great addition, so his recent offensive struggles and injury won't affect my evaluation of his prospects.

Hmm - whose pick could we snag in the 15-20 range? I'm offering Blatche and taking back an iffy contract. Indy? Portland? With Sloan gone, maybe Utah's now a possibility? (yeah, right)

And FWIW, I don't think you can blame Sullinger for today's loss. Seems like 3-point shooting defense was the Achilles heel for the Buckeyes today, so Sullinger will feel right at home on the Wiz!
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#537 » by BruceO » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:15 am

i like enes kanter and sullinger as pf's and would rank kanter higher if i saw him play well. dwill and perry jones have to prove they can play the 3. i like dwills ability to get to the line. if he can play 3 i'd draft him but would wait to see how much range he has, sullingers length and how good kanter is. perry jones needs to prove range as well he has hit tops one college 3. hes not my number 1 prospect as a big due to rebounding. also like burks, hamilton and fredette off the bench.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#538 » by BruceO » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:28 am

also forgot to say t jones is ideal at sf due to passing and rebounding. :e has to prove range to me though. also dwill and p jones have to show they dont check out as sf prospects. i wouldnt take them as pfs over kanter or sullinger. i dont know anything perry jones excells at and hes not a winner. hes not tmac or durant to me until he shows range. hes hit only one college 3 all season at most
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#539 » by BruceO » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:37 am

using cellphone hence multiple short posts. we shouldnt tank after this season otherwise our core which most will be intact will be losers. after this lets win and that will attract talent. when in a draft get multiple good players at more than cost cause it saves time spent tanking. im still on the cousins bandwagon and it still dissapoints me we didnt get him because everyone was blinded by wall. there were alternatives. nick, javale, blatche are better than wes, and turner who was drafted before cousins.
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Re: Chicken Littles: Sky done fell! Draft Thread 2011 

Post#540 » by BruceO » Sun Feb 13, 2011 11:44 am

last post. ccj and i insisted about cousins and even now some people will be pissed im bringing it up again. but we did say hes the real deal. his percentages sometimes are bad but hes outplayed the best frontcourts in the nba while wall is outplayed by almost everyone. pgs are a dime a dozen. we should have tried hard for cousins. hopefully his friendship with wall and blatche plus conflict with sac brings him here. trade multiple people for him. two turkeys dont equal an eagle.

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