2020 Draft

[SUPERBALLMAN]

If they take Stix I wouldn't be mad. Hes the type of player I want, a big man that would add some of what This team lacks. He needs to add lower body strength. I like other prospects more, but he could turn out to be better, you never know. I love the Terps so if that's what they do it's fine with me.

2/26 9pm Maryland vs Minnesota

Stix vs Oturu

Should be a good one see those 2 go at it !!

[No-Man]

If you end up with a 9-11 pick, my top guys that are possibly available and you will need to pick that high to guarantee getting them are;

Cole Anthony
Tyrese Maxey
Obi Toppin
Nico Mannion
Killian Hayes
Isaac Okoro

So basically all Guards, plus Toppin and Okoro
If you want production right away with some solid ceiling as an offensive big, Toppin is a really solid option imo in your range

I'd pick Cole if he really may slide to the end of the top10, otherwise Maxey

The only Center I'd consider is Okongwu and I'd still pass, this team needs a higher upside proposition, Carey, Oturu, Smith etc that high would be a gigantic disappointment/waste

[SUPERBALLMAN]

If you end up with a 9-11 pick, my top guys that are possibly available and you will need to pick that high to guarantee getting them are;

Cole Anthony
Tyrese Maxey
Obi Toppin
Nico Mannion
Killian Hayes
Isaac Okoro

So basically all Guards, plus Toppin and Okoro
If you want production right away with some solid ceiling as an offensive big, Toppin is a really solid option imo in your range

I'd pick Cole if he really may slide to the end of the top10, otherwise Maxey

The only Center I'd consider is Okongwu and I'd still pass, this team needs a higher upside proposition, Carey, Oturu, Smith etc that high would be a gigantic disappointment/waste

I’m pretty much the complete opposite from you on this. The exception is Okoro. He’s the only one I’m interested in that’s non-center. Maybe Josh Green. But Okoro brings a lot of the same things a center would in terms of defense and toughness. I do like him a lot.

I started my draft assessment dead set on point guard... I saw our biggest need there, and saw the strength of this draft there in terms of talent and depth.

But the more I’ve watched the PGs the less enchanted Ive become, and I’ve become convinced the center prospects in this draft is where we can really hit it big!

But the draft really is a crap shoot, so who knows... it will be fun to watch how things develop, March Madness, the combine and predraft workouts etc, and see what we end up doing! Most people are saying it’s a weak draft, but I think it’s great! There’s so much uncertainty it’s very exciting all the possibilities!

[Ruzious]

If you end up with a 9-11 pick, my top guys that are possibly available and you will need to pick that high to guarantee getting them are;

Cole Anthony
Tyrese Maxey
Obi Toppin
Nico Mannion
Killian Hayes
Isaac Okoro

So basically all Guards, plus Toppin and Okoro
If you want production right away with some solid ceiling as an offensive big, Toppin is a really solid option imo in your range

I'd pick Cole if he really may slide to the end of the top10, otherwise Maxey

The only Center I'd consider is Okongwu and I'd still pass, this team needs a higher upside proposition, Carey, Oturu, Smith etc that high would be a gigantic disappointment/waste

I’m pretty much the complete opposite from you on this. The exception is Okoro. He’s the only one I’m interested in that’s non-center. Maybe Josh Green. But Okoro brings a lot of the same things a center would in terms of defense and toughness. I do like him a lot.

I started my draft assessment dead set on point guard... I saw our biggest need there, and saw the strength of this draft there in terms of talent and depth.

But the more I’ve watched the PGs the less enchanted Ive become, and I’ve become convinced the center prospects in this draft is where we can really hit it big!

But the draft really is a crap shoot, so who knows... it will be fun to watch how things develop, March Madness, the combine and predraft workouts etc, and see what we end up doing! Most people are saying it’s a weak draft, but I think it’s great! There’s so much uncertainty it’s very exciting all the possibilities!

I usually say BPA, but the team so badly needs a high quality defensive big who can contribute offensively, and that's Okongwu. And yes, I'm comfortable with his offensive potential. Topin's defense makes him a no. I think Hayes will be the BPA - if he's there, so I'd have no problem if he's the pick - especially if they get Tillman in the 2nd round. No chance I go with Cole Anthony.

[gambitx777]

Okongwu vs Oturu I'm taking Oturu. I like his game better and he has a better upside and to me I think you give that kid a few mill and put him next to hard workers like we have here he's gonna shine.

To me we need a to upgrade our D upfront. There are a lot of wings and guards late in the draft. and those arnt imidiate needs. Personally I say you try to flip Bryant , maybe Robin's or admiral and get you a mid 20s late teen pick. If you are dead set on getting a more we'll rounded big in the draft. Mo has proven he can hang at this level and he's good on offence life Bryant but has better foot work and potential on the D end. Bryant over all is the better player and has more upside if it clicks on D for him. But that's why you can get more out of him in a trade .

If you end up with a 9-11 pick, my top guys that are possibly available and you will need to pick that high to guarantee getting them are;

Cole Anthony
Tyrese Maxey
Obi Toppin
Nico Mannion
Killian Hayes
Isaac Okoro

So basically all Guards, plus Toppin and Okoro
If you want production right away with some solid ceiling as an offensive big, Toppin is a really solid option imo in your range

I'd pick Cole if he really may slide to the end of the top10, otherwise Maxey

The only Center I'd consider is Okongwu and I'd still pass, this team needs a higher upside proposition, Carey, Oturu, Smith etc that high would be a gigantic disappointment/waste

I’m pretty much the complete opposite from you on this. The exception is Okoro. He’s the only one I’m interested in that’s non-center. Maybe Josh Green. But Okoro brings a lot of the same things a center would in terms of defense and toughness. I do like him a lot.

I started my draft assessment dead set on point guard... I saw our biggest need there, and saw the strength of this draft there in terms of talent and depth.

But the more I’ve watched the PGs the less enchanted Ive become, and I’ve become convinced the center prospects in this draft is where we can really hit it big!

But the draft really is a crap shoot, so who knows... it will be fun to watch how things develop, March Madness, the combine and predraft workouts etc, and see what we end up doing! Most people are saying it’s a weak draft, but I think it’s great! There’s so much uncertainty it’s very exciting all the possibilities!

I usually say BPA, but the team so badly needs a high quality defensive big who can contribute offensively, and that's Okongwu. And yes, I'm comfortable with his offensive potential. Topin's defense makes him a no. I think Hayes will be the BPA - if he's there, so I'd have no problem if he's the pick - especially if they get Tillman in the 2nd round. No chance I go with Cole Anthony.

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[No-Man]

I really don't get it with Oturu, he is close to a non prospect to me, I'd be fine with him in the 2nd but his instincts and lack of physicality really trouble me

[payitforward]

I really don't get it with Oturu, he is close to a non prospect to me, I'd be fine with him in the 2nd but his instincts and lack of physicality really trouble me

& I don't get it with Mannion -- his numbers are absolutely terrible. They're going to get better against NBA players?

[Ruzious]

On Oturu vs Okongwu, Oturu might be taller and a hair more athletic, but Okongwu has a special ability to see where the ball's going before other players do. You can see it on film - he's cutting for the rebound or block shot before anyone else. I don't see that with Oturu. Another problem I see with Oturu that I've seen in so many overrated bigs - he's so deliberate with the ball in his hands. It's going to lead to too many to's in the NBA. Just double him, and he'll turn it over because he's not a good passer. Even in college, he's got nearly 3 to's to every assist.

[gambitx777]

Some draft boards have him at 28 , second round and others have him top ten? He works hard rebounds well, blocks shots and he has good tools on offence .

I really don't get it with Oturu, he is close to a non prospect to me, I'd be fine with him in the 2nd but his instincts and lack of physicality really trouble me

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[No-Man]

To me Oturu is a bit like Thomas Bryant, has better mobility, but not a ton, and less size, bit more athletic but less motor, kinda meh bigs, I don't see Oturu shooting it as well as Bryant but he could get there

He is just a guy, drafting him that high would be a massive mistake

I am not that high on Nico but it is difficult to find someone to put over him, I have him in the late lotto range right now

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Wednesday night... No Wizards game.

9pm

ESPN Duke vs NC State

Vernon Carey Jr. + Cassius Stanley + Tre Jones

7pm

ESPN2 Auburn vs Georgia

Anthony Edwards vs Isaac Okoro


These games are like watching pre-draft workouts !!

Tonight !!

[Ruzious]

Wednesday night... No Wizards game.

9pm

ESPN Duke vs NC State

Vernon Carey Jr. + Cassius Stanley + Tre Jones

7pm

ESPN2 Auburn vs Georgia

Anthony Edwards vs Isaac Okoro


These games are like watching pre-draft workouts !!

Tonight !!

If any of the wings there could shoot 3's with any consistency, I'd feel better about them.

[payitforward]

To me Oturu is a bit like Thomas Bryant, has better mobility, but not a ton, and less size, bit more athletic but less motor, kinda meh bigs, I don't see Oturu shooting it as well as Bryant but he could get there

He is just a guy, drafting him that high would be a massive mistake

I am not that high on Nico but it is difficult to find someone to put over him, I have him in the late lotto range right now

Bryant is a "meh big," & it's "difficult to find someone to put over" Mannion....

May I ask -- respectfully -- do you look at numbers? Or do you work off your version of "the eye test?" Because Mannion's numbers are absolutely horrible, I mean about as bad as they could be. &, on the other hand, last year Thomas Bryant's numbers were tremendous.

Again, that's simple curiosity -- not a challenge.

[gambitx777]

Can you imagine if we win the loto even at 3 and we could land Wiseman!

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[pcbothwel]

Can you imagine if we win the loto even at 3 and we could land Wiseman!

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Wiseman is NOT a great prospect. He is not Ayton, Jackson, or Embiid... He is somewhere between Jaxson Hayes and Mo Bamba, not someone I think puts you over the top and gets me excited in the top 3. Okungwu is a better prospect and has FAR better basketball instincts.

My excitement about getting 2/3 (Wiseman) would be to trade him. Move from 2 to 4/5 (TWolves) for the Brooklyn pick and a 2022 2nd.
Draft Hayes or Haliburton at 4/5 and BPA at 16.

[payitforward]

Can you imagine if we win the loto even at 3 and we could land Wiseman!

Wiseman is NOT a great prospect. He is not Ayton, Jackson, or Embiid... He is somewhere between Jaxson Hayes and Mo Bamba, not someone I think puts you over the top and gets me excited in the top 3. Okungwu is a better prospect and has FAR better basketball instincts.

My excitement about getting 2/3 (Wiseman) would be to trade him. Move from 2 to 4/5 (TWolves) for the Brooklyn pick and a 2022 2nd.
Draft Hayes or Haliburton at 4/5 and BPA at 16.

Well, no kidding!

If the #2 pick got you the #5 pick & the #16 pick (where Brooklyn's pick sits right now) & a high R2 pick in '22 (or any year -- but especially that one!), we'd be wise to make the trade pretty much every single year! Wiseman being as good a prospect as Ayton sure wouldn't stop me. He'd have to be a consensus lock superstar (in which case, there'd have to be 2 of them that year -- otherwise, he goes #1 not #2).

Using Pelton's chart as a guide, the #2 pick would be more likely to get you the #5 pick & the #22 pick.

If it's the #3 pick you're trading, that would get you the #5 & maybe the #30.

If you need the #4, then the #3 pick would get you that & #37-38.

Of course, Pelton might be wrong. If so... maybe I'm over-estimating what you'd get?

[Shoe]

Can you imagine if we win the loto even at 3 and we could land Wiseman!

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Wiseman is NOT a great prospect. He is not Ayton, Jackson, or Embiid... He is somewhere between Jaxson Hayes and Mo Bamba, not someone I think puts you over the top and gets me excited in the top 3. Okungwu is a better prospect and has FAR better basketball instincts.

My excitement about getting 2/3 (Wiseman) would be to trade him. Move from 2 to 4/5 (TWolves) for the Brooklyn pick and a 2022 2nd.
Draft Hayes or Haliburton at 4/5 and BPA at 16.

I cannot agree. Who are the best 5's that are 6'9? Wisemans frame is better than Jax Hayes and Bamba. Okongwu looks more like an Ibaka, where you still need a 7'0 Gasol for long stretches. Only concern with Wiseman is whether he loves basketball. If Aznejs Pasecniks was 6'9 he couldn't play a second in the NBA that's how much those extra inches can elevate a player.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

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[SUPERBALLMAN]

Wednesday night... No Wizards game.

9pm

ESPN Duke vs NC State

Vernon Carey Jr. + Cassius Stanley + Tre Jones

7pm

ESPN2 Auburn vs Georgia

Anthony Edwards vs Isaac Okoro


These games are like watching pre-draft workouts !!

Tonight !!

Okoro didn’t play.

Duke lost 88-66... CAREY had 27 & 12 + 3 blocks

[gambitx777]

I actually like Wiseman. He has a good frame. Also my dream situation would be we get number one , trade back to 4 or 5 and Wiseman falls some how and we take him at 5 and get the extra assets.

Can you imagine if we win the loto even at 3 and we could land Wiseman!

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Wiseman is NOT a great prospect. He is not Ayton, Jackson, or Embiid... He is somewhere between Jaxson Hayes and Mo Bamba, not someone I think puts you over the top and gets me excited in the top 3. Okungwu is a better prospect and has FAR better basketball instincts.

My excitement about getting 2/3 (Wiseman) would be to trade him. Move from 2 to 4/5 (TWolves) for the Brooklyn pick and a 2022 2nd.
Draft Hayes or Haliburton at 4/5 and BPA at 16.

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