Political Roundtable Part XXX

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Howard Zen ...that's not how you spell his last name... was an author who wrote a boo

Is a history of America

Might not be the exact title.. Tremendous book that I think everyone should be required to read but because we like device witnesses stupidity in our country device of miss device witness **** this computer

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Division

Divisor

Divisiveness

Our country I believe is under a curse by God himself. Or herself or herself. Damn Google Translate had to say that twice

To complete my thought and to get out seemingly coherent I will say that those 2 books are how I formulate my opinions. The one by Jimmy Carter and the 1 by howards Inn

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

A People's History of the United States is a 1980 nonfiction book by American historian and political scientist Howard Zinn. In the book, Zinn presented what he considered to be a different side of history from the more traditional "fundamental nationalist glorification of country".[1] 

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[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Our_Endangered_Values/axnUoH_r5tsC?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

payitforward and doclinkin,

I gave a book away.

I've only spoked to one POTUS.

I gave the book to a preacher man who I later GOT SICK OF HIS CHURCH as I was going through my second divorce. Army female. Army active duty pastor and lots of them dudes knew HER side of her backside from when they did PT

I look back on the years prior to NEVER SEEING MY CHILDREN AGAIN and NEVER working as an educator again (2013/14-Present)... The past 7/8 years...

Lots of ups and downs but

I AM STILL HERE

I'm wearing my bifocals and TYPING AT JBPHH Library's DESKTOP computer. Imagine that, on a Tuesday night; as I've done the past several years from time to time.

ROUTINE

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Publisher's Summary

https://www.audible.com/pd/Our-Endangered-Values-Audiobook/B002V0Q6CI?source_code=GPAGBSH0508140001&ipRedirectOverride=true&gclid=CjwKCAjwn8SLBhAyEiwAHNTJbV_kET1enI1vx2osnYNU3quFl0liB9j5VklTJvXFscirgXyrcI42ahoC2lsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

President Carter has written importantly about his spiritual life and faith. In Living Faith, a huge best seller, he recounted the values and experiences that shaped his personal and political life. In his companion book Sources of Strength, also a best seller, he meditated on fifty-two of the favorite Bible lessons he has taught.
In Our Endangered Values, Carter offers a personal consideration of "moral values" as they relate to the important issues of the day. He puts forward a passionate defense of separation of church and state, and a strong warning of where the country is heading as the lines between politics and rigid religious fundamentalism are blurred.

Now, he describes his own involvement and reactions to some disturbing societal trends that have taken place during the last few years. These changes involve both the religious and the political worlds as they have increasingly become intertwined, and include some of the most crucial and controversial issues of the day, frequently encapsulated under "moral values".

Many of these matters are under fierce debate. They include preemptive war, women's rights, terrorism, civil liberties, homosexuality, abortion, the death penalty, science and religion, environmental degradation, nuclear arsenals, America's global image, fundamentalism, and the melding of religion and politics.

Sustained by his lifelong faith, Jimmy Carter assesses these issues in a forceful and unequivocal but balanced and courageous way. Our Endangered Values is a book that his millions of readers have eagerly awaited.

©2005 Jimmy Carter (P)2005 Simon & Schuster Inc. All rights reserved.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I don't do politics but that was PREDICTED.

JC saw this coming 10-15 years before Trump's response to the Obama years.

Jimmy KNEW about Iraq, Afghanistan, and other places like Korea (where I spent a year of my previous life).

HE Still knows ABOUT CONFLICT RESOLUTION, AND HUMANITARIANISM

But folks do NOT want wise elders running ****. NOPE. THEY WANT TAKEOVERS like the Capitol riot.

Biden wanted so badly to be THE MAN while Barack was POTUS that now his old ass is.

(CARTER SAYS NOBODY OVER A CERTAIN AGE SHOULD BE POTUS )

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

DO NOT READ THAT CARTER BOOK ..based on your feelings about the Carter years.

DONT take my word about it making all the damned sense in the Mother F N world.

[bsilver]

Enes Kanter just sparked an uproar in China, calling for a free Tibet and calling their president a brutal dictator. So far, haven't comments from Lebron James, Charles Barkley and others who criticized Daryl Morey for comments about China's human rights policies.

Hopefully they've learned a lesson. You can't only be for human rights in the United States, and only be concerned if it doesn't affect your wealth.

[pancakes3]

what's the lesson? what are the consequences?

[bsilver]

what's the lesson? what are the consequences?

Before George Floyd, there was not much support from the white population for issues such as police reform. I can't say much has really changed, but there is a lot more awareness of the issues among mainstream whites. The lesson is that if we stick together on human rights issues, there will at least be a chance for change. Will anything change in China? Of course not, but at least they will know they can't buy our silence.

Unfortunately, there are few consequences for bad behavior. Hardly anyone cares about Lebron's views on China. Police reform will not get far due to total obstruction by Republicans, but a few of the worst police will go to jail. China will do whatever it pleases.

[popper]

what's the lesson? what are the consequences?

Before George Floyd, there was not much support from the white population for issues such as police reform. I can't say much has really changed, but there is a lot more awareness of the issues among mainstream whites. The lesson is that if we stick together on human rights issues, there will at least be a chance for change. Will anything change in China? Of course not, but at least they will know they can't buy our silence.

Unfortunately, there are few consequences for bad behavior. Hardly anyone cares about Lebron's views on China. Police reform will not get far due to total obstruction by Republicans, but a few of the worst police will go to jail. China will do whatever it pleases.

I don't think R's have anything to do with defining the policies under which police departments in most state and municipal jurisdictions controlled by D's operate (where majority of crimes take place.) They are free to do as they wish for the most part. Defund, dismantle, etc.

[Zonkerbl]

what's the lesson? what are the consequences?

Before George Floyd, there was not much support from the white population for issues such as police reform. I can't say much has really changed, but there is a lot more awareness of the issues among mainstream whites. The lesson is that if we stick together on human rights issues, there will at least be a chance for change. Will anything change in China? Of course not, but at least they will know they can't buy our silence.

Unfortunately, there are few consequences for bad behavior. Hardly anyone cares about Lebron's views on China. Police reform will not get far due to total obstruction by Republicans, but a few of the worst police will go to jail. China will do whatever it pleases.

I don't think R's have anything to do with defining the policies under which police departments in most state and municipal jurisdictions controlled by D's operate (where majority of crimes take place.) They are free to do as they wish for the most part. Defund, dismantle, etc.

It's the unspoken painful secret of the Democratic party, the large majority of them are white people who are racist as eff. They're the one's who gave the instructions to the cops to persecute black people. That's why they flip out when black people talk about abolishing the police.

[popper]

Before George Floyd, there was not much support from the white population for issues such as police reform. I can't say much has really changed, but there is a lot more awareness of the issues among mainstream whites. The lesson is that if we stick together on human rights issues, there will at least be a chance for change. Will anything change in China? Of course not, but at least they will know they can't buy our silence.

Unfortunately, there are few consequences for bad behavior. Hardly anyone cares about Lebron's views on China. Police reform will not get far due to total obstruction by Republicans, but a few of the worst police will go to jail. China will do whatever it pleases.

I don't think R's have anything to do with defining the policies under which police departments in most state and municipal jurisdictions controlled by D's operate (where majority of crimes take place.) They are free to do as they wish for the most part. Defund, dismantle, etc.

It's the unspoken painful secret of the Democratic party, the large majority of them are white people who are racist as eff. They're the one's who gave the instructions to the cops to persecute black people. That's why they flip out when black people talk about abolishing the police.

And that is the truth. Thank you Zonk

[Zonkerbl]

omg popper and I agree on something!!!

It's really frustrating to watch the Dems basically spit on the black vote every two years. And they get away with it because the alternative is so much worse.

Republicans have a radical right wing base that they are absolutely terrified of and cater to them every chance they get. The Democrats' base is the black vote - and they treat them like dirt. Like, what the heck. And then we complain that the Republicans get elected despite being obviously racist. Ok well... address the beam in your own eye first

[dobrojim]

Howard Zen ...that's not how you spell his last name... was an author who wrote a boo

Is a history of America

Might not be the exact title.. Tremendous book that I think everyone should be required to read but because we like device witnesses stupidity in our country device of miss device witness **** this computer

Google translator is deviced DEV ISI VE device O This **** translator is so Japanese it does not understand the word devicive

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People's History of US. Lots of folks could learn something from reading this book.

[dobrojim]

what's the lesson? what are the consequences?

Before George Floyd, there was not much support from the white population for issues such as police reform. I can't say much has really changed, but there is a lot more awareness of the issues among mainstream whites. The lesson is that if we stick together on human rights issues, there will at least be a chance for change. Will anything change in China? Of course not, but at least they will know they can't buy our silence.

Unfortunately, there are few consequences for bad behavior. Hardly anyone cares about Lebron's views on China. Police reform will not get far due to total obstruction by Republicans, but a few of the worst police will go to jail. China will do whatever it pleases.

I don't think R's have anything to do with defining the policies under which police departments in most state and municipal jurisdictions controlled by D's operate (where majority of crimes take place.) They are free to do as they wish for the most part. Defund, dismantle, etc.

Neither party really wants to take on the police and the unions that protect them.

[bsilver]

what's the lesson? what are the consequences?

Before George Floyd, there was not much support from the white population for issues such as police reform. I can't say much has really changed, but there is a lot more awareness of the issues among mainstream whites. The lesson is that if we stick together on human rights issues, there will at least be a chance for change. Will anything change in China? Of course not, but at least they will know they can't buy our silence.

Unfortunately, there are few consequences for bad behavior. Hardly anyone cares about Lebron's views on China. Police reform will not get far due to total obstruction by Republicans, but a few of the worst police will go to jail. China will do whatever it pleases.

I don't think R's have anything to do with defining the policies under which police departments in most state and municipal jurisdictions controlled by D's operate (where majority of crimes take place.) They are free to do as they wish for the most part. Defund, dismantle, etc.

For the most part you're right. Republicans in the Senate have stalled any progress on police reform. However, if a law is passed it will apply mostly to federal police.

[bsilver]

Before George Floyd, there was not much support from the white population for issues such as police reform. I can't say much has really changed, but there is a lot more awareness of the issues among mainstream whites. The lesson is that if we stick together on human rights issues, there will at least be a chance for change. Will anything change in China? Of course not, but at least they will know they can't buy our silence.

Unfortunately, there are few consequences for bad behavior. Hardly anyone cares about Lebron's views on China. Police reform will not get far due to total obstruction by Republicans, but a few of the worst police will go to jail. China will do whatever it pleases.

I don't think R's have anything to do with defining the policies under which police departments in most state and municipal jurisdictions controlled by D's operate (where majority of crimes take place.) They are free to do as they wish for the most part. Defund, dismantle, etc.

It's the unspoken painful secret of the Democratic party, the large majority of them are white people who are racist as eff. They're the one's who gave the instructions to the cops to persecute black people. That's why they flip out when black people talk about abolishing the police.

What's the source of your claim that most white democrats are racist? And what do you mean by racist? If a white gets nervous when approaching a group of black men, that's certainly a racist reaction, but does that really make a difference if they support policies that benefit blacks and other minority groups. There's degrees of racism, and making blanket claims does nothing to improve the situation in the US.

And why use terms like "flip out"? It's certainly reasonable to question defunding the police. It's not a racist position. There are many alternatives for police reform that could be effective. Defunding the police is not going to happen, so it's best to consider options that are realistic and effective.

[Zonkerbl]

:looks at camera: