Official Trade Thread XVIII: 1/20/12 - 5/14/12

[Nivek]

This has got to be false, doesnt it?

anyway, a Portland radio report -- relayed by a Phoenix sports-talk radio guy -- had the Lakers sending the aforementioned Fisher and Artest to the Washington Wizards, the Wiz unloading Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee on the Suns, and the Suns whisking Nash to Hollywood. I suppose Phoenix also would land one of those L.A. draft picks.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1059 ... steve-nash

You gotta think Phoenix could get more for Steve Nash than Blatche, McGee and a pick.

[dlts20]

This has got to be false, doesnt it?

anyway, a Portland radio report -- relayed by a Phoenix sports-talk radio guy -- had the Lakers sending the aforementioned Fisher and Artest to the Washington Wizards, the Wiz unloading Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee on the Suns, and the Suns whisking Nash to Hollywood. I suppose Phoenix also would land one of those L.A. draft picks.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1059 ... steve-nash

You gotta think Phoenix could get more for Steve Nash than Blatche, McGee and a pick.

IDK about that. He is 100 years old, on the downside, and in the final year of his contract.

[Ruzious]

The market for 38 year old point guards probably isn't real high.

I think the Lakers respect Fisher too much to trade him to Washington - even if he can't play anymore. Maybe it would be one of those wink deals where the Wiz agree to cut him, and he goes back to LA fr the minimum. If I needed one final reason to stop watching the Zards, it might be them acquiring Meta Clown Artest.

[Nivek]

Downside? Nash is posting the highest PER of his career so far this season. His efg is .619 -- highest of his career. Assist rate is 57.0 -- highest of his career.

His turnovers are up a little, but his ortg is 118 -- an outstanding number that's right in line with the rest of his career.

I understand that he's 37 years old and that he doesn't have many years left, but he's performing at a very high level this season. He could help a good team a lot for the next couple seasons. I still think they gotta be able to get more than Blatche, a crummy first round pick, and first crack at re-signing McGee in the offseason. That's pretty close to a "dump" trade, and he's worth more than that.

[Ruzious]

Nash may be no Jeremy Lin, but he can still play a little.

[llcc25]

While we're on Nash, if I were PHX or NY, I think a deal that works for both teams is Nash and Filler to NY for Carmelo. Nash is better fit for NY alongside Amare and Chandler and would be great mentor for Lin. PHX atleast gets the most value back for an aging 37 year old by getting Carmelo, although he would be pisssed...

[dlts20]

While we're on Nash, if I were PHX or NY, I think a deal that works for both teams is Nash and Filler to NY for Carmelo. Nash is better fit for NY alongside Amare and Chandler and would be great mentor for Lin. PHX atleast gets the most value back for an aging 37 year old by getting Carmelo, although he would be pisssed...

no way. A prime Melo for a 37yo PG who would be in basically the same situation he is in now because they wouldnt have a Melo. That team wouldnt go anywhere. NY also probably thinks Melo & Stat will look 10x better if Lin is even a solid PG and even if he's not, then NY would just get rid of D'Antoni instead of getting rid of Melo

[theboomking]

So what is the consensus on what we can get for NY and McGee before the trade deadline?

[LyricalRico]

This has got to be false, doesnt it?

anyway, a Portland radio report -- relayed by a Phoenix sports-talk radio guy -- had the Lakers sending the aforementioned Fisher and Artest to the Washington Wizards, the Wiz unloading Andray Blatche and JaVale McGee on the Suns, and the Suns whisking Nash to Hollywood. I suppose Phoenix also would land one of those L.A. draft picks.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1059 ... steve-nash

You gotta think Phoenix could get more for Steve Nash than Blatche, McGee and a pick.

And if PHX really did want that package, why wouldn't we just trade for Nash ourselves and then flip him to a contender? I'm all for trading McGee, but not for Fisher+Metta.

[jivelikenice]

Awful deal for us. Again, you don't just give away McGee just to unload Dray's contract when we have the ability to amnesty! Ridiculous

[nate33]

And if PHX really did want that package, why wouldn't we just trade for Nash ourselves and then flip him to a contender? I'm all for trading McGee, but not for Fisher+Metta.

I was going to say the same thing. Hell, we could even keep Nash and it would be better than this trade. At least Nash's contract expires this summer.

There just isn't a logical reason for us to be involved in this, unless there's more to it.

[Benjammin]

And if PHX really did want that package, why wouldn't we just trade for Nash ourselves and then flip him to a contender? I'm all for trading McGee, but not for Fisher+Metta.

I was going to say the same thing. Hell, we could even keep Nash and it would be better than this trade. At least Nash's contract expires this summer.

There just isn't a logical reason for us to be involved in this, unless there's more to it.

Logical reason? Try EFG. Otherwise, no. Seriously, this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

[miller31time]

I'd love to be "Mr. Big Talker" and firmly say that, after that abomination of a trade, I'd actually give up investing time in this team.

But I'd be lying.

miller the masochist.

[TGW]

How about McGee for Faried and Mozgov? Would Denver consider it?

[LyricalRico]

How about McGee for Faried and Mozgov? Would Denver consider it?

Not really feeeling that from either side. I dunno that DEN wants to pay McGee. Also, I'm not as high on Faried as some here.

So what is the consensus on what we can get for NY and McGee before the trade deadline?

Wishful thinking, but I'd still like us to take a run at Derrick Williams. He's already complaining about playing time, we know Minny needs a center, and Adelman is finishing games with 3 PGs because they don't have much on the wings.

McGee+Young+Turiaf+filler for DWill+Darko+Ridnour is interesting IMO.

The Wolves would have to pay to re-sign McGee (and Young if they chose) but that cost is mitigated by us taking Darko and Ridnour off their cap. Yet we can stil amnesty Lewis and get max cap room, and Darko+Ridnour come off the cap when Wall's extension would kick in. Not to mention a stud PF prospect.

[tontoz]

we know Minny needs a center, .

Not really. Pekovic has a PER of 21. He has been strong lately.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

How about McGee for Faried and Mozgov? Would Denver consider it?

Not really feeeling that from either side. I dunno that DEN wants to pay McGee. Also, I'm not as high on Faried as some here.

Not so high on Faried, LR?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... eke01.html

Per-36 minutes: 16.8 points, 15.6 rebounds, 4.8 blocks
PER: 23.1

I don't want to go too far out and a limb, but Kenneth Faried might be pretty good with playing time .



(That guy is so much better than Singleton and Booker is isn't even close. Said so before the draft and I know so now.)

[Nivek]

Very limited playing time for Faried so far, BUT four years of progressive improvement in college, AND rebounding translates to the NBA. Guys who can board in college can board in the NBA. I'd like to see him get more minutes.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The reason I was pretty sure about Faried was that in addition to his rebounding he was the NCAAs most prolific finisher. I cannot quickly locate the source info, but as I recall, when Faried became a senior his FG% went up. He was over 60% and had a ridiculous percentage at or near the rim.

What that told me is not only would Faried rebound at next level, but he can also score very efficiently and effectively off of a couple moves.

Faried is a ferocious open court dunker.

[FAH1223]

Faried is kinda stuffed there with all the bigs the Nuggets have