Official Thread - Wizards vs Pacers (5/11/14)

[dlts20]

I was biting my tongue but I need to say this:

There are some posters on this board (you know who are) that vehemently argued with me that John Wall > Gilbert Arenas.

Still think that now?


Say what you want about Arenas, whether he was 15-20 or 0-20, he NEVER ran away from the spotlight.

And never lost his aggressiveness......



John Wall LITERALLY ran away from the ball.


Think about that for a moment.....

but I keep comparing Wall to Gil. That 1st year we went to the playoffs, Gil carried us all year and was burnt out by the playoffs. After being used to all those games, meaningful games, and playoffs intensity he was great in the playoffs after that. Wall will be great in the playoffs after this year. Again, this is not a playoffs thing. He started fading with 5 games left in the year. Burnt out or something

[barelyawake]

That was the most heart-breaking experience I've ever felt in sports. I don't even know what to do right now.

Either force management to get another superstar so the refs will allow us to win, or start watching hockey where the game isn't rigged. Those are really your choices (and always have been).

[P'Oed]

Game turned when Beal blew an uncontested layup in the fourth that could've pushed the lead to 11. George hit a 3 right after that. You can put the game on Wall but I can only think that 3 years from now we'll be glad he went through this. Just glad this wasn't another year that Wall-Beal were watching the playoffs from the couch. Next year is gonna reveal a lot about BOTH of those guys and my prediction is they'll make huge advancements in their games because they got to play at the highest level of competitive basketball. A lot of decisions to make but good to know that we'll be watching both of those guys for a long time.

Losing SUCKS but how awesome is it to see a pumped up crowd cheering for the WIZARDS again? It's been too long.

[keynote]

I was biting my tongue but I need to say this:

There are some posters on this board (you know who are) that vehemently argued with me that John Wall > Gilbert Arenas.

Still think that now?


Say what you want about Arenas, whether he was 15-20 or 0-20, he NEVER ran away from the spotlight.

And never lost his aggressiveness......



John Wall LITERALLY ran away from the ball.


Think about that for a moment.....

Do you think Witt's play called for Wall to run to the ball, and Wall said "screw that, I'm scared; I'm running the other way"? Or, conversely, if Wittman's play called for Wall to cut away from the ball, do you think that Wall should've said "screw that, I'm calling an audible" and throw off the play's spacing?

Wall played like crap in the 4Q. So did every other starter. Comparisons between him and Arenas are useless; who cares?

[dlts20]

i still disagree with everyone saying the Pacers are better. We were still up 19 and you could argue that we win with Miller. They are better then us because Wall is playing like the worst player in the league. If he's average then we are up 3-1 or atleast 2-2 no matter how bad other guys are playing. Thats the whole series. Wall has lost more and more confidence by the game, by the play. They needed 39 from PG tonight. Him and Wall came out hte same year. He gets 39 and Wall was like a minus 39 and they barely win. Thats the problem

[tontoz]

Wall sucked but so did Nene. Those two cost us the game.

[miller31time]

I was biting my tongue but I need to say this:

There are some posters on this board (you know who are) that vehemently argued with me that John Wall > Gilbert Arenas.

Still think that now?


Say what you want about Arenas, whether he was 15-20 or 0-20, he NEVER ran away from the spotlight.

And never lost his aggressiveness......



John Wall LITERALLY ran away from the ball.


Think about that for a moment.....

I love myself some John Wall but a prime Gilbert Arenas was in a different stratosphere. You could make a case that he was the best offensive player in the league. Clutch and ferocious - two things you cannot say about John right now. Maybe he'll get better in these aspects in time, though.

[causticcretin]

I was so excited to even make the second round and the team had exceeded expectations from there.

It was a nice week or so of actually seeing people wearing Wizards gear out in public --- as fans and not ironically -- that it seemed like there was a chance for it to catch on and that maybe #SoWizards could possibly be a mantra of winning rather than regular embarrassment and disappointment.

They need to win the next game - not to necessarily win the series but to just take some pride in the team for the fans to keep for the next 6 months.

[bealwithit]

Nevermind I'm back I'm over it lol
All I can say is we have good things ahead of us for the next 10 years with Wall and Beal despite some struggles in this series against a much more experienced, overall BETTER team
3-1... we can still win lol

[miller31time]

Wall sucked but so did Nene. Those two cost us the game.

Don't forget about Gortat's no-show. He's been so bad that we had to go to the AARP Club for the majority of the game.

[dlts20]

Wall sucked but so did Nene. Those two cost us the game.

and Gortat. Only starters who played well were Beal & Ariza and then Beal sucked after the injury

[keynote]

Ariza did *not* play well. He let George get an easy 39 points, and had his share of poor offensive plays.

Beal was the only starter who had at least an average game.

[popper]

Wizards coaching sucks. The entire world sucks. I'm taking the gas pipe. It was nice knowing you guys.

[LPHotspur]

This is one of those games where you can't just point to only one reason why they lost. Everything contributed to this loss. Everything from missing free throws, just flat out choking under pressure, Wall playing bad, Nene not doing it, the refs showing why people think the NBA is at least somewhat rigged, maybe some coaching mistakes, the Pacers being good when it counts, etc. Still going to be proud of the team no matter what. I said I'd feel ok if they didn't get swept.

Now though, it's time for the next step. My leash on Wall extends into next year. It'll be interesting to see if they learn from these experiences. It'll be interesting to see if we're in the playoffs next year and if Wall plays better. If he doesn't, I'll be thinking we need something more. I kind of already do. Good year though. I'm starting to think that the future success of our team doesn't just depend on if Wall gets better. It may depend equally if not MORE on how much better Beal gets.

[causticcretin]

Losing SUCKS but how awesome is it to see a pumped up crowd cheering for the WIZARDS again? It's been too long.

I would've agreed with this - except the crowd was still lacking: Look back at when Paul George was at the line to take 2 FTs to potentially take the lead for the first time since the 2Q with about 2 minutes left in the game.

You'd expect to have trouble hearing the announcers gush about Paul George over the crowd noise since it was such a pivotal point in the game to potentially take the lead with Wizards up 89-88. I mean, this is a MUST WIN game, right!?

Nope.

Not in DC -- not unless they're giving away free chicken or something.

#SoWizardsFans

[dlts20]

This is one of those games where you can't just point to only one reason why they lost. Everything contributed to this loss. Everything from missing free throws, just flat out choking under pressure, Wall playing bad, Nene not doing it, the refs showing why people think the NBA is at least somewhat rigged, maybe some coaching mistakes, the Pacers being good when it counts, etc. Still going to be proud of the team no matter what. I said I'd feel ok if they didn't get swept.

Now though, it's time for the next step. My leash on Wall extends into next year. It'll be interesting to see if they learn from these experiences. It'll be interesting to see if we're in the playoffs next year and if Wall plays better. If he doesn't, I'll be thinking we need something more. I kind of already do. Good year though.

alot of reasons but in basketball, your franchise player has to be great. Witt is a subpar coach and those other guys are role players to second fiddles. Wall is the star so he is the main reason for this loss by far to me but unlike others, I truly have no worries about Wall's future. I still say this is just like Gil being burnt out during our 1st playoff run. He carried us all year, is not use to playing this many games, had no backup for over half the season, didnt miss any games, had to create for everyone all year, Beal sucked most of the year, Nene was hurt, Wall has never played meaningful games, and never been to the show. He's just burnt out if you ask me, right at the worst time.

Again, I would call this a choke job or say that he sucks if it started during the playoffs but he lost his stroke at the end of the season with 5 games to go and hasnt shot good for a whole game since. I have no doubt he'll beast next playoffs and anytime after. I think he's burnt out. I was hoping for a 2nd wind and still hold out slight hope because if good Wall shows up then I still think we can win 3 straight but thats just hope. He'll be fine after this though. Still, I really hate this system. I wouldnt bring back Witt or pay Gortat alot of money but thats me. Get a new system and a stretch big

[GhostsOfGil]

Sad.

[SizzlinSimms]

This really hurt. Well here's hoping for miracles for 3 straight games.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I was biting my tongue but I need to say this:

There are some posters on this board (you know who are) that vehemently argued with me that John Wall > Gilbert Arenas.

Still think that now?


Say what you want about Arenas, whether he was 15-20 or 0-20, he NEVER ran away from the spotlight.

And never lost his aggressiveness......



John Wall LITERALLY ran away from the ball.


Think about that for a moment.....

Do you think Witt's play called for Wall to run to the ball, and Wall said "screw that, I'm scared; I'm running the other way"? Or, conversely, if Wittman's play called for Wall to cut away from the ball, do you think that Wall should've said "screw that, I'm calling an audible" and throw off the play's spacing?

Wall played like crap in the 4Q. So did every other starter. Comparisons between him and Arenas are useless; who cares?

As badly as Wall was in the fourth, he was even worse in the third.

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[Illmatic12]

I'm not worried about Wall's future, there's no way he doesn't learn from this. He's still only 23


More concering is whether or not Wittman is brought back.