Random Thoughts Thread Part 4

[montestewart]

I watched it live, and btw, Shaq was very much against Chaz on this one and was pro Lebron. Kenny was with Charles but not as vocal about it. Part of Charles' point was that Cleveland had already had the highest payroll in the NBA, so how can Lebron expect them to do more. I think that's a fair part of his argument. And while Lebron can certainly make a case against Charles, I thought a lot of Lebron's comments were cheap shots not related to the issue Charles was talking about. Granted, Charles has used that same tactic in the past, so maybe he had it coming.

Still not a big LeBJ fan (the person, not the player) but he's suffered this kind of sniping his whole career, so it's not a surprise that at some point he jabs back, and Barkley has been perhaps the single biggest culprit and there's also a lot of damaging facts to hurl back in his face. I like Barkley's honesty, even if he's frequently wrong, but pushback comes with the turf.

EH. I SEE IT THE OTHER WAY. I thought LeBJ was a bit of a bitch in attacking Charles with personal slights instead of addressing his points. And you notice he didn't say anything about Kenny, who had the same critique. Seemed a valid point to me. The same way he is always complaining to the referees, the same way he always had an excuse when he would fall short in the payoffs, he starts whining and bitching when his team is struggling and looking for ways to deflect the attention and scape goat someone and find excuses. What does Chuck's past bad behavior have anything to do with that? And then to tweet later to see if anyone still likes him. Its the same complaint I often have about LeBJ. He has all the advantages in thw world, best hardware in the game for winning. Excellent basketball mind. Refs allow him extra steps etc. He's been blessed by the gods, and still needs to hide behind other stars and have the highest payroll in the league and exceed the lux tax and have full input on front office moves, and so much more than any other player in the league gets. And still he's bitching. And can only answer by going personal. To deflect attention. Its a bitch move.

I don't disagree, Barkley's not all wrong on this, but I'm not surprised that LeBJ spat back at possibly his most persistent critic, even if he didn't address Barkley's points. Barkley has some dirt in his past that you can throw in his face, but I'm sure he'll weather this storm. Bitch move, sure, why not, but if that's all you do, why change? The drama's good for ratings anyway.

[Ruzious]

Thing is - Lebron and Wade are saying you shouldn't make any criticisms if you have some PERSONAL issues that can be googled. And that's a really sad way of thinking. There's probably dozens of things Lebron and Wade have done that are just as bad as what Charles has done - and it just hasn't been reported. But even if there isn't, personal attacks in response to professional basketball attacks is pathetic, childish, lame, etc. And getting attention for the wrong reasons - I don't think that's good for the game.

[montestewart]

Thing is - Lebron and Wade are saying you shouldn't make any criticisms if you have some PERSONAL issues that can be googled. And that's a really sad way of thinking. There's probably dozens of things Lebron and Wade have done that are just as bad as what Charles has done - and it just hasn't been reported. But even if there isn't, personal attacks in response to professional basketball attacks is pathetic, childish, lame, etc. And getting attention for the wrong reasons - I don't think that's good for the game.

Depends on what "good for the game" means. One of the things that makes the top superstars interesting is the glaring flaws, and everyone from Wilt to MJ to Kobe had/has them. Wrestling markets itself playing off the "larger than life" against the "flawed and human" with quite a bit of success. I preferred the soft spoken and relatively humble big Wes to the flashier and more outwardly egocentric Elvin, and Tim Duncan is also a favorite in the way he projects himself and his honest respect for the game. Similarly, I prefer the bluntness of Barkley to the superficiality of LeBJ, but when LeBJ throws a fit like that, it lifts the veil a little, and maybe that creates some drama and interest. For ratings, maybe it's good.

[Ruzious]

I was rooting against NE and Brady, but gotta admit Brady and Beliceck are the best I've ever seen at what they do. Brady's got to have made a deal with the devil - looks like he could play another 10 years if he chooses to. The last 5 minutes had maybe the greatest catch I've ever seen - by Julio Jones (and the throw to him was tremendous) - and the most amazing catch I've ever seen - by Julian Edelman.

[pineappleheadindc]

I see the Knicks have banned Oakley from MSG (which is pretty chicken ****).

Since Oak played here during the MJ era, the Wiz ought to give him a seat near the visitor's bench every time NYK are in town.

[montestewart]

I see the Knicks have banned Oakley from MSG (which is pretty chicken ****).

Since Oak played here during the MJ era, the Wiz ought to give him a seat near the visitor's bench every time NYK are in town.

I was saying similar today. Wizards, Hornets, Bulls, all his other teams (all with better records than the Knicks). Wonder what Ewing thinks about the ban? Or Riley? Or MJ? Or current Knicks? Knicks as always seem to be one careless flicked cigarette away from a tenement fire.

[pineappleheadindc]

Why is ESPN showing the Bulls/Suns game now instead of the ATL/SAC game?

[montestewart]

Why is ESPN showing the Bulls/Suns game now instead of the ATL/SAC game?

Why is Trump president? I'm outta answers.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Does anyone else think that Charles Oakley looks like Benson?

[closg00]

Dang!! Fab Melo dead at 26, heart attack in his sleep.


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[Kanyewest]

Dang!! Fab Melo dead at 26, heart attack in his sleep.


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Wow, that's crazy. Sounds like it was bad luck. RIP.

[sfam]

I just found out I really like rock sculpture, with a dremel that is. I'm working on a pretty cool massage stone right now.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I watched it live, and btw, Shaq was very much against Chaz on this one and was pro Lebron. Kenny was with Charles but not as vocal about it. Part of Charles' point was that Cleveland had already had the highest payroll in the NBA, so how can Lebron expect them to do more. I think that's a fair part of his argument. And while Lebron can certainly make a case against Charles, I thought a lot of Lebron's comments were cheap shots not related to the issue Charles was talking about. Granted, Charles has used that same tactic in the past, so maybe he had it coming.

Still not a big LeBJ fan (the person, not the player) but he's suffered this kind of sniping his whole career, so it's not a surprise that at some point he jabs back, and Barkley has been perhaps the single biggest culprit and there's also a lot of damaging facts to hurl back in his face. I like Barkley's honesty, even if he's frequently wrong, but pushback comes with the turf.

EH. I SEE IT THE OTHER WAY. I thought LeBJ was a bit of a bitch in attacking Charles with personal slights instead of addressing his points. And you notice he didn't say anything about Kenny, who had the same critique. Seemed a valid point to me. The same way he is always complaining to the referees, the same way he always had an excuse when he would fall short in the payoffs, he starts whining and bitching when his team is struggling and looking for ways to deflect the attention and scape goat someone and find excuses. What does Chuck's past bad behavior have anything to do with that? And then to tweet later to see if anyone still likes him. Its the same complaint I often have about LeBJ. He has all the advantages in thw world, best hardware in the game for winning. Excellent basketball mind. Refs allow him extra steps etc. He's been blessed by the gods, and still needs to hide behind other stars and have the highest payroll in the league and exceed the lux tax and have full input on front office moves, and so much more than any other player in the league gets. And still he's bitching. And can only answer by going personal. To deflect attention. Its a bitch move.

Lebron is a b word when it comes to receiving criticisms. His image was not being attacked to the point of making it personal. OTOH Barkley is a hater.

I will be glad when the Wizards can beat the Cavs.

Barkley is from the old school. Teams weren't stacked. Stars didn't whine or usurp ownership.

That said Lebron James knows the Cavs need more to win it all again--regardless of his methods he's trying to keep winning championships.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Somebody I know finally saw me on screen. ( It's bad when you're involved in a film project and all your scenes are cut out).

[closg00]

Does anyone else think that Charles Oakley looks like Benson?

OMG, you just made me snarf my coffee....

[J-Ves]

I just heard that the D-league has been renamed (or will be renamed next year) to the G-league and I don't know why but it's the funniest thing I've heard in weeks.

"That player sucks I hope he gets sent down to the G-league!"

[NatP4]

Is anyone else worried that the cavs might slip to the 2 seed without love, then get him back just in time to beat us in round 2 at full strength?

[sfam]

I just have to share.

I recently became unemployed, and just had my Surface Pro 3 just died earlier this week. I'm not in a position to buy a new one, or even take this to be fixed. I got an old desktop of mine working, posted this on Facebook. An old work associate of mine from my days in DoD, who I haven't talked to in years (except online) saw the post. She offered and just gave me her brand new Surface Pro 3, still in the box! She is getting read to retire, and is downsizing, and had this laying around for a number of months.

I take this as a sign I've been leading a pretty good, purposeful life. I do really spend a lot of time helping others, but really never expected something like this. What comes around goes around. This works in a positive sense as well!

[pineappleheadindc]

I just have to share.

I recently became unemployed, and just had my Surface Pro 3 just died earlier this week. I'm not in a position to buy a new one, or even take this to be fixed. I got an old desktop of mine working, posted this on Facebook. An old work associate of mine from my days in DoD, who I haven't talked to in years (except online) saw the post. She offered and just gave me her brand new Surface Pro 3, still in the box! She is getting read to retire, and is downsizing, and had this laying around for a number of months.

I take this as a sign I've been leading a pretty good, purposeful life. I do really spend a lot of time helping others, but really never expected something like this. What comes around goes around. This works in a positive sense as well!

I'm happy for your good fortune and share your belief that what goes around, comes around.

If you won't mind me prying, if you're planning to work in the Federal space, the hire freeze will be a headache for you unless you head on over to the DOD. What, generally, do you do??

[BigA]

For the past couple days, every time I open a page on the realgm site I get 3 notices that infections were blocked. Is there that much malware on the site?