The Washington Football Team Thread

[gambitx777]

Lance jones and fields are not guys you need to move up to get because trask mills and mound are all around that same level.

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[Wizardspride]

Lance jones and fields are not guys you need to move up to get because trask mills and mound are all around that same level.

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Trask ,Mills and Mond might end up being decent QBs but that first group has far better physical tools.

[Wizardspride]

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[tontoz]

If the 49ers are really taking Mac Jones at 3 (looks like a smokescreen to me) that will make it a lot easier for us to get a QB.

[BearlyBallin]

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I had hopes for Moss as a sure handed blocking TE. A Don Warren type. I wonder if the foot injury was worse then reported.

Brantley was another guy I had thought could help but he seems to keep missing his window of opportunity. In the draft dropping from projected 1st round pick to the 6th round. Then Cleveland giving up on him after a year. Then opting out last year. Now gone...

Guess they could grab Luke Farrell in the 7th round. I had wanted him as a blocking TE with sure hands before they signed Moss as an UDFA.

[Ruzious]

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I had hopes for Moss as a sure handed blocking TE. A Don Warren type. I wonder if the foot injury was worse then reported.

Brantley was another guy I had thought could help but he seems to keep missing his window of opportunity. In the draft dropping from projected 1st round pick to the 6th round. Then Cleveland giving up on him after a year. Then opting out last year. Now gone...

Guess they could grab Luke Farrell in the 7th round. I had wanted him as a blocking TE with sure hands before they signed Moss as an UDFA.

Me too on Brantley, but when he decided to drop out of last season because of Covid... that likely sealed his fate with the Skins. Moss always seemed like a long-shot - too slow.

[Wizardspride]

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[gambitx777]

I just think this is a terrible move and I think most washington fans still have RGIII flash backs.

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[tontoz]

“Watch the 15 to 20 seconds before the play, and this is when you get to understand what the expectation is for Trey to run that offense,” said McEvoy. “The play call may be the formation, then the protection, which for them may be a combo, which means Trey is going to go up to the line, see what the defensive front is, see where the threats are, and then he’s going to call the protection at the line.” McEvoy continued, “Then as far as the concept, half the time they’re just going to say ‘Trey.’ That means that Trey is going to decide at the line what concept he wants run on the front side, and what the complimentary option is on the backside.”

https://www.si.com/nfl/49ers/news/49ers-scouting-the-nuance-that-separates-trey-lance

[BearlyBallin]

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That’s a big boy. Was a basketball player at Tulane.

If he can block I’m feeling better going into the draft.

Grab a LT, LB & FS with the first 3 picks then go BPA with the second pick in the 3rd round.

[tontoz]

Reyes sounds like a cool story.

[gambitx777]

Looks like someone EG would have bought a second round pick to draft lol. But hell if the kid can catch a ball and set some good blocks he might be a steal still only 25 and fresh in terms of grind on his body. Dude big heavy and fast. I don't mind this at all, kind of wish we had kept miss too, but oh well.

Reyes sounds like a cool story.

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[verbal8]

Reyes sounds like a cool story.

He might also be a fit on Special Teams.

[Dat2U]

In my humble opinion, here's how I'd rank the QBs

1. Z. Wilson (top 2)
2. T. Lawrence (top 2)
3. T. Lance (late 1st)
4. J. Fields (late 1st)
5. K. Mond (2nd)
6. M. Jones (2nd)
7. K. Trask (3rd)
8. S. Ehlinger (4th)
9. D. Mills (4th)

I wouldn't trade up for a QB. Wilson was the one I was laser focused on early in the process (unreal arm talent) but I guess all the scouts caught on as well. Both Lance & Fields need alot of work. Lance's system is more advanced so I give him the edge despite less snaps. Fields has Dak Prescott upside but I hate to say it (I don't think hes proven he can make reads beyond the first or second guy. You can count on two hands the times he's had to do it.). He can get there but he should not be rushed at all.

The only guy I'd trade up for is Kyle Pitts because he looks like a future HOF'er and potential great at the TE position. He'll make any offense look good with just his presence. I hope he does not land in the NFC East!

Outside of Penei Sewell slipping a few spots... I'd stand pat.

[gambitx777]

Yeah other than some draft day ( the movie ) type stuff happening and wilson or Lawrence slip outside of 5 I wouldn't trade up.

In my humble opinion, here's how I'd rank the QBs

1. Z. Wilson (top 2)
2. T. Lawrence (top 2)
3. T. Lance (late 1st)
4. J. Fields (late 1st)
5. K. Mond (2nd)
6. M. Jones (2nd)
7. K. Trask (3rd)
8. S. Ehlinger (4th)
9. D. Mills (4th)

I wouldn't trade up for a QB. Wilson was the one I was laser focused on early in the process (unreal arm talent) but I guess all the scouts caught on as well. Both Lance & Fields need alot of work. Lance's system is more advanced so I give him the edge despite less snaps. Fields has Dak Prescott upside but I hate to say it (I don't think hes proven he can make reads beyond the first or second guy. You can count on two hands the times he's had to do it.). He can get there but he should not be rushed at all.

The only guy I'd trade up for is Kyle Pitts because he looks like a future HOF'er and potential great at the TE position. He'll make any offense look good with just his presence. I hope he does not land in the NFC East!

Outside of Penei Sewell slipping a few spots... I'd stand pat.

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[doclinkin]

The only guy I'd trade up for is Kyle Pitts

Chilean TE prospects aside, I think the "trade up for Lance" jabber may be a smokescreen for exactly that. I have seen mocks where Pitts falls to 12 or so. That is within range of a trade up from 19. Scott Turner coming up with an Air Coryell system suggests he would love to run a 2 TE set and maximize the strength of route running WR type TE's. Logan Thomas had a breakout year, but I can see Rivera looking to magnify the mismatches by having 2 big receiving threats on the field, and in Pitts you can even line up up as a giant WR. We just picked up a gunslinger in Fitzpatrick, you want to give him weapons. He loves to target his TE.

Whatever it is, I don't believe the chatter that we are focused on Lance in a trade up. It's too noisy, too obvious, seems a cover for something else. When looking at players who might be available in the range they were rumored to be jumping to, Pitts seemed the only target worth coveting enough to make a jump.

[Ruzious]

The only guy I'd trade up for is Kyle Pitts

Chilean TE prospects aside, I think the "trade up for Lance" jabber may be a smokescreen for exactly that. I have seen mocks where Pitts falls to 12 or so. That is within range of a trade up from 19. Scott Turner coming up with an Air Coryell system suggests he would love to run a 2 TE set and maximize the strength of route running WR type TE's. Logan Thomas had a breakout year, but I can see Rivera looking to magnify the mismatches by having 2 big receiving threats on the field, and in Pitts you can even line up up as a giant WR. We just picked up a gunslinger in Fitzpatrick, you want to give him weapons. He loves to target his TE.

Whatever it is, I don't believe the chatter that we are focused on Lance in a trade up. It's too noisy, too obvious, seems a cover for something else. When looking at players who might be available in the range they were rumored to be jumping to, Pitts seemed the only target worth coveting enough to make a jump.

If there's a wildcard in the draft, it seems to be Pitts. I've seen him mocked as high as 5th and as low as 15th. With the plethora of highly regarded QB's, he could slide a bit, so yeah, maybe he could be there at 12 or so - where a trade up becomes a reasonable possibility. I don't think RR is the type who would be willing to trade away a 1st to move up to the top 10, but because we have an extra 3rd rounder, I can see him being willing to trade a 2nd or 3rd rounder or maybe both 3rds to move up. Pitts would give the Skins options they've never had before.

[gambitx777]

It be nice if we could trade the 3s to get a second first.

The only guy I'd trade up for is Kyle Pitts

Chilean TE prospects aside, I think the "trade up for Lance" jabber may be a smokescreen for exactly that. I have seen mocks where Pitts falls to 12 or so. That is within range of a trade up from 19. Scott Turner coming up with an Air Coryell system suggests he would love to run a 2 TE set and maximize the strength of route running WR type TE's. Logan Thomas had a breakout year, but I can see Rivera looking to magnify the mismatches by having 2 big receiving threats on the field, and in Pitts you can even line up up as a giant WR. We just picked up a gunslinger in Fitzpatrick, you want to give him weapons. He loves to target his TE.

Whatever it is, I don't believe the chatter that we are focused on Lance in a trade up. It's too noisy, too obvious, seems a cover for something else. When looking at players who might be available in the range they were rumored to be jumping to, Pitts seemed the only target worth coveting enough to make a jump.

If there's a wildcard in the draft, it seems to be Pitts. I've seen him mocked as high as 5th and as low as 15th. With the plethora of highly regarded QB's, he could slide a bit, so yeah, maybe he could be there at 12 or so - where a trade up becomes a reasonable possibility. I don't think RR is the type who would be willing to trade away a 1st to move up to the top 10, but because we have an extra 3rd rounder, I can see him being willing to trade a 2nd or 3rd rounder or maybe both 3rds to move up. Pitts would give the Skins options they've never had before.

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[doclinkin]

The only guy I'd trade up for is Kyle Pitts

Chilean TE prospects aside, I think the "trade up for Lance" jabber may be a smokescreen for exactly that. I have seen mocks where Pitts falls to 12 or so. That is within range of a trade up from 19. Scott Turner coming up with an Air Coryell system suggests he would love to run a 2 TE set and maximize the strength of route running WR type TE's. Logan Thomas had a breakout year, but I can see Rivera looking to magnify the mismatches by having 2 big receiving threats on the field, and in Pitts you can even line up up as a giant WR. We just picked up a gunslinger in Fitzpatrick, you want to give him weapons. He loves to target his TE.

Whatever it is, I don't believe the chatter that we are focused on Lance in a trade up. It's too noisy, too obvious, seems a cover for something else. When looking at players who might be available in the range they were rumored to be jumping to, Pitts seemed the only target worth coveting enough to make a jump.

If there's a wildcard in the draft, it seems to be Pitts. I've seen him mocked as high as 5th and as low as 15th. With the plethora of highly regarded QB's, he could slide a bit, so yeah, maybe he could be there at 12 or so - where a trade up becomes a reasonable possibility. I don't think RR is the type who would be willing to trade away a 1st to move up to the top 10, but because we have an extra 3rd rounder, I can see him being willing to trade a 2nd or 3rd rounder or maybe both 3rds to move up. Pitts would give the Skins options they've never had before.

Right and you've seen him kicking the tires on pass catching TEs last year before we decided to take a chance on a converted QB as our TE full time. I honestly don't think Pitts lasts, I think he goes inside the top 10, but still, he'd be a useful weapon to have.

[Dat2U]

We land Kyle Pitts, we could make serious run this year with Fitz. Defenses wouldnt be able to key on McLaurin anymore. Sorta like that JReed/DJax combo when healthy - defenses didn't have an answer when both are on the field. The high end example is Tyreek Hill & Travis Kelce.