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A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread

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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#581 » by bealwithit » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:59 am

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bealwithit wrote:Back to the lab for Randy, this is where he needs to come up big
Hopefully Nene doesn't get suspended (I doubt it)



Gooden should be getting a lot more time.

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Are you saying even if Nene doesn't get suspended he will?
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#582 » by causticcretin » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:00 am

I still think the Wizards will seal the series in Chicago (game 7, not 5, tho - doesn't seem like we're destined for a home playoff win till Indy comes to town). I'm also trusting that Satan doesn't take bad deals, and it'd be a raw deal if he gave Dunleavy more than one game for his immortal soul...

The Wizards are better as an underdog and when on the road, anyways - Wall especially.

Whenever the Wall senses the media spotlight or tries to be a showman, he starts to try to play beyond his talents and forces the issue, trying to turn it to 11 when he should be happy being at an 8 or 9.

That 360 layup shot at the start of the game seems like this game in a nutshell. The Wizards, so desperate to prove they belong and can grow into the spotlight despite the shadow of the favored Bulls over their shoulder, that they forget that the how doesn't matter - only the final score.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#583 » by Sonny Carson » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:01 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
dangermouse wrote:
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One call doesn't make a game and Booker did reach over his shoulder.


Yeah but the refs swallowing their whistle the 3rd quarter whenever we were hit around the basket pretty much sealed it.

And wow hahahah that was a crazy end of game.

One thing we can take away from this: we played like we were down 2-0, not leading.


Agreed.

Beal looked confident but young as he is. Wall had a rough ending of both third and fourth quarters.

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This comes back on Randy though. Wall has lit it up in the 1st half of all 3 of the games. But Thibs makes adjustments and slows Wall down.

Randy makes no adjustments to how they are playing Wall in the 2nd half of games.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#584 » by queridiculo » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:01 am

Wall's missed free throws were a killer, not just down the stretch but the couple he missed earlier as well.

That said, Washington still had a shot and I don't care what anybody says about the refs, it was a bull call that cost Washington a key possession to close out the game.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#585 » by 80sballboy » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:01 am

dangermouse wrote:Honestly I think we need to utilize Gortat more. Boozer can't stop him in the post. Especially if Nene is gone.


Good point. He has a nice lefty hook. He just needs to stop fading away against shorter players. But if Nene is out. Noah is going to defend Gortat so he won't get as many looks. If Boozer is on him, they have to go at him.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#586 » by LyricalRico » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:01 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:We went on a 8-1 run when Nene went out.


Yep, when they stopped trying to force the Nene/Noah matchup, things opened up. Would have been nice if it was a decision by Randy instead of idiocy by Nene, but the effect was the same. Even if Nene plays next game, they need to figure out how to play faster instead of at Chicago's pace.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#587 » by pineappleheadindc » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:03 am

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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:We went on a 8-1 run when Nene went out.


Yep, when they stopped trying to force the Nene/Noah matchup, things opened up. Would have been nice if it was a decision by Randy instead of idiocy by Nene, but the effect was the same. Even if Nene plays next game, they need to figure out how to play faster instead of at Chicago's pace.



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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#588 » by bealwithit » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:03 am

Also, everyone has really got to calm down. This why getting that Game 2 win was so gigantic. There was no way Chicago was just gonna get swept.
Now we have a little breathing room still up a game and staying at home for Game 4. Make some adjustments on defense so they cannot score, come out and win that game and it's pretty much over.
Game 4 could be tough if we don't have Nene but I still think we can win that game if we just. play. d. We can still outscore the Bulls without Nene, we just have to make stops. If Dunleavy has 25 instead of 35, this is a different game.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#589 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:03 am

CaPtaiN eYeSaNo wrote:Wall is in danger of developing a serious mental block when it comes to free throws. Nick Anderson comes to mind.
I hope not.

John did make all three (including the last which he tried to miss intentionally) when Snell fouled him.

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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#590 » by Youheardme90 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:04 am

Beal was huge in the 4th though. Missed free throws and some iffy calls by the refs once again cost us this game.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#591 » by hands11 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:05 am

Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Nene may have just cost us this series.


I disagree. We went on a 8-1 run when Nene went out.

I do see where Gooden got fatigued and they got rebounds. Nene down the stretch would have been nice.

To me, Wall blew two huge FTs.

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Actually, the run started the very next play after Gooden came in for Booker and Gooden took the charge.

This was one of the Booker disappearing nights. If he is out there, he has to be aggressive offensively.

23 mins. 2 pts 3 rebounds, 1 block 5 fouls. On a night Nene didn't have it going, you can't have 23 minutes wasted on Booker doing almost nothing. He only took 3 shots.

This was on for those Randy brain freeze games. Finally once Nene was out and a few played of Booker and Gortat, he finally went to Gooden.

Wizards played terrible. Said it in the first. It was amazing they made it as close as it was.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#592 » by dangermouse » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:07 am

When Noah was in "foul trouble", the commentators were even saying, the Wizards are going at him to get that extra foul and have him sit. Its the strategic thing to do. Smart play.

Go back and watch it again, the refs ate their whistle every. single. play. You can't really point fingers at Wizards players or Randy. They were being aggressive going to the basket and on loose balls after a shot. He was getting away with everything and anything. Go back and re-watch if you think im just a homer thats sour we lost. Very rarely do teams win when there is 8 opposing players on the court. Just go back and re-watch. Its like they held back on calling the fouls just because he would have had to sit on the bench.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#593 » by pineappleheadindc » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:07 am

bealwithit wrote:Also, everyone has really got to calm down. This why getting that Game 2 win was so gigantic. There was no way Chicago was just gonna get swept.
Now we have a little breathing room still up a game and staying at home for Game 4. Make some adjustments on defense so they cannot score, come out and win that game and it's pretty much over.
Game 4 could be tough if we don't have Nene but I still think we can win that game if we just. play. d. We can still outscore the Bulls without Nene, we just have to make stops. If Dunleavy has 25 instead of 35, this is a different game.



I would agree. The Bulls needed stuff like a 35 point game from Dunleavy, Nene playing poorly the getting ejected, a crucial bad call by the refs and us playing poorly.....they needed all of that together to eke out a win.

The sky isn't falling. Congrats Chicago. Now let's go get game 4.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#594 » by The Kavorka » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:07 am

I don't mean to be harsh but Wittman and Beal lost us that game. Dunleavy scored 35 points. If he scores, 30, we win. If he scores 20 (9 above his average), we win in a blowout. Wittman's to blame for horrendous adjustments, but I am not letting Beal off when he is saying things like "He won't score in the 2nd half." Whatever happened at the end is moot, the fact that DUNLEAVY, off all people, blew up on us is why we lost.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#595 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:08 am

Illuminaire wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:Nene may have just cost us this series.


I disagree. We went on a 8-1 run when Nene went out.

I do see where Gooden got fatigued and they got rebounds. Nene down the stretch would have been nice.

To me, Wall blew two huge FTs.

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Wall also made a lot more FTs, hit some big shots, played very efficiently and barely turned the ball over.

Just saying, he was very good in this game.


Agreed.

He was good when he played in the flow of the game. I am just angry that he's not a great floor general in half court, and because he missed both...He's a great FT shooter--and he needs to be sure of just that.

Honesty, I am just responding to the loss.

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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#596 » by 80sballboy » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:08 am

"I take all the blame for all the points he has, and I guarantee he won't score in the second half." - Brad Beal on Mike Dunleavy. Damn.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#597 » by dlts20 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:09 am

Sonny Carson wrote:I still dont get how up 2 with 1:30 to go the Wizards couldnt close that deal.

easy answer. The 2 biggest problems weve had this whole series. FT's and defensive boards. They missed but got 2 offensive boards to finally score. Then we choke at the line
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#598 » by dangermouse » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:10 am

Just go on the general board. Neutral fans of other teams, and even some Bulls fans, are admitting that the officiating ****'ed us over.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#599 » by 80sballboy » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:10 am

The Kavorka wrote:I don't mean to be harsh but Wittman and Beal lost us that game. Dunleavy scored 35 points. If he scores, 30, we win. If he scores 20 (9 above his average), we win in a blowout. Wittman's to blame for horrendous adjustments, but I am not letting Beal off when he is saying things like "He won't score in the 2nd half." Whatever happened at the end is moot, the fact that DUNLEAVY, off all people, blew up on us is why we lost.


The bigs didn't start hedging until late in the game. That's when Dunleavy started passing it out. Not sure why Gortat and Nene weren't coming out to help Ariza and Beal.
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Re: A bit of home cooking: Wizards vs Bulls Game 3 Thread 

Post#600 » by dlts20 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 3:11 am

I dont like Beal on MDJ because we ned to fight harder through screens but there isnt a ton you can do when a 6'10 guy is curling at the 3pt land and knocking them down. Beal shouldve never been on him. Butler is not going to go for big points. Still, if a shooter like that is on, its hard to stop unless you have quick bigs that can switch and we dont have that. DJ had 25 last game and I didnt that that was horrible D either. He just made some tough shots. Pull up J's at the 3pt line on the move with the defender trailing hard. Thats hard to stop

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