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2025 Draft Thread - Part 3

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#581 » by penbeast0 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:21 pm

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nate33 wrote:Me too. The problem is that San Antonio doesn’t need Carrington. They need a defensive wing like Bilal.

Ultimately, I don’t think San Antonio trades the #2. They’ll probably trade Fox eventually. Something like Fox and a pick for Trey Murphy makes a lot of sense.

Who are wizards taking if draft is 1 Flagg 2 Harper 3 vj 4 maluch 5 kon


Johnson or Fears?


Tre Johnson
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#582 » by closg00 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:28 pm

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AFM wrote:
Jay81 wrote:Who are wizards taking if draft is 1 Flagg 2 Harper 3 vj 4 maluch 5 kon


Johnson or Fears?


Tre Johnson


I'm good with either, either of them will be 1 of a Big-3, we have some promising role-players in development.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#583 » by NatP4 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:31 pm

AFM wrote:
Jay81 wrote:Who are wizards taking if draft is 1 Flagg 2 Harper 3 vj 4 maluch 5 kon


Johnson or Fears?


Really? I’m swinging for Bailey there (or trading down)
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#584 » by payitforward » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:35 pm

Of course Dawkins would draft him! If Queen looks like the best prospect on the board at 18 we'll have no problem taking him. These guys are maximally rational, or at least they try like hell to be!

But, Queen isn't going to be on the board at 18, & we don't know whether there's a possible good trade up to.... wherever... to get him.

Plus, saying that we would take him at the right spot is altogether different from maying that we would target him somehow. & if you think we ought to do that, what are you willing to give in a trade that gets us, say, the #12 pick?

Without some idea of what you'd give, it's not even meaningful to advocate picking him -- unless you'd take him at 6.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#585 » by BMagic » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:43 pm

From David Aldridge's Draft Confidential:

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#586 » by The Consiglieri » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:46 pm

PaulinVA wrote:
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80sballboy wrote:
Read on Twitter

Translation:
Charlotte doesn’t want to draft Bailey and is trying to entice a team to trade up for him.


How absurd is that the two of the teams holding top 3 picks have no need for a top 3 pick?


I think I've made it clear for a while that if Ted had any balls, he'd be teaming up with all the teams that got prison ----d in the lottery, got with all the teams about to really really suck in the near term future and worked to get this entire lottery system flushed down the ----ing toilet where it belongs, the septic tank.

It doesn't prevent tanking and it rigs the system for tanking of the best teams which it then habitually awards over the truly damaged markets and cities desperate for any hope whatsoever.

Work to get the lottery obliterated for once and for all. It has been, is, and will always be total bull----.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#587 » by payitforward » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:48 pm

So... you guys who would like to draft Queen:

1. Where would you take him? What draft pick?
2. If not at 6, & assuming you think he'll be gone by 18, what pick would you use on him & exactly what would you give to acquire that pick?

Let's hear it....
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#588 » by closg00 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:49 pm

BMagic wrote:From David Aldridge's Draft Confidential:

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Exactly my sentiments, we may be trying to trade-up ensure getting Fears if we can't get Bailey because nobody knows what TF Utah is going to do
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#589 » by penbeast0 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:51 pm

I'd run the lottery so the teams with the best chance at #1 would be the non-playoff teams with the best record, not the worst. Let the bad teams develop supporting players for a year or two, get stronger, and move up toward the play-in. You might even have to let the play-in teams pick before the truly egregiously bad teams (like us last year). This eliminates the tanking and means the top incoming stars have a team around them if they are really capable of being an offensive or defensive engine.

No chance I know, but . . .
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#590 » by closg00 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 10:54 pm

A M Hoops take,

"Some NBA FO's think Fears is right up there with Dylan Harper, maybe better" the target is Fears, not Bailey.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#591 » by nate33 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:01 pm

closg00 wrote:A M Hoops take,

"Some NBA FO's think Fears is right up there with Dylan Harper, maybe better" the target is Fears, not Bailey.


Absurd take. This is pure disinformation planted by somebody.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#592 » by badinage » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:02 pm

Hmmmmm …

And we all heard about the workout that they conducted recently — not at the arena, but off-site, at Georgetown.

More and more, I’m excited — we’re going to get a guy who can create and/or generate action.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#593 » by TGW » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:08 pm

I like Fears. He gets downhill. I would take him over Tre Johnson all day everyday. But I’m not a fan of the measurables.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#594 » by AFM » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:12 pm

NatP4 wrote:
AFM wrote:
Jay81 wrote:Who are wizards taking if draft is 1 Flagg 2 Harper 3 vj 4 maluch 5 kon


Johnson or Fears?


Really? I’m swinging for Bailey there (or trading down)


My bad, I had read it as Bailey was taken already. Yeah I'd take Bailey at 6.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#595 » by AFM » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:16 pm

payitforward wrote:Of course Dawkins would draft him! If Queen looks like the best prospect on the board at 18 we'll have no problem taking him. These guys are maximally rational, or at least they try like hell to be!

But, Queen isn't going to be on the board at 18, & we don't know whether there's a possible good trade up to.... wherever... to get him.

Plus, saying that we would take him at the right spot is altogether different from maying that we would target him somehow. & if you think we ought to do that, what are you willing to give in a trade that gets us, say, the #12 pick?

Without some idea of what you'd give, it's not even meaningful to advocate picking him -- unless you'd take him at 6.


I've stated multiple times I'd do 18 + Kispert + as many 2nds as needed. Does anyone want Kispert? I dunno. That's up to Dawkins to figure out.

I suppose what you're really asking is what wouldn't I give up. Would I trade any of our young players to move up a few spots? Honestly no.

Actually I'd throw in AJ Johnson to make it work.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#596 » by NatP4 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:18 pm

pcbothwel wrote:For us... Traore.
Richardson is a high IQ player that will be a solid bench piece for a contender, but he doesn't have the vision, athleticism, size, or creativity to be more than that and we need to take bigger swings.
Poole, Jared Butler, Monk, Rozier, etc Solid players that will play for a decade, but just arent worth a pick in the top 20 to a rebuilding team.


Traore just scares me. There’s real bust potential there and an archetype that you don’t see as much with impact PGs in 2025.

Trading up from 18 is probably the way to go.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#597 » by DCZards » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:37 pm

BMagic wrote:From David Aldridge's Draft Confidential:

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“I think he’s serious about his craft.” There’s that work ethic that Fears’ bball playing dad says he instilled in Jeremiah.

Private workout at G’Town, huh. Maybe Fears was working on the pick-and-pop with our 18th pick Sorber. :)
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#598 » by AFM » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:39 pm

I'd also like to remind this board that I thought Shabazz Muhammad would be a good pro.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#599 » by closg00 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 11:55 pm

nate33 wrote:
closg00 wrote:A M Hoops take,

"Some NBA FO's think Fears is right up there with Dylan Harper, maybe better" the target is Fears, not Bailey.


Absurd take. This is pure disinformation planted by somebody.


It was discussed here, they have no reason to lie.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 3 

Post#600 » by tontoz » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:14 am

Fears is smaller than Harper , shoots 7% worse on 2s, turns it over 50% more. Nothing to see here.
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