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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#61 » by closg00 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:25 pm

nate33 wrote:The Wizards played at a 32-win pace following the trade. We have the same team now with the following changes:

Wall > Livingston
Arenas >>> Foye
Hinrich > Gee
Booker = Singleton
Seraphin = Oberto
???? < Miller

The one unknown is that we don't know who will be replacing Miller. Whoever it is, it'll probably be a bit of a downgrade, but I don't think that comes close to offsetting the massive upgrade at guard. We should also get incremental improvement out of Blatche, Young and McGee.

Everyone always says the competition got better, but that's simply not true. Players age. Teams lose players. On average the league is the same every year. Some teams will improve, others will fall back. Miami and Chicago will be better, but Cleveland and Toronto will be worse. Atlanta lost some veteran depth and their backcourt is getting old. NJ will only be marginally improved because Favors isn't NBA ready. NY won't be much better, unless they get Lebron (which hurts Chicago). Indy didn't improve. Philly's roster is a mess with no outside shooters. Boston is older and without Perkins.

I can see us winning 30-35 games easy.


Gotta disagree here. Do you recall how-long it took Flip to install his system, only to abandon it later?
How-long do you figure it will take to implement an offense and defense with all of the new players & moving Gil to SG? You can wager good money that you won't see Blatche back in the line-up til......fall some time. Our Frontline is paper-thin again until Blatche returns and Seraphin learns English and NBA basketball. We are also weak at SF. I'd be thrilled with 30 wins.

Re: Philly, EJ is gone so they are good for 15-20 more wins with Evan Turner on-board.
New York is gonna put together some pieces with or w/o LeBron, they could go either way.

Everyone else I rank ahead of us post-draft, barring some amazing FA signing by Ernie. There was some nice talent drafted in the East also so Wiz and Toronto on the bottom IMO.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#62 » by nate33 » Thu Jul 1, 2010 6:43 pm

Flip didn't "abandon" the system. He tweaked it. (And it produced immediate results, I might add.) The two-guard tweak will probably remain in effect. Which means that Young, Thornton, Blatche and McGee won't have any adjustements to make. Arenas' adjustment won't be too hard either. It only took the team about 2 days to get used to the new system, Arenas will have an entire summer. Hinrich is a smart guy and should pick things up in training camp.

So it really boils down to how fast will Wall adapt to the NBA, and whether or not Booker and Seraphin will be immediate contributers.

It's really tough to predict how fast rookies make the jump. Rose didn't take long. Wall could be faster or slower, we'll just have to wait and see. I agree that it's likely we'll get little out of Seraphin and N'Diaye in their rookie years. Booker will be an interesting guy to watch. He's a 4-year college player and the stats say he has extremely high bball IQ, so it's a pretty good bet he'll make the jump better than most rookies.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#63 » by hands11 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:03 am

Amazing. So many wanted players who could play defense and now that we have more, people are worried about the offense. The thing I'm more worried about is chemistry.

We may have lost three players that I liked regarding chemistry... Livingston, Singleton and Miller. Three quality hard working mature players.

PG-John Wall/Kirk Hinrich
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin/Hamady N'Diaye

So now we have to see how Wall, Gil and Dray fit together. We are turning the team over to a rookie before he even steps on the floor. I don't feel comfortable with that. And we are mixing Gil back in when the player we got plays his old position.

I'm just not sure how comfortable I am giving Wall so much of a leadership roll right away. I think it works a lot better when you bring someone like a Tony Parker into a situation where there are other vets leaders so they can grow into the role. Starting a rookie at PG is kind of a big deal.

I look at that roster and it just seems to rudderless. That squad could really use a mature hard working vet like Mike Miller to ground it. I would give up Hamady being active right now for some continuity and I would consider not starting Wall to start the season. Give the kid a chance to grow into the role and make him earn the starting position. Don't just spoon feed him. Even if it only last a month, I still like it better. Let him get his feet settled.

PG-Kirk Hinrich/John Wall
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker - Here I want to see Miller or Howard
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Vet Center - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

I can see not signing Singleton with Booker on the team but I did like Singleton. That leaves a space for a vet center. Kirk can back up at SG when Nick isn't getting it done. I don't know that anyone is sold on Nicks maturity an focus but he is to hard to dump just yet since he is so talented.

I'm still not sure we wouldn't have been better off getting Wesley by trading down and gained an asset in the progress like cash or a pick.

PG-Kirk Hinrich/Livingston
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Wesley/Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Vet Center - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

Liv or Kirk starting. Either works. Kirk has the D, Liv with length and post game.
Kirk can back up the 2 some if Nick can't handle it
We really need to find our star SF. That is a key to success.
Dray gets most the minutes at PF while Yi is looked at and even give McGee some minutes there.
Vet center to anchor the post while Kevin fights to be the starter. McGee will end up floating as back up to C and PF eventually until he proves he can be a starting quality center. Kevin can back up at PF also.

I like this better and could easily see this as a playoff team with good chemistry.

( edit ) this was all before seeing Wall in summer league. I am not nearly as concerning with his stepping right in. The kid seems very driven. Very mature. Very humble and very coachable. )
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#64 » by KevinFCheng » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:13 am

^ You would trade Wall for Wesley Johnson + future filler? Really? Really now?
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Post#65 » by yungal07 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:18 am

KevinFCheng wrote:^ You would trade Wall for Wesley Johnson + future filler? Really? Really now?


As much as I've disliked some of Ernie's moves, he is head and shoulders more qualified to run a team than anyone posting on this board. Some of the stuff I read hear..."wow" is all I have to say.
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Post#66 » by team_cancer02 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:26 am

hands11 wrote:Amazing. So many wanted players who could play defense and now that we have more, people are worried about the offense. The thing I'm more worried about is chemistry.

We may have lost three players that I liked regarding chemistry... Livingston, Singleton and Miller. Three quality hard working mature players.

PG-John Wall/Kirk Hinrich
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin/Hamady N'Diaye

So now we have to see how Wall, Gil and Dray fit together. We are turning the team over to a rookie before he even steps on the floor. I don't feel comfortable with that. And we are mixing Gil back in when the player we got plays his old position.

I'm just not sure how comfortable I am giving Wall so much of a leadership roll right away. I think it works a lot better when you bring someone like a Tony Parker into a situation where there are other vets leaders so they can grow into the role. Starting a rookie at PG is kind of a big deal.

I look at that roster and it just seems to rudderless. That squad could really use a mature hard working vet like Mike Miller to ground it. I would give up Hamady being active right now for some continuity and I would consider not starting Wall to start the season. Give the kid a chance to grow into the role and make him earn the starting position. Don't just spoon feed him. Even if it only last a month, I still like it better. Let him get his feet settled.

PG-Kirk Hinrich/John Wall
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker - Here I want to see Miller or Howard
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Vet Center - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

I can see not signing Singleton with Booker on the team but I did like Singleton. That leaves a space for a vet center. Kirk can back up at SG when Nick isn't getting it done. I don't know that anyone is sold on Nicks maturity an focus but he is to hard to dump just yet since he is so talented.

I'm still not sure we wouldn't have been better off getting Wesley by trading down and gained an asset in the progress like cash or a pick.

PG-Kirk Hinrich/Livingston
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Wesley/Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Vet Center - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

Liv or Kirk starting. Either works. Kirk has the D, Liv with length and post game.
Kirk can back up the 2 some if Nick can't handle it
We really need to find our star SF. That is a key to success.
Dray gets most the minutes at PF while Yi is looked at and even give McGee some minutes there.
Vet center to anchor the post while Kevin fights to be the starter. McGee will end up floating as back up to C and PF eventually until he proves he can be a starting quality center. Kevin can back up at PF also.

I like this better and could easily see this as a playoff team with good chemistry.


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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#67 » by montestewart » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:43 am

yungal07 wrote:
KevinFCheng wrote:^ You would trade Wall for Wesley Johnson + future filler? Really? Really now?


As much as I've disliked some of Ernie's moves, he is head and shoulders more qualified to run a team than anyone posting on this board. Some of the stuff I read hear..."wow" is all I have to say.

That one is pretty funny. I wonder if that was intentional? I know I couldn't run a team (I can barely run my own life) but I'm not going to judge the abilities of nate33, CCJ, Dat2u, LyricalRico and a bunch of others who to me clearly watch things much closer than I do. Maybe oen of them could do a better job. Sorry EG. Prove me wrong, and I'd happily eat crow in exchange for Wizards success.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#68 » by hands11 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:44 am

Give it a break you over reacting Ls. This is a thread about starting rosters.

I brought up some valid concern and said, Im still not sure if That's all.

LOL ? Please. What does that add to the debate of idea.

Grow up.

I wrote a balanced post voicing some concerns. No one will know the answers until we look back.

What I do know is chemistry matters. I look at what we have and I have concerns about how well it will work. Lots of rookies. Lots of ? returning players like McGee, Nick, Yi

Plus mixing Gil and Wall

And we still don't have a star prospect at one of the most important positions and no solid center.

Even given that we got Wall, I still wouldn't start him day one. I guess I'm just a little old school. Bring the kid along a little before just throwing him out there. This happens all the time in lots of sports. Even with top picks. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised at all if it happens here also.

And of all the vet centers out there, still hard to find one more reliable then Haywood.

PG-Kirk Hinrich/Livingston
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Wesley/Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Haywood - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

or like we have

PG-Kirk Hinrich/Wall
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker - Howard or Miller - Howard to a one year if that works
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Haywood - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

This can still easily be a playoff team this year if we finish rounding out the roster.

or we just go into the season with unknowns at center and live with it.
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Post#69 » by montestewart » Fri Jul 2, 2010 4:57 am

hands11 wrote:Give it a break you over reacting Ls.

I brought up some valid concern and said, Im still not sure if That's all.

LOL ? Please. What does that add to the debate of idea.

Grow up.

I wrote a balanced post voicing some concerns. No one will know the answers until we look back.

What I do know is chemistry matters. I look at what we have and I have concerns about how well it will work. Lots of rookies. Looks of ? returning players like McGee, Nick, Yi

Plus mixing Gil and Wall

And we still don't have a star prospect at one of the most important positions and no solid center.

Yeah, that merits more than an LOL. I also look for balance and steady veteran presence. Hinrich brings some of that, but ideally (to me) he'll be dealt by the deadline, which doesn't do much for continuity.

Might end up being SF by committee while scouting who's available for trade or in next year's draft (or in trade with Denver...).

I really like Wall coming to DC, but was open to the idea of trading down to get Cousins, Favors, or Turner in addition to a solid player and a future pick. Open to it, but VERY happy with Wall. I'm also quite open to seeing Arenas traded, but I'm not so sure Wall and Arenas can't be a great backcourt together, and it's really not the right time to trade arenas unless a great deal makes itself known, and he is to me the most exciting player in DC basketball in years. But, if it helps the team, I'm open to anything.

Sure your right, lots of unknowns and variables and chemistry issues, and even with my chronic crankiness, I am excited about this year and all the new faces and how they might (hopefully) mesh into something that could be built upon. I'm not ruling out playoffs, but I'm trying to temper my expectations and think long term.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#70 » by Kanyewest » Fri Jul 2, 2010 5:17 am

Krizko Zero wrote:(2008 Chicago Bulls)

PG-Derrick Rose/Kirk Hinrich
SG-Ben Gordon/Thabo Sefolosha
SF-Luol Deng/Andres Nocioni
PF-Tyrus Thomas/Drew Gooden
C-Joakim Noah/Aaron Gray

Vs.

(Potential 2010 Washington Wizards)

PG-John Wall/Kirk Hinrich
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin/Hamady N'Diaye

I don't see how these teams differ that much, and I also doubt the East as a whole improves much over last season (with FA considered). So I see the team fairing similarly to that Bulls team, a 6-8 seed who may fight hard and could maybe Win a 1st Round series with a lucky matchup, but will most likely be out in the 1st Round.


Except that Chicago wasn't a playoff team until they made this deal:

The Chicago Bulls acquired center Brad Miller and John Salmons from the Sacramento Kings on Wednesday for four players, including forwards Drew Gooden and Andres Nocioni.

PG- Rose/Hinrich
SG- Gordon/Hinrich
SF- Salmons/Hinrich
PF- Tyrus Thomas/Noah
C- Noah/Brad Miller

The Bulls had other players (Tim Thomas, Linton Johnson, Lindsay Hunter, Gray) but essentially went to a 7 man rotation when it came to the playoffs. And Luol Deng was injured IIRC. Chicago had an exciting series against the Celtics who were without KG and Leon Powe.
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Post#71 » by Hoopalotta » Fri Jul 2, 2010 8:20 am

hands11 wrote:Amazing. So many wanted players who could play defense and now that we have more, people are worried about the offense. The thing I'm more worried about is chemistry.


I don't think Will-B, Closg or I were exactly worried about anything so much as just acknowledging that it looks like a tank squadron.

And I don't think any of us are actually particularly down about that anyway, just calling it out.

As things stand now, I'd expect some injury riddled stretches in the season where Blatche is pressed into playing center for over 20 minutes a game and Yi's seeing big minutes at power forward, so I'm not expecting the defense to be particularly strong.

I like the defensive potential of a number of a number of the players just drafted, but I see them more as seeds just planted rather than a ripe harvest.
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Post#72 » by hands11 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 2:55 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
Krizko Zero wrote:(2008 Chicago Bulls)

PG-Derrick Rose/Kirk Hinrich
SG-Ben Gordon/Thabo Sefolosha
SF-Luol Deng/Andres Nocioni
PF-Tyrus Thomas/Drew Gooden
C-Joakim Noah/Aaron Gray

Vs.

(Potential 2010 Washington Wizards)

PG-John Wall/Kirk Hinrich
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin/Hamady N'Diaye

I don't see how these teams differ that much, and I also doubt the East as a whole improves much over last season (with FA considered). So I see the team fairing similarly to that Bulls team, a 6-8 seed who may fight hard and could maybe Win a 1st Round series with a lucky matchup, but will most likely be out in the 1st Round.


Except that Chicago wasn't a playoff team until they made this deal:

The Chicago Bulls acquired center Brad Miller and John Salmons from the Sacramento Kings on Wednesday for four players, including forwards Drew Gooden and Andres Nocioni.

PG- Rose/Hinrich
SG- Gordon/Hinrich
SF- Salmons/Hinrich
PF- Tyrus Thomas/Noah
C- Noah/Brad Miller

The Bulls had other players (Tim Thomas, Linton Johnson, Lindsay Hunter, Gray) but essentially went to a 7 man rotation when it came to the playoffs. And Luol Deng was injured IIRC. Chicago had an exciting series against the Celtics who were without KG and Leon Powe.


Center and SF. That's kind of what I was getting at and that is what still has me worried about our roster. We may have found some answers at center. Just hard to tell how soon we will know for sure.

Personally, I would have felt more comfortable with

PG-Kirk Hinrich/Livingston - both fighting for the starting spot with hopefully Liv getting it.
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Wesley/Al Thornton/Trevor Booker - Wes is smooth and has star SF potential.
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Haywood - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

But this is what we have. It is still good. hopefully.

PG-Kirk Hinrich/Wall
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker - Howard or Miller - Howard to a one year if that works
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Haywood - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

I don't trust AT to be a star SF longer term so we are just delaying the inevitable. We have to draft or trade for one and then let that player find their way on and mix in with the team which take time. Specially for a star SF.

In either case though, center is a ???. I have high hopes for Kevin. I think he will pass McGee pretty quickly because of this superior D. Center first and foremost is about D. Who knows. Maybe that will be the wake up call for McGee to finally learn to do it better. But Seraphin is a man while McGee is a boy. You need a man at center.

But I doubt we will get a player like Haywood. It would just delay learning what we need to learn which is... do we have someone in our three centers who is going to be able to man that position for the next 3-5 years and do we have back ups. So we are back to

PG-Kirk Hinrich/Walli
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker - Howard or Miller - Howard to a one year if that works
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin and maybe Hamady

and let it ride.

I recall AT playing some solid D man up a few game. The IIRC he got dinged and missed some games.
He is athletic. Not terrible having him there. And I think Booker is going to contribute right away. Kid seems NBA ready regarding his motor and toughness so that is a decent split for minutes.

That could be a pretty decent team if things work out at center. Most teams have questions coming in a season. We just happen to have a lot of them. And while McGee hasn't been the best at D, I did see him getting leverage later in the year and he is super long and athletic. He is going to cause other teams problems on the other end, specially with two true PGs to lob his balls. I suspect Gil will even get in on the act not wanting to be shown up.

I'm excited to see them on the court. Its been a long wait to see Dray start at PF and this time we have true PGs and with Gil at SG, it could work.
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Post#73 » by nate33 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 3:30 pm

hands, I can buy the argument that Wesley Johnson might help this particular team win more games in this coming season than John Wall would. Wesley Johnson is NBA ready, a perfect fit at our biggest hole, and we have enough PG's to make up for the loss of Wall. But please, don't tell me you would actually prefer Wesley Johnson over John Wall in the long run. You can't be that clueless.
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Post#74 » by nate33 » Fri Jul 2, 2010 7:15 pm

From the free agency thread, but it belongs here:
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nate33 wrote:I think Leonsis honestly intends to try and build a rapport with Arenas and to do his best to bring him back into the fold and help him to be successful as possible. I just don't think that necessarily conflicts with being open to trading him if the right deal comes along.

For the record, I too am excited to see Wall and Arenas together. I'm confident that they will be an exciting and effective combination - certainly more exciting and effective than Wall alone. It's not like I think Arenas sucks or anything. I just don't really see the combo helping us win a championship 4 years down the road. I think having the cap flexibility will be more important to help us find the front court star we need to complement Wall.


I actually do, Gil just has to get his body back to pure muscles at 215 lbs, dudes was so powerful and had so much burst going into his legs that even big seven footers couldn't stop him from scoring. He tried to cut down his weight when he had to play pg full time after larry hughes and jeffries were discarded. Also gil is 3 years south of 30 years old and he is definitely in his prime. I don't expect a significant athletic decline and expect him to regain that 215lb body frame of pure muscle. usually guys that are at 215 can't explode the way gil does. I also expect him to recover fully from his knee and his knee is going to have alot less wear and tear now that he doesn't have put some much stress on it guarding lightening quick point guards. He is now able to use his strength against sg's. Remember he was way stronger than larry hughes which is why he was a much better matchup on shooting guards. Remember guys, Gilbert at 215 is an extremely powerful guard when taking it the whole and he didn't just rely on his speed when he scored 2400 points in a season... blah blah blah.


I would definitely be interested in knowing whether Arenas is trying put on muscle mass again. I agree that he was an extremely strong guy for his size prior to the injury. He then lost some weight during his rehab in an effort to get lighter and to reduce wear and team on his knee. Now that he's had another 9 months of healing and strengthening of that knee, I wonder if he is comfortable with putting the weight back on.

I would be more confident in a 215 pound Arenas guarding SG's rather than a 205 pound Arenas.

Likewise, I wonder if Hinrich will try to take a little weight off. He bulked up two summers ago in preparation to play SG alongside Rose, and it kind of messed up his game. If Arenas is a 215 pound pure SG, then Hinrich might be better off lightening up a bit with the goal to play backup PG almost exclusively. Young can back up the SG position and maybe steal another 10 minutes a game at SF (since he has bulked up some as well.)
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Post#75 » by hands11 » Tue Jul 6, 2010 2:29 am

nate33 wrote:hands, I can buy the argument that Wesley Johnson might help this particular team win more games in this coming season than John Wall would. Wesley Johnson is NBA ready, a perfect fit at our biggest hole, and we have enough PG's to make up for the loss of Wall. But please, don't tell me you would actually prefer Wesley Johnson over John Wall in the long run. You can't be that clueless.


You were doing well until you found the need to do that stupid name calling thing at the end to many here feel the need to do in an attempt to look like they are smarter then the rest and know something they don't.

You were actually saying you saw the valid point I was making about what filled our needs the most in balance. That was my point. You could have just stuck with that.
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Post#76 » by Hoopalotta » Tue Jul 6, 2010 3:04 pm

Mike Lee chat:

Q.
How come no talk of James Singleton reupping? He would be ideal fot for what they are trying to do this year and next, right?

A.
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To my understanding, they didn't contact James Singleton's reps on July 1. That doesn't mean they won't bring him back, but I don't think they feel obligated to lock him up right now. He told me that he wants to come back because he liked his 32 games here and working with the young guys. But we'll see. The first priority is finding a veteran wing player.


http://live.washingtonpost.com/nba-free-agency.html

Q.
What are the chances Shaun Livingston comes back to DC as a backup point guard? And is Nick Young a part of the Wizards future plans?

A.
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Shaun Livingston is probably not coming back. I don't see it happening - and that was before the Wizards added John Wall and Kirk Hinrich. There just aren't enough minutes in the backcourt to satisfy Shaun. I also don't see him wanting to play for a lousy team again. He's been on some bad teams since coming to the league and he's been hurt the rest of the time. I think he's looking to play and win if he gets the chance. I believe some good team will give him a shot.
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Post#77 » by nate33 » Tue Jul 6, 2010 3:20 pm

Not much news here. We all knew Livingston was a goner. I don't know what to think about the Singleton situation. I figure that management really does like Singleton (how can they not, give his play last season), but it's also true that he just isn't a very high priority right now.

I wonder if management has let him know that he has a home here for the vet minimum but he is unlikely to get more.

FWIW, I'd rather have Singleton than Yi. I'm beating a dead horse though. Unfortunately, we're stuck with YI.
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Post#78 » by closg00 » Tue Jul 6, 2010 3:59 pm

....and also from the Mike Lee Chat

Nick Young
Correct me if I'm wrong but I suspect Nick has until February to show the Wizards something or he is gone.

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I will not correct you, because that appears to be correct. But if no team takes him at the deadline, the Wizards could also let him walk next summer when he becomes a restricted free agent. This is a HUGE year for Nick Young. It looks like he will get yet another chance. If he doesn't make the leap this year, it likely won't happen for him.


Because of Nick's situation as described above , I have mixed feelings about our draft. I thought we had an excellent opportunity to upgrade our back-court by pairing Wall with another young talent to grow with and learn while Nick & Gilbert played-out their contracts. The reverse strategy of defense 1st could also work though.
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#79 » by hands11 » Thu Jul 8, 2010 3:57 am

KevinFCheng wrote:^ You would trade Wall for Wesley Johnson + future filler? Really? Really now?



This from the guy with Nick Young as his picture. :o
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Re: Predict Wiz Opening Day Roster 2010 

Post#80 » by hands11 » Thu Jul 8, 2010 4:31 am

hands11 wrote:Amazing. So many wanted players who could play defense and now that we have more, people are worried about the offense. The thing I'm more worried about is chemistry.

We may have lost three players that I liked regarding chemistry... Livingston, Singleton and Miller. Three quality hard working mature players.

PG-John Wall/Kirk Hinrich
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin/Hamady N'Diaye

So now we have to see how Wall, Gil and Dray fit together. We are turning the team over to a rookie before he even steps on the floor. I don't feel comfortable with that. And we are mixing Gil back in when the player we got plays his old position.

I'm just not sure how comfortable I am giving Wall so much of a leadership roll right away. I think it works a lot better when you bring someone like a Tony Parker into a situation where there are other vets leaders so they can grow into the role. Starting a rookie at PG is kind of a big deal.

I look at that roster and it just seems to rudderless. That squad could really use a mature hard working vet like Mike Miller to ground it. I would give up Hamady being active right now for some continuity and I would consider not starting Wall to start the season. Give the kid a chance to grow into the role and make him earn the starting position. Don't just spoon feed him. Even if it only last a month, I still like it better. Let him get his feet settled.

PG-Kirk Hinrich/John Wall
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Al Thornton/Trevor Booker - Here I want to see Miller or Howard
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Vet Center - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

I can see not signing Singleton with Booker on the team but I did like Singleton. That leaves a space for a vet center. Kirk can back up at SG when Nick isn't getting it done. I don't know that anyone is sold on Nicks maturity an focus but he is to hard to dump just yet since he is so talented.

I'm still not sure we wouldn't have been better off getting Wesley by trading down and gained an asset in the progress like cash or a pick.

PG-Kirk Hinrich/Livingston
SG-Gilbert Arenas/Nick Young
SF-Wesley/Al Thornton/Trevor Booker
PF-Andray Blatche/Yi Jianlian
C-Vet Center - JaValle McGee/Kevin Seraphin

Liv or Kirk starting. Either works. Kirk has the D, Liv with length and post game.
Kirk can back up the 2 some if Nick can't handle it
We really need to find our star SF. That is a key to success.
Dray gets most the minutes at PF while Yi is looked at and even give McGee some minutes there.
Vet center to anchor the post while Kevin fights to be the starter. McGee will end up floating as back up to C and PF eventually until he proves he can be a starting quality center. Kevin can back up at PF also.

I like this better and could easily see this as a playoff team with good chemistry.


http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archi ... and_gomes/

Well we are looking for that SF.

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